2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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So they had no shakedown before, right? Pretty good start if that´s the case.

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Valeo wrote:
26 Jan 2026, 14:26
So they had no shakedown before, right? Pretty good start if that´s the case.
Yeah, exactly .. would suck to lose (half) a day with issues, but so far so good for baselining.
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Emag wrote:
26 Jan 2026, 14:12
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26 Jan 2026, 14:10
Hadjar all day. Gonna ignore the "fastest lap by far" bit

He is not incorrect in his statement though. It is the fastest lap by far (almost 2 seconds to Antonelli).
if indeed it's true, and the car didn't suffer an 'off' or breakdown anywhere on a track with lots of high speed turns, it's a pretty good sign for a first-time-engine manufacturer

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SoyMotor on X - TIME UPDATE (5.13 PM Local time)

1- Hadjar - 1'18''452
2- Russell - 1'18''696
3- Colapinto - 1'20''189
4- Antonelli - 1'20''700
5- Lawson - 1'21''513
6- Ocon - 1'22''920
7- Bottas - 1'24''651
8- Bortoleto - 1'25''296
9- Pérez - No Time

Pretty quick times for day 1. I'm impressed that we haven't run into any major problems yet.

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On one hand I'm a bit afraid of Red Bull going down the Merc route. I'm not implying to 'zeropods' here, whatever that means. But rather the mindset of chasing peak DF numbers from excel tables then struggling to make them work on track. They already had hints of these with the 2024/2025 troubles.

On the other hand I like the aggressive approach and also the return of the silent confidence, which is generally a good sign (for any team). The first day is also positive, lot of running with no major problems out of the box. Laptimes are irrelevent at this stage, but it still doesn't hurt to be at the front. Especially if it came naturally, without much effort.

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I honestly think Newey was soaking up way too much credit at RedBull. I don't deny his legacy and his achievement on the sport, but it's a bit farfetched to believe one individual could single-handedly be responsible for the whole design of such complex pieces of engineering modern F1 cars are. Perhaps his impact was significantly more in the late 2000s and early 2010s, but surely with the advancement of technology, that role diminished over time. He has literally admitted that he still likes to work with a pen and paper. A nice nod to his old-school engineer approach, but there's no way that's not less efficient than a younger talent utilizing modern toolsets at the peak of their capacity.

Newey is gone now and RedBull hasn't lost any of their essence when you look at the car they released for these new regulations. It's aggressive, creative and it looks every single bit like a car people would be writing "Newey designed a masterpiece again" had he remained at RedBull.

And of course I am not implying here "good riddance". Any team would be lucky to have someone like Newey working for them. But I am certain RedBull will do just fine without him.
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Paa wrote:
26 Jan 2026, 18:51
On one hand I'm a bit afraid of Red Bull going down the Merc route. I'm not implying to 'zeropods' here, whatever that means. But rather the mindset of chasing peak DF numbers from excel tables then struggling to make them work on track. They already had hints of these with the 2024/2025 troubles.

On the other hand I like the aggressive approach and also the return of the silent confidence, which is generally a good sign (for any team). The first day is also positive, lot of running with no major problems out of the box. Laptimes are irrelevent at this stage, but it still doesn't hurt to be at the front. Especially if it came naturally, without much effort.
Until GE 2022 cars teams were pursuing tighter packaging every year in the area of the sidepods. So I am not surprised.

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RB22 from 1:32 onwards.

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Emag wrote:
26 Jan 2026, 19:04
I honestly think Newey was soaking up way too much credit at RedBull. I don't deny his legacy and his achievement on the sport, but it's a bit farfetched to believe one individual could single-handedly be responsible for the whole design of such complex pieces of engineering modern F1 cars are. Perhaps his impact was significantly more in the late 2000s and early 2010s, but surely with the advancement of technology, that role diminished over time. He has literally admitted that he still likes to work with a pen and paper. A nice nod to his old-school engineer approach, but there's no way that's not less efficient than a younger talent utilizing modern toolsets at the peak of their capacity.

Newey is gone now and RedBull hasn't lost any of their essence when you look at the car they released for these new regulations. It's aggressive, creative and it looks every single bit like a car people would be writing "Newey designed a masterpiece again" had he remained at RedBull.

And of course I am not implying here "good riddance". Any team would be lucky to have someone like Newey working for them. But I am certain RedBull will do just fine without him.
It is really difficult to pinpoint one individual's contribution for such a big and complex project/organization. Newey did not design the whole car, he admittedly had an advisory role. The actual designing and evaluating is done by the unnamed 'minions'.
High-profile leaders like Adrian are just setting the priorities and focus areas or giving general development directions. How important that is? Sometimes it could be vital, other times can have close to zero effect. Or it even can have negative effect at times. Even Newey had some wrong ideas in his long career.
But even with that I still think it is useful to have an input from someone like him. Maybe it doesn't add much for 1-2 years, but then he helps to set the team on a route which gives them success for the next 2-3 years.
I don't have actual knowledge on that, but I like to think he had a role on Red Bull being almost the only team not really affected by porpoising in the early GE era. He was also told to be really helpful on dialing up the car on track for the actual weekend. Something which Red Bull really seemed to struggle with for a while after his departure.
Point is that this will be never black and white. Red Bull being successful after Newey will not prove he was not part of previous success and vice versa.

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Really impressed so far.
Bet not many had such a first day on the bingo card for RBR.
Hope Max gets some proper running too in terms of weather and reliability.

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Valeo wrote:
26 Jan 2026, 19:58
Really impressed so far.
Bet not many had such a first day on the bingo card for RBR.
Hope Max gets some proper running too in terms of weather and reliability.
107 laps is a big number.
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Engine is not bad. Lets hope car has enough performance.
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Paa wrote:
26 Jan 2026, 19:31
I don't have actual knowledge on that, but I like to think he had a role on Red Bull being almost the only team not really affected by porpoising in the early GE era.
That's my opinion as well; with his GE experience he apparently put a lot of effort in the suspension, which at least in part resulted in no (or signicant less) porpoising. Something a lot of teams struggled with a long time.
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AR3-GP wrote:
26 Jan 2026, 20:00
Valeo wrote:
26 Jan 2026, 19:58
Really impressed so far.
Bet not many had such a first day on the bingo card for RBR.
Hope Max gets some proper running too in terms of weather and reliability.
107 laps is a big number.
Last time someone debuted an engine they did 70 laps in 4 days and were 7 seconds off the pace. Not to crap on that manufacturer, but just illustrating the seriousness and preparedness of the RBPT project. Nearly 200 laps and first in the timings (I know it's early) on day 1.

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The fact that the other new PU entry, Audi, had to stop running after 20 or so laps for "precautions", just emphasizes how good of a job RBPT has done as well.
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