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Rikrikrik wrote:
30 Nov 2025, 21:57
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30 Nov 2025, 21:32
Some rumors rises from Marcin Budkowski, ex Alpine about Aston Martin will not be ready for the Barcelona tests due to delays with the Honda engine. He seems to have said this to ElevenSports. But I couldn't find the article; it seems he heard it in the paddock. But all teams are sttrugling suffer with them engines, just Mercedes dont.
The same guy said Newey has decided not participate the first test in Barcelona, because he believe stay with the car in the wind tunnel is more important. But honestly this is looks like a huge excuse or rumor
This i can believe. What will be run in the first test in January won't be the first official aero spec. It's much more important to keep developing the car. Those test will be useful to understand the engine and aero concept of the car in order to assess reliability and set the correct parameters for the energy recover system, etc.

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Rikrikrik wrote:
30 Nov 2025, 21:32
Some rumors rises from Marcin Budkowski, ex Alpine about Aston Martin will not be ready for the Barcelona tests due to delays with the Honda engine. He seems to have said this to ElevenSports. But I couldn't find the article; it seems he heard it in the paddock. But all teams are sttrugling suffer with them engines, just Mercedes dont.
It's not in any article. He supposedly said those things during the broadcast on Eleven Sports in Poland.

According to Bukowski himself, Aston have denied the rumors of any chance of missing the test.

Either version is possible imo. Honda were way behind other teams on recruitment and development according to their own official updates so it would not be a surprise.

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Could be why Cowel was sent to Engine deprtment, i think Newey said he will look after engines yesterday for F1 TV
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I am really surprised that you guys don't get this. Even if the PU wasn't ready, they'd show up to the january test with the 2025 year PU and disable the MGU-H or something just to test all the new software/hardware. That test is way more important that anythng else.

I don't get why you guys are so willing to believe a flat out lies? How would Marcin Budkowski even have a clue what's going on in Japan? He didn't even know what was going on at Alpine when he worked there.
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GoranF1 wrote:
01 Dec 2025, 08:53
Could be why Cowel was sent to Engine deprtment, i think Newey said he will look after engines yesterday for F1 TV

Newey said "Cowell Volunteered to help out with PU integration." That isn't the same as look after engines. He has been doing it for 6 month with lots of time spent out in Japan.

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diffuser wrote:
01 Dec 2025, 15:57
I am really surprised that you guys don't get this. Even if the PU wasn't ready, they'd show up to the january test with the 2025 year PU and disable the MGU-H or something just to test all the new software/hardware. That test is way more important that anythng else.

I don't get why you guys are so willing to believe a flat out lies? How would Marcin Budkowski even have a clue what's going on in Japan? He didn't even know what was going on at Alpine when he worked there.
The most important hardware to test in January is the engine, most of the other bits will be pushed as late as possible. Budkowski as I recall was a pretty senior figure so he is well connected, and people talk. We can't take for granted that what he says is true, but we can't dismiss it as lies either.

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I remember that in Honda's last interview, they said they would only homologate the engine in February because they wanted to work on its development as much as possible. We have no way of knowing if it's to achieve the best possible result, or if it's due to delays, or both.

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Badger wrote:
01 Dec 2025, 16:08
diffuser wrote:
01 Dec 2025, 15:57
I am really surprised that you guys don't get this. Even if the PU wasn't ready, they'd show up to the january test with the 2025 year PU and disable the MGU-H or something just to test all the new software/hardware. That test is way more important that anythng else.

I don't get why you guys are so willing to believe a flat out lies? How would Marcin Budkowski even have a clue what's going on in Japan? He didn't even know what was going on at Alpine when he worked there.
The most important hardware to test in January is the engine, most of the other bits will be pushed as late as possible. Budkowski as I recall was a pretty senior figure so he is well connected, and people talk. We can't take for granted that what he says is true, but we can't dismiss it as lies either.
People talk and only Budkowski hears.

So you think they're gonna run the 2026 PU on the 2025 Chassis for the first test ? Since the wheelbase and widths are different, it isn't like they can mix and match....

The first test is last week in January...... The 2nd test is 2 weeks later ...you're not gonna build alot in 2 weeks ... lead time on most of this stuff is 12 weeks and I'm not sure how many things at a time they can work on. March 6th is the start of the season, so 3 weeks later. There is another test in between. There is literally 5 weeks between the end of the first test and the start of the season. My money is they show up with everything for test 1, minus final aero(engine cover and wings). Those will be in prod to arrive for the first race. They'll show up at the first test with basic wings, new brakes, suspension, transmission, etc. They'll collect a ton of information and have a ton of software updates to do.

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So… after testing :(

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Jambier wrote:
01 Dec 2025, 20:38
So… after testing :(
The first test is private. Nobody's gonna show the car until it's done.

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I mean, it can be only the official / livery or car not ready before

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Jambier wrote:
01 Dec 2025, 21:39
I mean, it can be only the official / livery or car not ready before
Last year it was a digital version they showed.

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Rikrikrik wrote:
30 Nov 2025, 21:32
Some rumors rises from Marcin Budkowski, ex Alpine about Aston Martin will not be ready for the Barcelona tests due to delays with the Honda engine. He seems to have said this to ElevenSports. But I couldn't find the article; it seems he heard it in the paddock. But all teams are sttrugling suffer with them engines, just Mercedes dont.
they didnt schedule the car reveal until after the first test, and they did move cowell over to work with honda and aramco. but, i dont know how they would know for sure that they would definitely be late with the motor a full month out. and why they would be telling people around the paddock? honda have been saying from the start that they would be pushing development all the way to testing because of their late start, and its probably one reason why cowell is helping too now, but i find it hard to believe they wont show up to the first test with a PU. maybe be heavy, but theyll have something. HOPEFULLY :lol: