2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

This forum contains threads to discuss teams themselves. Anything not technical about the cars, including restructuring, performances etc belongs here.
f1isgood
f1isgood
5
Joined: 31 Oct 2022, 19:52
Location: Continental Europe

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Paa wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 01:14
euv2 wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 20:41
https://x.com/ErikvHaren/status/2016213 ... 36066?s=20

27 laps for Verstappen and a crash from Hadjar: why a positive feeling still prevails at Red Bull in Barcelona so far.

- Verstappen still has a full day of running

- Use of Red Bull’s ‘compression trick’ is denied and updates in Melbourne
Why is it positive missing the compression trick? I think it is a negative, unless the trick would be banned, in which case it would be indeed positive.



Regarding the positive mood within the team, it can be just relief, seeing that the engine works without big major hiccups. There must have been at least some concerns about that. I don't think it is a suggestion to actual performance just yet, at this stage.
Agree. Also I think they're lying about the engine compression trick. I am not trusting van Haren as he swings to whatever a section of Red Bull wants the world to hear. They have very good reasons to say this.

Ben Hodgkinson was very very defensive about this. So imo they're doing some version of it or will do it soon enough.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

f1isgood
f1isgood
5
Joined: 31 Oct 2022, 19:52
Location: Continental Europe

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Badger wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 00:09
That's a two hour job if you have the spares. If you don't it becomes a bit harder, or impossible.

Hadjar needs to smarten up though, there's a time to push and there's a time to gather data. When you're in pre-pre-season testing with little or no spares one is more important than the other :lol:
Tin foil hat on. He saw Verstappen's times and wanted to go beat him and crashed.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

CHT
CHT
-7
Joined: 14 Apr 2008, 05:24

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Paa wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 18:39
To be fair when Honda announced their withdrawal, there was a short period of uncertainty. During that short window, there were indeed some speculations about Honda handing over the IP to Red Bull. So probably this is where all of this is coming from.
However, once things were settled it was made very clear, repeatedly, that no IP was transferred. RBPT is a completely separate project. There were some brain drain of course, but that is happening all the time anyway between teams, it is part of the game.
What I don't get is how this IP-transfer myth refused to die. As if some people were really focused on this during that short window, then somehow ignored years of repetitive clarifications.
Honda and RB official website mentioned about transferring of engine IP after 2022 season to RBPT, and this was a commercial and strategic decision where RB will take over Honda engine operation in UK, while the engine will continue to carry the Honda badge for marketing purpose. Under this agreement, they won both WCC and WDC. So RBPT has been learning how to build engine with support from Honda since 2023. At its core, 2026 is still a 1.6-litre V6 turbo hybrid ICE.

And of course, this Honda/RB agreement has expired in end of 2025, and Honda is not involve in 2026 project because Honda has switched to Aston Martin. This is common sense.

In Formula 1, Red Bull Powertrains will have the right to use Honda IP relating to the Power Unit from 2022. Whilst Honda will support Red Bull Powertrains through the assembly of power units, the provision of trackside engineering support and race operation assistance in 2022, from 2023, RBPT will take responsibility for all manufacturing and servicing of Red Bull Racing and Scuderia AlphaTauri’s engines.

https://www.redbullracing.com/int-en/re ... -beyond-f1

User avatar
Paa
6
Joined: 26 Aug 2022, 13:43

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

f1isgood wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 01:40
Badger wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 00:09
That's a two hour job if you have the spares. If you don't it becomes a bit harder, or impossible.

Hadjar needs to smarten up though, there's a time to push and there's a time to gather data. When you're in pre-pre-season testing with little or no spares one is more important than the other :lol:
Tin foil hat on. He saw Verstappen's times and wanted to go beat him and crashed.
I think this is a genuine problem for all of his teammates. They see how fast he is, so they would feel the pressure to at least keep up so they try to overperform. But being constantly at or over the edge will inevitably lead to either mistakes or worse performance over time. They try extreme setups and overall perform outside of their comfort zone so they will be even further behind, so the pressure builds up and that's a classic downward spiral.

Hadjar seemed to be very conscious about this judging by his comments from months ago. So at least he is aware of the issue, but of course it is easier said than be done.

johnnycesup
johnnycesup
3
Joined: 13 Sep 2024, 11:31

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Paa wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 01:14

Why is it positive missing the compression trick? I think it is a negative, unless the trick would be banned, in which case it would be indeed positive.
I think the reason for the "positive mood" is probably in the article, and those 2 bullet points are just other things of note. The formatting is not ideal, but he's just trying to add a little bit of info to his tweet.

f1isgood
f1isgood
5
Joined: 31 Oct 2022, 19:52
Location: Continental Europe

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Paa wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 02:08
f1isgood wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 01:40
Badger wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 00:09
That's a two hour job if you have the spares. If you don't it becomes a bit harder, or impossible.

Hadjar needs to smarten up though, there's a time to push and there's a time to gather data. When you're in pre-pre-season testing with little or no spares one is more important than the other :lol:
Tin foil hat on. He saw Verstappen's times and wanted to go beat him and crashed.
I think this is a genuine problem for all of his teammates. They see how fast he is, so they would feel the pressure to at least keep up so they try to overperform. But being constantly at or over the edge will inevitably lead to either mistakes or worse performance over time. They try extreme setups and overall perform outside of their comfort zone so they will be even further behind, so the pressure builds up and that's a classic downward spiral.

Hadjar seemed to be very conscious about this judging by his comments from months ago. So at least he is aware of the issue, but of course it is easier said than be done.
It's mostly the consistency that kicks them imo. They can hang with him or beat him even for a few races but every weekend is just too hard, not just for his teammates but basically every driver on the grid. It's what makes him so hard to beat over a year.

I think the highlighted part is literally every driver's cycle next to Max.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

Bill
Bill
6
Joined: 28 Apr 2018, 10:28

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

f1isgood wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 02:27
Paa wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 02:08
f1isgood wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 01:40


Tin foil hat on. He saw Verstappen's times and wanted to go beat him and crashed.
I think this is a genuine problem for all of his teammates. They see how fast he is, so they would feel the pressure to at least keep up so they try to overperform. But being constantly at or over the edge will inevitably lead to either mistakes or worse performance over time. They try extreme setups and overall perform outside of their comfort zone so they will be even further behind, so the pressure builds up and that's a classic downward spiral.

Hadjar seemed to be very conscious about this judging by his comments from months ago. So at least he is aware of the issue, but of course it is easier said than be done.
It's mostly the consistency that kicks them imo. They can hang with him or beat him even for a few races but every weekend is just too hard, not just for his teammates but basically every driver on the grid. It's what makes him so hard to beat over a year.

I think the highlighted part is literally every driver's cycle next to Max.
Chill these is just testing. "He saw max time"max just did 22 laps in heavy rain and obviously not gonna set proper time.i think it's too early to be posting same old propaganda bs

User avatar
Sergej
3
Joined: 09 Apr 2024, 19:00

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post


dialtone
dialtone
139
Joined: 25 Feb 2019, 01:31

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Sergej wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 09:15
that doesn't look wet that much.

Bill
Bill
6
Joined: 28 Apr 2018, 10:28

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Look like limblad spin on shake off. Maybe the mguk is inducing those spins .the rear brakes are nonexistent and the car relies heavily on mguk to stop.

User avatar
AR3-GP
537
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Sergej wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 09:15
This is a troll twitter account. That's not 2026, not RB22, and not T14. It looks like Ferrari crash from years ago.
Beware of T-Rex

Bill
Bill
6
Joined: 28 Apr 2018, 10:28

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Did a Ferrari crash .hadjah is the one who had a crash

dialtone
dialtone
139
Joined: 25 Feb 2019, 01:31

2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

AR3-GP wrote:
Sergej wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 09:15
This is a troll twitter account. That's not 2026, not RB22, and not T14. It looks like Ferrari crash from years ago.
That car has a yellow nose and the corner with all the red outside is T11, what are you talking about?

Might be fake but that’s not a Ferrari and looks like the right corner.

User avatar
ME4ME
82
Joined: 19 Dec 2014, 16:37

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

It's obviously Verstappens turn to drive the remaining day for Red Bull but Hadjar will be thinking about this crash over and over again until Bahrain. One can hope that he's mentally strong enough to not start a negative mental spiral before the season's even started like Gasly did. Luckily Helmut Marko isn't there to call him an idiot. Or it might've been a technical issue with overly aggressive energy harvesting. In that case Hadjar has something to hold on to at least.

Valeo
Valeo
0
Joined: 26 Jul 2025, 18:08

Re: 2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

The good thing is they have at least 1,5 days to fix the car. If they had only 0 or 1 day of running so far, this could have been very costly.
He should be thinking about that! [-o<