2026 F1 Cars - General Thread

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BorisTheBlade wrote:
22 Nov 2025, 18:02
maybe I am a bit late to the party, but the discussions in this topic regarding Adrian Newey's statement and how the whole Drivetrain might be handled led me to some thoughts and conclusions,
Where and what did he say?

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Oh it was a hot topic in this thread more than a year ago - see below.
TeamKoolGreen wrote:
16 Apr 2024, 09:15
'^ It looks like a direct quote to me.

Here it is again

This could still cause some strange situations at some circuits. "It's certainly going to be a strange formula in as much as the engines will be working flat-chat as generators just about the whole time," Newey told Autosport. "So, the prospect of the engine working hard in the middle of Loews hairpin is going to take some getting used to."

And he specifically says "middle of the Loews hairpin." Newey has seen the tests and seen the simulations. None of us have. He is giving us a very big inside scoop on what he seen in those tests and sims. And that is the ICE being flat out in the middle of the Loews hairpin.

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BorisTheBlade wrote:
26 Nov 2025, 20:53
Oh it was a hot topic in this thread more than a year ago - see below.
So long ago I forgot. :)
I definitely read that news article.

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https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/f1-p ... r-problem/



Manually activate X and Z modes ahead of all the straights and corners, manually deploy energy, manually adjust brake bias, engine settings, diff settings. What could go wrong?
One element of the rules revolution that is coming for 2026 is that F1's new cars will feature full active aero.

In cornering mode, the wings will have an increased angle of attack for maximum downforce, while in straightline mode they will be backed off to minimise drag.

Drivers will manually activate the different modes in specific activation zones that will be laid down by the FIA as suitable for drivers to shed downforce.

The regulations have opened the door for straightline mode to be deactivated in certain conditions - such as when the safety car is out, or if the race director feels there are safety concerns.

One such situation is if a race is hit by rain, as it would be deemed too dangerous for cars to be running at high speed with minimal downforce in the wet.

But while this may seem like a logical thing to do, as teams have dug into the rules they discovered a potential unintended consequence from this.

As well as increased drag from running in higher-downforce configuration having implications for energy deployment and fuel use, a much bigger stumbling block cropped up.

This was that if cars were running down straights with wings in high downforce mode, then the forces acting on the car would push it more into the ground - and risk its plank wearing away. McLaren's double disqualification in Las Vegas weekend shows the degree to which plank wear remains a constant pressure.

As Williams team principal James Vowles told The Race earlier this year about the straightline mode use in the wet: "It doesn't sound really exciting or important, but we're going to be running the cars low, and if you disable straightline mode and it dries up, you're just basically going to wear through the front of the car.

"So there's some details like that we've got to get into and fix, but we will do it."

Discussions with teams have taken place at both Technical Advisory and Sporting Advisory Committee level to try to find the best solution.

FIA single seater director Nikolas Tombazis said: "There's been a lot of discussion on this topic with a few different options.

"There were some final discussions on this topic at the technical meeting a few weeks ago, and there are a few different ways to solve it."
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Picked up this gem too from the same article :lol: Just imagine the carnage.
One other idea that is being worked on is for drivers to only be able to switch modes for the front wing element in the wet - which will help avoid the front of the car being pushed into the ground.

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Badger wrote:
27 Nov 2025, 18:08
Picked up this gem too from the same article :lol: Just imagine the carnage.
One other idea that is being worked on is for drivers to only be able to switch modes for the front wing element in the wet - which will help avoid the front of the car being pushed into the ground.
I can't personally believe that anyone in a technical position considered that seriously. I can't do it.

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It's unbelievable that F1 have relied on something as pathetic as a wearing plank for decades now...

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Gemini on crash tests:
As of mid-December 2025, Ferrari is the confirmed team that has successfully passed the mandatory FIA crash tests for their 2026 F1 car (Project 678) on the first attempt, a major step towards homologation, with other teams also progressing, though details are less public. Cadillac has also passed but with a heavier chassis, while most teams keep progress quiet, focusing on new power unit regulations.

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Biggest regs change ever? Engine and aero simultaneously. Some guesses at what we’ll see in a couple of months:

Front pushrod. The front wing pressure distribution has changed. The largest part of the wing is now outboard, the opposite of the 2022 formula which had the largest part of the wing inboard. This will alter the flow fields between the front wheels.

Rear pushrod. The diffuser is not as tall but the onset of the diffuser remains in approximately the same location as the 2022 formula. It is perhaps better to not risk impinging upon it with pullrod mechanisms, although the higher CoG of a pushrod assembly could conflict with the use of rake.

Curved radiators. The previous regulations for many years demanded planar forms. Now they do not. I think we’ll see some clever things and hopefully some wild interpretations that coincide with the new louver allowances. First speculation about this posted online that I know of: https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewt ... 7#p1311337

Mid-body radiator efflux. To take advantage of the larger louver allowance, and they may not even look like louvers. Hopefully someone tries to route all efflux through large openings in this area. Illustration: https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewt ... 1#p1293691

Bizarre diffuser fences. The fences (the two fins or strakes that will be allowed to be fitted inside the diffuser) must fit within a tall, straight, narrow box, thus the main ways to innovate with them is with the side profile shape and with legality-conforming surface undulations not unlike what we saw ’22-type edge wings. Filling the legality box with something simple would provide something that is not oriented with local flow. Illustrations: https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewt ... 0#p1300140

Volumetrically the smallest engine covers ever. ~30% less fuel being burned means smaller radiators. Note, in terms of nomenclature, the engine cover shrouds the radiators, not the sidepods, and this has been the case for at least a decade. I think we’ll see new engine cover and sidepod concepts that might look normally sized, or even large, but in terms of cross-sectional area, they should still be the smallest ever, and if someone combines this with a more typical radish-shaped engine cover, it will probably look extremely compact.

Horizontal floor board slats. First known suggestion online: https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewt ... 1#p1293691

Rake. The question is how much. The rear wing allowance seems small relative to the size of the front wing, and there are no beam wings. Use rake to increase overall downforce that is necessarily rearward of the front axle. That said--does rake conflict with using higher center of gravity pushrods at the rear...

Items not yet given much attention online:

Diffuser winglet. It seems like that there will be a common, FIA supplied 3-element wing that will attach to the side of the diffuser. It’s unclear to me what it is called. It looks like previous years’ rear brake duct wings, just attached to the diffuser. It is barely visible on early FIA renderings and the Audi livery renderings. The “Diffuser Winglet” allowance seems to be a single element flap that the teams can add to the top of the common 3-element wing. It must only be single-section, but obviously in official renderings there’s a four element wing in that area, so this is how I’ve resolved the discrepancy for myself.

Floor stays. A total of five stays are permitted per side, four tension stays (one on the foot, three on the floor proper) and one tension/compression stay stabilizing the floor board. Will anyone go that far? Or need to. If a flat floor is made as thin as possible, you’d need stays to support it.

Specific front and rear wing solutions. These specific regs are very complicated, obscurely worded, and span several pages. Thus, no takers online so far other than some basic interpretations.
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Is there any updates on the crash test for the teams, as we know following crash test done

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what about other teams..

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collindsilva wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 09:25
Is there any updates on the crash test for the teams, as we know following crash test done

Ferrari
McL

what about other teams..
There have been reports that Aston hasn't done it yet.

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lio007 wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 10:15
collindsilva wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 09:25
Is there any updates on the crash test for the teams, as we know following crash test done

Ferrari
McL

what about other teams..
There have been reports that Aston hasn't done it yet.
Where is the info available, does FIA provide reports on the crash test or it is reported by other channels.

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collindsilva wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 11:16
lio007 wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 10:15
collindsilva wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 09:25
Is there any updates on the crash test for the teams, as we know following crash test done

Ferrari
McL

what about other teams..
There have been reports that Aston hasn't done it yet.
Where is the info available, does FIA provide reports on the crash test or it is reported by other channels.
Somebody on Twitter posted it yesterday:


And no, the FIA don't reveal this kind of sensitive information whether teams have passed the crash test or not.

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lio007 wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 15:37
collindsilva wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 11:16
lio007 wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 10:15

There have been reports that Aston hasn't done it yet.
Where is the info available, does FIA provide reports on the crash test or it is reported by other channels.
Somebody on Twitter posted it yesterday:
https://twitter.com/i/status/2005700609174036597

And no, the FIA don't reveal this kind of sensitive information whether teams have passed the crash test or not.
Wouldn't consider it as sensitive information, since the crash test are mandatory requirement from FIA.

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collindsilva wrote:
02 Jan 2026, 11:33
lio007 wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 15:37
collindsilva wrote:
31 Dec 2025, 11:16


Where is the info available, does FIA provide reports on the crash test or it is reported by other channels.
Somebody on Twitter posted it yesterday:
https://twitter.com/i/status/2005700609174036597

And no, the FIA don't reveal this kind of sensitive information whether teams have passed the crash test or not.
Wouldn't consider it as sensitive information, since the crash test are mandatory requirement from FIA.
It's obviously about the WHEN and not the WHAT. Otherwise what would be the point of this information?

It would be like asking if they will have a working PU in the car this season. Obviously the answer is yes, but the information at what point in time it had been completed is the interesting and sensitive part as it gives you clues about their progress.