Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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AR3-GP wrote:
15 Jan 2026, 18:41
vorticism wrote:
15 Jan 2026, 18:26
The rules are set up to accommodate placement of the MGUK & its transmission in a variety of locations with no weight penalty for more distal locating. In front of the ICE or alongside the ICE (previous precedent). diffuser pointed out the transmission attachment point which encourages forward placements. Inside the vee would be elegant, if just for symmetry & structural efficiency--replacing the MGUH.
Inside the V would increase the center of mass height quite a bit. Either in front of engine or inside the transmission (somehow) seems ideal.

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Yes, hence my earlier post. PU COG is mandated so the COG of the assembled mass is the is the goal not necessarily the locations of individual components considered independently. Vee or forward centerline locating, whether atop or splitting the ES, provides symmetry, which frees up space on both sides of the ICE beneath the exhaust ports for airflow or header routing. Rearward MGUK locating (if the legality box allows for it) would require a long driveshaft back to the front of the engine.
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vorticism wrote:
15 Jan 2026, 19:05
AR3-GP wrote:
15 Jan 2026, 18:41
vorticism wrote:
15 Jan 2026, 18:26
The rules are set up to accommodate placement of the MGUK & its transmission in a variety of locations with no weight penalty for more distal locating. In front of the ICE or alongside the ICE (previous precedent). diffuser pointed out the transmission attachment point which encourages forward placements. Inside the vee would be elegant, if just for symmetry & structural efficiency--replacing the MGUH.
Inside the V would increase the center of mass height quite a bit. Either in front of engine or inside the transmission (somehow) seems ideal.

https://i.postimg.cc/GpRZcD2g/image.png
Yes, hence my earlier post. PU COG is mandated so the COG of the assembled mass is the is the goal not necessarily the locations of individual components considered independently. Vee or forward centerline locating, whether atop or splitting the ES, provides symmetry, which frees up space on both sides of the ICE beneath the exhaust ports for airflow or header routing. Rearward MGUK locating (if the legality box allows for it) would require a long driveshaft back to the front of the engine.
You only have 100MM of space there before it start protrude out the front, not sure that's enough space for the MGU-K. That's gonna be prime Fuel cell real estate there.

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diffuser wrote:
15 Jan 2026, 20:01
vorticism wrote:
15 Jan 2026, 19:05
AR3-GP wrote:
15 Jan 2026, 18:41


Inside the V would increase the center of mass height quite a bit. Either in front of engine or inside the transmission (somehow) seems ideal.

https://i.postimg.cc/GpRZcD2g/image.png
Yes, hence my earlier post. PU COG is mandated so the COG of the assembled mass is the is the goal not necessarily the locations of individual components considered independently. Vee or forward centerline locating, whether atop or splitting the ES, provides symmetry, which frees up space on both sides of the ICE beneath the exhaust ports for airflow or header routing. Rearward MGUK locating (if the legality box allows for it) would require a long driveshaft back to the front of the engine.
You only have 100MM of space there before it start protrude out the front, not sure that's enough space for the MGU-K. That's gonna be prime Fuel cell real estate there.
No, this is only a reference to the mechanical connection area. They want to continue using the nose of the crankshaft as the connection point, driven alongside the cam gears, hence it must be within the first 100mm of the ICE volume. There's no rules about where specifically within the PU volume that the MGUK needs to be placed (that I've seen). This why C18.5.7 exists--to provide the freedom of placement for packaging reasons with limited mass penalty. Hugging it right next to the ICE vs hanging it from the front of the ICE vs attaching it to the monocoque, etc., are all accommodated as teams/builder may find certain configurations more advantageous than others.
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This shows where battery is located relative to engine. Based on Honda's teaser photos, it will be a side mount MGU-K

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