2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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madridista wrote:
18 Dec 2025, 11:26
diffuser wrote:
13 Dec 2025, 18:08
Listen to the part where they talk about how Honda has been #1 over the last 4 years on Battery and energy recovery ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkgYXba331I
this guy posts such slop vids, recycling the same bs over and over again. just reading off a wall of LLM text
Yeah but I thought that one piece was interesting.

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Re: 2026 Aston Martin Honda team thread

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Renaming this thread to be the 2026 Aston Martin team thread.
Do we have an official team name yet for 2026?
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hollus wrote:
21 Dec 2025, 20:04
Renaming this thread to be the 2026 Aston Martin team thread.
Do we have an official team name yet for 2026?
The official name from the FIA entry list is:
Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team


Edit: correct team name
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Re: 2026 Aramco Aston Martin Formula One Team

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And thank you very much, renaming again, starting with your post.
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It clearly says "Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team" on that FIA entry list. Aramco is not the first word.

Ref.: https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... ship-entry

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FNTC wrote:
22 Dec 2025, 15:02
It clearly says "Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team" on that FIA entry list. Aramco is not the first word.

Ref.: https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula- ... ship-entry
Oh sorry, I've messed up :D

Hollus, one more time please.

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Re: 2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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Good now? I am in my phone and the title literally does not display in the last post.
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hollus wrote:
23 Dec 2025, 17:40
Good now? I am in my phone and the title literally does not display in the last post.
Yes, perfect! Thank you

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If this whole Mercedes engine compression thing is real, Newey will have to come up with a rocket ship aerodynamically for us to have any chance next year (8 Merc powered cars), unless Honda also have something up their sleeve on the PU, either the ICE or battery. Hope the solid state rumour is real in that case.

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Trick components do not guarantee a good engine. It could provide an advantage, it could be negligible in race conditions, it could even be a liability. Of course that fact that Mercedes is one of the manufacturers making use of it is concerning, I'd feel much better if it were Audi and Red Bull instead, but we'll have to wait and see all the same.

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I agree on the general premise, the difference here is that Mercedes was completely dominant early in the hybrid era from 2014, and now they tried to lower the compression from 18:1 to 16:1 so make Mercedes completely redesign their engine, so Audi etc would have a chance. But if Mercedes have found a way to still use something close to 18:1 then that all goes away. But still others might have found other things, that are not yet talked about of course.
Also there is a possibility that this compression trick results in reliability issues for Mercedes.
I am also pretty confident that Adrian Newey could easily make some magic so that the aero overcomes a 15hp deficit, too.
I think I would still rather have Newey with a slightly weaker engine, than be Mercedes with a stronger one (if that happens).

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25 Dec 2025, 22:25
I agree on the general premise, the difference here is that Mercedes was completely dominant early in the hybrid era from 2014, and now they tried to lower the compression from 18:1 to 16:1 so make Mercedes completely redesign their engine, so Audi etc would have a chance. But if Mercedes have found a way to still use something close to 18:1 then that all goes away. But still others might have found other things, that are not yet talked about of course.
Also there is a possibility that this compression trick results in reliability issues for Mercedes.
I am also pretty confident that Adrian Newey could easily make some magic so that the aero overcomes a 15hp deficit, too.
I think I would still rather have Newey with a slightly weaker engine, than be Mercedes with a stronger one (if that happens).
Newey's Red Bull still won three races in 2014 with a weaker engine. It is possible, but it is not just the three tenths in power that Mercedes will have, the higher compression ratio will allow the engine to run more efficiently, therefore the car could hold less fuel and save even more in lap time.

I will be going into next season with the same mindset that I had going into this season.

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Speaking of rumours and fuel, weren't there positive whispers about Aramco's e-fuel and negative whispers about Petronas' 2026 fuel earlier? I guess we'll see what whispers were worthwhile in the new year. It could be that the rumours that the team won't be ready for the private test are true and then ... idk sell the team at that point. But there's a possibility however slim that AM will show up with the best fuel and solid state batteries, and that Mercedes HPP is making desperate grasps in engine architecture to make up for a fuel deficit. "Anything can happen, and it usually does" -or whatever the line is

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FNTC wrote:
25 Dec 2025, 21:40
If this whole Mercedes engine compression thing is real, Newey will have to come up with a rocket ship aerodynamically for us to have any chance next year (8 Merc powered cars), unless Honda also have something up their sleeve on the PU, either the ICE or battery. Hope the solid state rumour is real in that case.
So apparently this hit the paddock in the middle of the season. Might explain why Cowell had to get so heavily involved with Honda.

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