2025 McLaren F1 Team

[SilviuAgo]

Fitting tell me something. When the Safety Car was announced did our drivers had enough time to pit or did it get them by surprise?

If Max had time then also both McLarens had time. Stella said that was a suprise for them to see everybody in the pits. No --- Sherlock, was obvious what everyone will do.
And another crap said by Stella, that they thought not to upset Lando by double stack. And when Oscar passed and Max was in maybe they thought not to upset Oscar by pitting Lando.
The end we all know it. They managed to screw both drivers.

I was wondering now if Lando was P1 and World Champion with the result and they would have done same as they did this evening to Oscar....it blow's your mind this level of stupidity.

[Madhouse]

Fitting tell me something. When the Safety Car was announced did our drivers had enough time to pit or did it get them by surprise?

If Max had time then also both McLarens had time. Stella said that was a suprise for them to see everybody in the pits. No --- Sherlock, was obvious what everyone will do.
And another crap said by Stella, that they thought not to upset Lando by double stack. And when Oscar passed and Max was in maybe they thought not to upset Oscar by pitting Lando.
The end we all know it. They managed to screw both drivers.

I was wondering now if Lando was P1 and World Champion with the result and they would have done same as they did this evening to Oscar....it blow's your mind this level of stupidity.

It is obvious at this race that the team did not want to give Oscar any advantager over Lando with the pitstop because of the concerns of double stacking.

Just Bonkers.

They screwed Oscar to protect Lando in the championship, which resulted in both being screwed in the end.

[chrisc90]

Worst thing is, there was plenty of time to double stack.

Norris was 2seconds ahead of Max and he was 2 seconds behind Oscar. All Lando had to do was drop a second and they could have double stacked, and still got out ahead of Max.

Some of the McLaren and team radios/media comments were outright laughable today.

[Darth-Piekus]

Fitting tell me something. When the Safety Car was announced did our drivers had enough time to pit or did it get them by surprise?

If Max had time then also both McLarens had time. Stella said that was a suprise for them to see everybody in the pits. No --- Sherlock, was obvious what everyone will do.
And another crap said by Stella, that they thought not to upset Lando by double stack. And when Oscar passed and Max was in maybe they thought not to upset Oscar by pitting Lando.
The end we all know it. They managed to screw both drivers.

I was wondering now if Lando was P1 and World Champion with the result and they would have done same as they did this evening to Oscar....it blow's your mind this level of stupidity.

Ok. Now tell me something. Is Mclaren under some kind of agreement under the table to give the title to Max? They were okay all year but fumbled royally a huge advantage in just two races. I would forgive them for previous races but in just the last two races both drivers lost over 30 points each.

[hollus]

I don't think Antonelli's did a mistake deliberately. then what we call for the Tsunoda, Lawson, Hadjur are easy giving way for Max in other races. I can give lots of example for RB cases... Tsudona released unsafely with tyre issue in one of the race to help Max. and so on.....

please be remember that, whenever a team or drive agains RB, you are always 2:4 not 2:2..... i.e. Mclaren need to fight Rb and its sister team.....

Let see in Abudhabi Race how we are performing...... Luckily we did the strategic mistake in Qatar instead of in AbuDhabi. They will recover from it. it is not like 2010. Still they have time to recover.

At this point I've lost all respect for my team. They have giving a championship to a driver that shouldn't be able to get it. Every Mclaren driver has lost more than 60 points from mistakes of the team. It's like the whole thing is fixed from under the table.

I want Ron Dennis back. Not these novices.

Ron Dennis?

But this movie is merely a remake. We all saw the original. Ron was the director then. Kimi won.

[hollus]

I think papaya rules ruined the race today (but ruined it equally for both, success!).

But it might not have been so much of a given that EVERYONE would pit. Ocon didn’t. Stroll did, but why? And what was in it for, say, Leclerc?
70% pitters, 30% stayers, mostly gambling from the back, was also reasonable. But it didn’t happen, so it looks doubly dumb.

[dan.the]

What are the papaya rules in this context? Aren't they allowed to split strategies anymore? Any split strategy would have been brought more points to the team than what happened (e.g., PIA in, NOR out, would have likely ended up 1st and 3rd).

And in line with @hollus: if not everyone had pitted, do you think that PIA would have won? Also if PIA had pitted, would have VER stayed out?

[Badger]

Ron and the team were merely scapegoats for the drivers, not much has changed on that front. My god has the team delivered a fantastic car to these two guys, and their reward has been to watch them battle over who is better at squandering it.

[Ben1980]

Ron and the team were merely scapegoats for the drivers, clearly not much has changed on that front. My god has the team delivered a fantastic car to these two guys, and their reward has been to watch them battle over who is better at squandering it.

To be fair, the titles over if the team doesn't get disqualified. That's not on the drivers. Heck its over quicker if Landos car doesn't break in Netherlands, thats also not on him.

I think, they've mainly got as much as they can, just its all spread between 2 drivers. But, some instances haven't been their fault.

[Darth-Piekus]

Ron and the team were merely scapegoats for the drivers, not much has changed on that front. My god has the team delivered a fantastic car to these two guys, and their reward has been to watch them battle over who is better at squandering it.

The drivers have given a very good performance all year but have lost over 60 points each from situations out of their control and all of these situations was the team screwing them. You can't blame Oscar or Lando for Mclaren's stupidity. In the final two races the team costed them over 30 points each.

[mvfad]

I think they simply forgot that when the pit stop is made under the Safety Car, there's a gain of ~20 seconds over those who stop under green flag conditions.
They must have considered the pit stop under the Safety Car as if it were a normal pit stop.
A huge mistake.

[f1isgood]

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It wasn't as if the Mclarens were that much faster in race pace, maybe Piastri by 3 tenths and Norris by 1/2 tenth or so. I think the team expected this to be 6-7 tenths.

Are they insane? Red Bull is probably the fastest car overall since Monza.
Here McLaren had an advantage but nothing like 1s or something like that.

What a shittake. McLaren bottling != Red Bull being fast.

[Darth-Piekus]

Red Bull has become faster but let's not get it twisted. Mclaren as a team has costed it's drivers over 60 points each our of sheer stupidity despite having a car that could still win.

[Aesop]

https://i.ibb.co/Nnxvv4Bj/Qatar-2025-race-pace.png

It wasn't as if the Mclarens were that much faster in race pace, maybe Piastri by 3 tenths and Norris by 1/2 tenth or so. I think the team expected this to be 6-7 tenths.

Are they insane? Red Bull is probably the fastest car overall since Monza.
Here McLaren had an advantage but nothing like 1s or something like that.

What a shittake. McLaren bottling != Red Bull being fast.

Yup, and McLaren probably will be the faster car in AD by a mile, so should still easily clinch the title. But the way they are operating now you almost think Verstappen is the clear favourite to win it, which frankly should be an absurd thought.

[f1isgood]

Are they insane? Red Bull is probably the fastest car overall since Monza.
Here McLaren had an advantage but nothing like 1s or something like that.

What a shittake. McLaren bottling != Red Bull being fast.

Yup, and McLaren probably will be the faster car in AD by a mile, so should still easily clinch the title. But the way they are operating now you almost think Verstappen is the clear favourite to win it, which frankly should be an absurd thought.

Yeah. It's still in McLaren's hands. Norris P3. Very clear goal. Norris good qualifying and good finish is all it takes and finishing two cars in top 3 is straightforward.