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I have reasons to believe that the key people at RBR who made the decision to develop own PU are no longer at RBR.Bill wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025, 07:59Redbull powerunit program maybe expensive but Redbull is not doing it alone they have a major car company Ford, so the financial burden is shared. Redbull can do a roadcar in the future and put a racecar engine in the car like honda do.f1 is now a profitable business so teams no longer have to fork there own money to sustain the operation.
After Christian Horner, Helmut Marko is also away from Red Bull: why that doesn't affect future Max Verstappen
ABU DHABI - Top Advisor Dr. Helmut Marko and Red Bull Racing are finally spliting up after this month. For the outside guard, that may sound like a big surprise, but the farewell of the now 82-year-old Austrian has been signing off behind the scenes for a while.
Erik van Haren
After the last race in Abu Dhabi, Marko hinted that he might not be employed by Red Bull in 2026, despite a still-continuing contract. On Monday, the knot was finally cut in the Emirates. Marko had an already planned conversation with, among others, Red Bulls sports boss Oliver Mintzlaff, who has taken control of the Austrian/English racing team of Max Verstappen.
Fired is a bit of a strong word in that context. Both reached the conclusion to part ways.Wouter wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025, 11:51According to Erik van Haren is Helmut Marko fired by Mintzlaff who is now in charge of both RB teams!
It is behind a paywall but here you can read the whole article:
https://archive.is/5zewn
.After Christian Horner, Helmut Marko is also away from Red Bull: why that doesn't affect future Max Verstappen
ABU DHABI - Top Advisor Dr. Helmut Marko and Red Bull Racing are finally spliting up after this month. For the outside guard, that may sound like a big surprise, but the farewell of the now 82-year-old Austrian has been signing off behind the scenes for a while.
Erik van Haren
After the last race in Abu Dhabi, Marko hinted that he might not be employed by Red Bull in 2026, despite a still-continuing contract. On Monday, the knot was finally cut in the Emirates. Marko had an already planned conversation with, among others, Red Bulls sports boss Oliver Mintzlaff, who has taken control of the Austrian/English racing team of Max Verstappen.
Sorry, but this quote is simply wrong. There is no "fired".
It is simply wrong. In such a state it is totally normal to part ways like this. Contract still lives on and the man gets paid. You can neither "fire" someone out of his contract nor do you want him to work till the contract finishes (because he knows everything).
Yes. I was always surprised, that he stayed. I would spend time at my mansion and go to races as a VIP when I like to go, enjoy the city...not like him 82 and standing every second week somewhere on this earth from Wed till Sun at the track...
Well he was always on the "villain" side of things towards the UK press and fans. I think it is even remarkable how less of a general villain he is. I always admired his management skills, one of the best F1 ever had.
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.Dunne liet zijn contract bij McLaren inderdaad ontbinden en had een overeenkomst getekend met Marko, maar de Oostenrijker werd teruggefloten door de Red Bull-top. Die wist nergens van af en zag het niet zitten in Dunne.
Revolutie bij Red Bull: ruim drie maanden na sensationeel ontslag teambaas Christian Horner is er veel veranderd bij team van Max Verstappen
Ook de uitspraken van Marko over Kimi Antonelli, na de Grand Prix van Qatar, vielen niet in goede aarde. Maandag werd tijdens een gesprek plus daaropvolgend diner in de Emiraten definitief de conclusie getrokken dat het voor beide partijen beter is om uit elkaar te gaan.
Agreed. He has also spoken many times of his desire to race in other series.Emag wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025, 14:11The reshuffling at Red Bull over the past few years really hasn’t looked great from the outside. Ever since Mateschitz passed away, it feels like a power vacuum opened up, leading to an internal struggle with no clear winners. Somehow similar to what happened with McLaren towards the end of the Ron Dennis era. It’s hard to know what the new upper management actually wants for Red Bull Racing, but I do hope this team doesn’t slide into becoming just a flashy marketing project. Although to be fair, their recent investments do suggest they still intend to stay competitive.
As for Max, if he didn’t walk away this year, I honestly don’t see him leaving RedBull at all. He’ll probably wait to see how 2026 plays out, and after that, if he doesn't like where he stands, retirement feels like a real possibility. He’s said many times he’s not chasing records, and I believe him. Don't think Max is a bullshitter in that sense. He has a family and a young daughter at home, so it wouldn’t be surprising if he eventually decides he’d rather spend more time with them. Got nothing else to prove too, he is pretty much cemented as the goat of his era.
so, in the first 15 races he won 2 GP, (why only 2, when he is such a god-like driver?)pantherxxx wrote: ↑08 Dec 2025, 01:49He won 8 races this year, proving that even without a Newey-designed car, he can win the most races in a season. Vettel was beaten by Leclerc with the same machinery—who will do that to Verstappen? No one.
This is some headline grabbing mumbo-jumbo that chatgpt pulled up, I can tell that much.pantherxxx wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025, 18:08The Red Bull-Ford partnership is not a gamble; it's a calculated strategic maneuver built on a confluence of massive financial investment and perfect technical alignment.
Ford's return to F1 is directly linked to its future commercial success. They are competing to win, with CEO Jim Farley stating, "We will be competing to win in F1, the pinnacle for motorsport, with Red Bull Racing."
The 2026 F1 regulations—requiring a nearly 300% increase in electric power— perfectly match Ford's current R&D focus, creating a time-saving advantage. Demonstrators like the SuperVan 4.2 are essentially uncapped test mules that proved Ford could solve the thermal management crisis (the biggest hurdle for the 2026 engine) by extracting and sustaining 2,000 hp from its EV components without failure. Ford is supplying expertise in battery cell and electric motor technology, power unit control software, and analytics. This is uncapped corporate R&D being transferred directly to a cost-capped F1 project.
So in short: Ford is not just a partner of necessity for Red Bull; they are a strategic partner whose massive, uncapped investment in relevant EV technology has been perfectly timed to create a structural advantage for the 2026 F1 engine rules.
