2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

[FittingMechanics]

Plus teams do test, in their simulators.

[sucof]

Plus, these are not road cars for you or me. They do not have to be tested.
Testing them does not do any good for the spectacle of the sport, or to the competition, or its fairness.
We do not benefit from slightly faster cars, or slightly more durable cars.

On the contrary, the viewers benefit from less testing, as it makes the races a bit more unpredictable.

[Sbrillo88]

Plus teams do test, in their simulators.

Simulators cost money as well. Plus, if you lose the correlation between the track and the simulator, you’ll end up spending money on updates that never work—or don’t work as expected—and possibly spending even more to patch those upgrades. With a test track, I think a team would be more efficient in development, and this would help cut costs.

[sucof]

Plus teams do test, in their simulators.

Simulators cost money as well. Plus, if you lose the correlation between the track and the simulator, you’ll end up spending money on updates that never work—or don’t work as expected—and possibly spending even more to patch those upgrades. With a test track, I think a team would be more efficient in development, and this would help cut costs.

Having a good correlation is an essential part of this sport.
It is one of the most important differentiator between good teams and less good ones.
It is the challenge. Taking out the challenge of a sport makes it less.

[Emag]

It's hard to make out exactly what has gone wrong with Ferrari these last couple of years. Is it bad correlation that gets eventually overcome with good technical execution, or is it good correlation that is not being utilized properly with bad technical execution?

The 2022 car was honestly very impressive. In terms of pure pace, it was probably the best car until it got crippled. But then once the TD came along, they were unable to salvage it. In 2023, evidently they went into a completely wrong direction. A car that was trying to be multiple things at once. A sort of hybrid looking car between what Ferrari had in 2022 and what the grid was converging towards in 2023 already. Fair to say it didn't work. The car seemingly got the worst of both worlds instead of the best.

Then they take a step back from their own concept and try to follow where the grid is going with a more "conventional" 2024 design. The season starts out nicely, but the Imola and eventually the Barcelona upgrade package reintroduced bouncing which took them too long to fix. Nevertheless, they did fix it though and showed glimpses of competitiveness in the later stages of 2024. Even with the development issues in the middle, they were quite consistent throughout and lost out in the WCC battle by a very slim margin in the end. But because they got on top of the issues, people had good reason to believe they would probably start 2025 in a similar manner to how they started 2022.

Yet they ruin that momentum completely and by some oversight, the 2025 car has a crippling weakness that doesn't really allow it to operate optimally without getting disqualified for plank wear. Took so long to try and patch it, that the rest of the competitors eventually moved on and it was too late to fight for anything meaningful. The fact that they didn't really fix the car like they managed to do in 2024 just adds salt to injury, even though they dedicated quite a lot of resources to that suspension upgrade.

They have had these ups and downs where its honestly difficult to understand why it went so wrong at times. Every time they dug a ditch for themselves, they managed to get out eventually. Was that due to improved correlation? Or was it just some brute force type of approach that sometimes worked and sometimes it didn't?

In any case, Ferrari has proved one thing in the last decade or so. They're aggressive in the way they develop their cars and generally they're quite creative in their interpretation of the rules. I personally expect a "nice looking" car by Ferrari for 2026, but I am honestly reserved in terms of pace expectations, because their approach has proved to be quite hit or miss.

[ali623]

Honestly the way things have gone with Ferrari, I fully expect them to come out with a package this year that trumps RB/McLaren/Mercedes, only for someone like Aston Martin to come out with something even better yet and beat them to the championship.

I feel like they're always generally 'in the mix' but never the best (for a full season anyway). I mean McLaren have literally gone from the top of the grid, to rock bottom and back to the top in the time since Ferrari last won something.

[Xyz22]

It's hard to make out exactly what has gone wrong with Ferrari these last couple of years. Is it bad correlation that gets eventually overcome with good technical execution, or is it good correlation that is not being utilized properly with bad technical execution?

The 2022 car was honestly very impressive. In terms of pure pace, it was probably the best car until it got crippled. But then once the TD came along, they were unable to salvage it. In 2023, evidently they went into a completely wrong direction. A car that was trying to be multiple things at once. A sort of hybrid looking car between what Ferrari had in 2022 and what the grid was converging towards in 2023 already. Fair to say it didn't work. The car seemingly got the worst of both worlds instead of the best.

Then they take a step back from their own concept and try to follow where the grid is going with a more "conventional" 2024 design. The season starts out nicely, but the Imola and eventually the Barcelona upgrade package reintroduced bouncing which took them too long to fix. Nevertheless, they did fix it though and showed glimpses of competitiveness in the later stages of 2024. Even with the development issues in the middle, they were quite consistent throughout and lost out in the WCC battle by a very slim margin in the end. But because they got on top of the issues, people had good reason to believe they would probably start 2025 in a similar manner to how they started 2022.

Yet they ruin that momentum completely and by some oversight, the 2025 car has a crippling weakness that doesn't really allow it to operate optimally without getting disqualified for plank wear. Took so long to try and patch it, that the rest of the competitors eventually moved on and it was too late to fight for anything meaningful. The fact that they didn't really fix the car like they managed to do in 2024 just adds salt to injury, even though they dedicated quite a lot of resources to that suspension upgrade.

They have had these ups and downs where its honestly difficult to understand why it went so wrong at times. Every time they dug a ditch for themselves, they managed to get out eventually. Was that due to improved correlation? Or was it just some brute force type of approach that sometimes worked and sometimes it didn't?

In any case, Ferrari has proved one thing in the last decade or so. They're aggressive in the way they develop their cars and generally they're quite creative in their interpretation of the rules. I personally expect a "nice looking" car by Ferrari for 2026, but I am honestly reserved in terms of pace expectations, because their approach has proved to be quite hit or miss.

Not really. The technical leadership is not good enough, that's pretty much it.

[dren]

Kimi will forever be the last Ferrari champion.

[deadhead]

Honestly the way things have gone with Ferrari, I fully expect them to come out with a package this year that trumps RB/McLaren/Mercedes, only for someone like Aston Martin to come out with something even better yet and beat them to the championship.

I feel like they're always generally 'in the mix' but never the best (for a full season anyway). I mean McLaren have literally gone from the top of the grid, to rock bottom and back to the top in the time since Ferrari last won something.

No way they come out with a better package than McLaren

[catent]

Honestly the way things have gone with Ferrari, I fully expect them to come out with a package this year that trumps RB/McLaren/Mercedes, only for someone like Aston Martin to come out with something even better yet and beat them to the championship.

I feel like they're always generally 'in the mix' but never the best (for a full season anyway). I mean McLaren have literally gone from the top of the grid, to rock bottom and back to the top in the time since Ferrari last won something.

No way they come out with a better package than McLaren

The same was said of McLaren in 2022/2023 relative to the other top teams. Things looked very bleak for them, but changed quickly.

The capital ‘T’ truth is that no one has a clue what the pecking order/competitive balance will be until cars hit the track in Melbourne.

[Timtim99]

Another disappointing year already in play? I cannot bring myself to support another team.
The --- show at Ferrari has made me lose interest in F1, so I have cancelled my Sky
Sports subscription.. Started supporting Ferrari when Michael Schumacher joined Ferrari in 1996

[ali623]

Honestly the way things have gone with Ferrari, I fully expect them to come out with a package this year that trumps RB/McLaren/Mercedes, only for someone like Aston Martin to come out with something even better yet and beat them to the championship.

I feel like they're always generally 'in the mix' but never the best (for a full season anyway). I mean McLaren have literally gone from the top of the grid, to rock bottom and back to the top in the time since Ferrari last won something.

No way they come out with a better package than McLaren

Why not? This McLaren technical team hasn't proven anything yet under new regulations. Even in their first few successful years in the previous regs (2023/24) they started on the backfoot initially.

Ferrari, despite their many issues, have actually made a good start under the last 2 (major) regulation cycles (2022 and 2017).

[sucof]

Another disappointing year already in play? I cannot bring myself to support another team.
The --- show at Ferrari has made me lose interest in F1, so I have cancelled my Sky
Sports subscription.. Started supporting Ferrari when Michael Schumacher joined Ferrari in 1996

Strange. Nothing happened yet, zero info about the cars, they have not even been launched, etc, yet people already making conclusions...
I'll never understand that.
Also, you either a fan of a team or not. If someone becomes a fan because that team is winning, then there are things to think about, imho.

[Fakepivot]

Another disappointing year already in play? I cannot bring myself to support another team.
The --- show at Ferrari has made me lose interest in F1, so I have cancelled my Sky
Sports subscription.. Started supporting Ferrari when Michael Schumacher joined Ferrari in 1996

don't bother with social media, i went offline from social media in regards to the sports, its been so much better.. you should try it.. this should apply weather they win or not... just turn it off unfollow any and all sport related accounts.. block if you have to.. i watched 2nd half last year completely offline it was soo much better, i intend to do the same..

[sucof]

Another disappointing year already in play? I cannot bring myself to support another team.
The --- show at Ferrari has made me lose interest in F1, so I have cancelled my Sky
Sports subscription.. Started supporting Ferrari when Michael Schumacher joined Ferrari in 1996

don't bother with social media, i went offline from social media in regards to the sports, its been so much better.. you should try it.. this should apply weather they win or not... just turn it off unfollow any and all sport related accounts.. block if you have to.. i watched 2nd half last year completely offline it was soo much better, i intend to do the same..