2025 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Nov 28 - 30

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Re: 2025 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Nov 28 - 30

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Let's play a game. It's called "what corner is this?". :lol:

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If you wanna time trial on a sim, this track is the best, though. Obviously, overtaking will be near impossible given how short the straights are and how quick the corners are.

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Artur Craft wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 18:09
If you wanna time trial on a sim, this track is the best, though.
Spa or Suzuka.
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Only Suzuka challenges this one. Spa is hyped and nowhere near has the same amount of very high speed corners such as this one. I get why people love it, though. The scenery on the Ardenne´s forest and the elevation change, which is indeed nice.

To put into perpective, look how devastating this track is for Pirelli´s tyres. Most F1 tracks are comprised of hairpins, chicanes, 90ºs and overall slow corners which stresses very little the rubber. Even the C2s, C1s can hardly cope here due to the amount of +5Gs turns.

I do get that a lot of the corners look indistinguishable from another ones, though. Still, for qualifying time trial, I love this track. The races will always be terrible, don´t get the apparent suprise many are expressing

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Artur Craft wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 18:24
Only Suzuka challenges this one. Spa is hyped and nowhere near has the same amount of very high speed corners such as this one. I get why people love it, though. The scenery on the Ardenne´s forest and the elevation change, which is indeed nice.

To put into perpective, look how devastating this track is for Pirelli´s tyres. Most F1 tracks are comprised of hairpins, chicanes, 90ºs and overall slow corners which stresses very little the rubber. Even the C2s, C1s can hardly cope here due to the amount of +5Gs turns.

I do get that a lot of the corners look indistinguishable from another ones, though. Still, for qualifying time trial, I love this track. The races will always be terrible, don´t get the apparent suprise many are expressing
just like they created the C6 marshmallows, they need to do a C0 or C-1 for this circuit. also remove those razer shell rocks and curbs.

what cockshow this race is.

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 18:03
venkyhere wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 17:54
This track is just like Monaco, only faster.
It isn't anything like Monaco. Monaco has features, recognizable corners, and a thrilling, high-stakes, qualifying session.
this is what happens when F1 loses all morals to oil money. notice that all 3 ME recent tracks have produced mediocre races at best and required some form of intervention to make it somewhat of a semblance of entertaining

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There is little reason to race in Qatar apart from money.

There is little reason for 24 races in a season apart from money.

There is little reason for triple headers, we you get the point.

There is little reason for sprint races, full stop.

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 18:03
venkyhere wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 17:54
This track is just like Monaco, only faster.
It isn't anything like Monaco. Monaco has features, recognizable corners, and a thrilling, high-stakes, qualifying session.
bold - just tripe. Low quality surface with bumps and a hairpin that's suitable only for pre 1980s cars, where tyres were not as grippy as today and when downforce levels were orders of magnitude lower, not to forget the small track width and wheelbase. Monaco is there on the calender for the champagne and upper-elite lifestyle projection. It has nothing to do with sport, because other than qualifying, there is no 'sport'. Just rose-tinted-spectacles in memory of a bygone era. A track like that exists, while tracks like Imola and Zandvoort are not going to be there. It's pure snobbery.

Qatar too is similarly 'quali-only' but atleast there are high speed turns which utilize capability of a modern F1 car with high downforce levels.

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cplchanb wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 18:43
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 18:03
venkyhere wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 17:54
This track is just like Monaco, only faster.
It isn't anything like Monaco. Monaco has features, recognizable corners, and a thrilling, high-stakes, qualifying session.
this is what happens when F1 loses all morals to oil money. notice that all 3 ME recent tracks have produced mediocre races at best and required some form of intervention to make it somewhat of a semblance of entertaining
I agree but there is no appetite to build new modern tracks that give good racing. It is all about profit and money.

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cplchanb wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 18:43
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 18:03
venkyhere wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 17:54
This track is just like Monaco, only faster.
It isn't anything like Monaco. Monaco has features, recognizable corners, and a thrilling, high-stakes, qualifying session.
this is what happens when F1 loses all morals to oil money. notice that all 3 ME recent tracks have produced mediocre races at best and required some form of intervention to make it somewhat of a semblance of entertaining
I agree but there is no appetite to build new modern tracks that give good racing. It is all about profit and money.

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Crazy, in Q1 VER is in P4 with +0.398s and P15 is +0.579s.

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I think Gasly is one of the most underated drivers on the grid.

Btw, I think Norris will get pole today and become champion already tomorrow