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Alonso:

"For me hope is more the car of the fourth race than the one in Australia"

"I'm optimistic because we have a new factory, a new wind tunnel and Adrian Newey making the car for the first time."

"If we don't do well the first time, we'll have to do well in the second."

I am somewhat concerned for next year after reading this...

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SchuMassa wrote:
07 Dec 2025, 19:04
Alonso:

"For me hope is more the car of the fourth race than the one in Australia"

"I'm optimistic because we have a new factory, a new wind tunnel and Adrian Newey making the car for the first time."

"If we don't do well the first time, we'll have to do well in the second."

I am somewhat concerned for next year after reading this...
I would read this more as Newey being famous for having the best in-season development. Alonso has experienced this time and time again as Newey's Red Bulls were far superior to his Ferraris by season's end.

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To be realistic:

- I think Newey and Honda will do good.
- BUT, it may take some more time, and not be ready for 26' early season.

I mean, next year I want to see podiums, and wins, and progress all the season.
Maybe the championship is not realistic, but more for 27'

It will be very open and change quickly with those new cars, so we need to be on the top 3 team as soon as the season open and then push hard.

If there are no wins then it will be a failed season

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Jambier wrote:
07 Dec 2025, 20:00
To be realistic:

- I think Newey and Honda will do good.
- BUT, it may take some more time, and not be ready for 26' early season.

I mean, next year I want to see podiums, and wins, and progress all the season.
Maybe the championship is not realistic, but more for 27'

It will be very open and change quickly with those new cars, so we need to be on the top 3 team as soon as the season open and then push hard.

If there are no wins then it will be a failed season
I agree with the first paragraph but I am not sure we'll see podiums next year. I would only consider it a failed season if we don’t improve from this year. Also, we'll fall behind on the PU reliability perspective in 2027 simply cause Honda supplies only 1 team.

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Decent race for Stroll, P15 to P9 (p10).

I predict that Stroll is gonna get his sh1t together somewhat compared to these last couple of seasons in 2026.

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I see several issues that need to be resolved before considering AM a title contender: their pit work and lack of brilliant race strategies are fundamental problems that must be addressed.

Furthermore, as already mentioned regarding Honda, they will only have one team to draw conclusions from. And, apparently, the next gearbox will be from AM, which could be another source of problems or a blessing.

On the other hand, I also see important factors: AM has managed to establish impressive technical facilities; Newey's presence; Honda's involvement as an engine supplier; and the fact that financial problems don't seem likely to affect the team. In short: Fernando hasn't had this many resources at his disposal for a long time.

The challenge will be to improve the team's performance and avoid mistakes in car development. It seems we won't be bored, but success shouldn't be instantaneous either. Unless a miracle happens and everything falls perfectly into place from the start.

With the regulation changes, I imagine all the teams will experience similar setbacks. It's about being the smartest in the class and evolving quickly and well.

Oh, by the way: you guys are a great band and I have a blast with you. Thanks a lot.
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The fact is, if Aston wants fight to the championship, they will improve when they are in that position? do you understand? they will be forced to do better. I think a few people is waiting to a P1 contender, but, everyone just want a DECENT car for Alonso, tis guy has a incridible resilience over the year and he deserve a can for fight something, even not the championship, maybe just a single victory. Its so sad 2026 is probably the last dance for Alonso, i really would like to see he is staying for 2027 at least.

SchuMassa
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Adam Cooper: "Melbourne is going to be your 25th anniversary, which will be an amazing achievement. Have you thought about that at all yet, because it's going to be pretty special?"
Fernando Alonso: "Not yet. I think Abu Dhabi next year maybe it's more special..."

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SchuMassa wrote:
07 Dec 2025, 19:04
Alonso:

"For me hope is more the car of the fourth race than the one in Australia"

"I'm optimistic because we have a new factory, a new wind tunnel and Adrian Newey making the car for the first time."

"If we don't do well the first time, we'll have to do well in the second."

I am somewhat concerned for next year after reading this...
He's just being practical. The Newey Aston era is only just beginning and of course there will likely be growing pains. Newey didn't design a title winning car in his first year(as lead designer) at Red Bull either.

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It was the last race for a Renault engine
With an awful result
And no one carrying

What a disaster

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Jambier wrote:
07 Dec 2025, 23:54
It was the last race for a Renault engine
With an awful result
And no one carrying

What a disaster
Indeed a sad end to Renault's F1 engine legacy. I won be surprise, Lawrence & consortium buyout Alpine.

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Team is on upward trajectory in last few races; in terms of Quali pace & understanding of car set-up.
Friday to Saturday set-up changes have brought performance. I am hoping , it's a sign of improvement in 'Simulation correlation'.

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NAPI10 wrote:
08 Dec 2025, 02:23
Jambier wrote:
07 Dec 2025, 23:54
It was the last race for a Renault engine
With an awful result
And no one carrying

What a disaster
Indeed a sad end to Renault's F1 engine legacy. I won be surprise, Lawrence & consortium buyout Alpine.
I don't know. F1 team are at a premium right now. Out right Alpine team will cost over $1Billion. If you want build a consortium to grab controlling interest ...that would be cheaper. You could partner with Ryan Reynolds who leads a team that already own 24% of Alpine. Horner wants in...maybe...Ryan, Horner and Stroll. Horner manages day to day, Stroll the finacials.

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diffuser wrote:
08 Dec 2025, 03:26
NAPI10 wrote:
08 Dec 2025, 02:23
Jambier wrote:
07 Dec 2025, 23:54
It was the last race for a Renault engine
With an awful result
And no one carrying

What a disaster
Indeed a sad end to Renault's F1 engine legacy. I won be surprise, Lawrence & consortium buyout Alpine.
I don't know. F1 team are at a premium right now. Out right Alpine team will cost over $1Billion. If you want build a consortium to grab controlling interest ...that would be cheaper. You could partner with Ryan Reynolds who leads a team that already own 24% of Alpine. Horner wants in...maybe...Ryan, Horner and Stroll. Horner manages day to day, Stroll the finacials.
Nightmare blunt rotation

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LookingGlass wrote:
08 Dec 2025, 16:11
diffuser wrote:
08 Dec 2025, 03:26
NAPI10 wrote:
08 Dec 2025, 02:23


Indeed a sad end to Renault's F1 engine legacy. I won be surprise, Lawrence & consortium buyout Alpine.
I don't know. F1 team are at a premium right now. Out right Alpine team will cost over $1Billion. If you want build a consortium to grab controlling interest ...that would be cheaper. You could partner with Ryan Reynolds who leads a team that already own 24% of Alpine. Horner wants in...maybe...Ryan, Horner and Stroll. Horner manages day to day, Stroll the finacials.
Nightmare blunt rotation
Really all Stroll wants is a 2nd team to run a Honda PU.