
This didn't come to fruition because it was impossible to build honda engine in UK. 90% of the supply chain was in Japan.CHT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 02:04Honda and RB official website mentioned about transferring of engine IP after 2022 season to RBPT, and this was a commercial and strategic decision where RB will take over Honda engine operation in UK, while the engine will continue to carry the Honda badge for marketing purpose. Under this agreement, they won both WCC and WDC. So RBPT has been learning how to build engine with support from Honda since 2023. At its core, 2026 is still a 1.6-litre V6 turbo hybrid ICE.Paa wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026, 18:39To be fair when Honda announced their withdrawal, there was a short period of uncertainty. During that short window, there were indeed some speculations about Honda handing over the IP to Red Bull. So probably this is where all of this is coming from.
However, once things were settled it was made very clear, repeatedly, that no IP was transferred. RBPT is a completely separate project. There were some brain drain of course, but that is happening all the time anyway between teams, it is part of the game.
What I don't get is how this IP-transfer myth refused to die. As if some people were really focused on this during that short window, then somehow ignored years of repetitive clarifications.
And of course, this Honda/RB agreement has expired in end of 2025, and Honda is not involve in 2026 project because Honda has switched to Aston Martin. This is common sense.
In Formula 1, Red Bull Powertrains will have the right to use Honda IP relating to the Power Unit from 2022. Whilst Honda will support Red Bull Powertrains through the assembly of power units, the provision of trackside engineering support and race operation assistance in 2022, from 2023, RBPT will take responsibility for all manufacturing and servicing of Red Bull Racing and Scuderia AlphaTauri’s engines.
https://www.redbullracing.com/int-en/re ... -beyond-f1
There won't be rain tomorrow so its likely Max will get a proper full day of running. Track could be slightly damp in the morning if it rains a bit overnight, but it will probably be cleared out quickly..Wouter wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026, 11:01
Red Bull will not be racing in Barcelona today as expected.
After Hadjar's crash, they are still waiting for new/replacement parts from Milton Keynes, which are expected to arrive later today.
The team therefore hopes to still be racing with Verstappen tomorrow. #F1
didnt know that didnt happen..so 2023 to 2025 honda were producing engine in Japan?Juzh wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026, 11:18This didn't come to fruition because it was impossible to build honda engine in UK. 90% of the supply chain was in Japan.CHT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 02:04Honda and RB official website mentioned about transferring of engine IP after 2022 season to RBPT, and this was a commercial and strategic decision where RB will take over Honda engine operation in UK, while the engine will continue to carry the Honda badge for marketing purpose. Under this agreement, they won both WCC and WDC. So RBPT has been learning how to build engine with support from Honda since 2023. At its core, 2026 is still a 1.6-litre V6 turbo hybrid ICE.Paa wrote: ↑27 Jan 2026, 18:39To be fair when Honda announced their withdrawal, there was a short period of uncertainty. During that short window, there were indeed some speculations about Honda handing over the IP to Red Bull. So probably this is where all of this is coming from.
However, once things were settled it was made very clear, repeatedly, that no IP was transferred. RBPT is a completely separate project. There were some brain drain of course, but that is happening all the time anyway between teams, it is part of the game.
What I don't get is how this IP-transfer myth refused to die. As if some people were really focused on this during that short window, then somehow ignored years of repetitive clarifications.
And of course, this Honda/RB agreement has expired in end of 2025, and Honda is not involve in 2026 project because Honda has switched to Aston Martin. This is common sense.
In Formula 1, Red Bull Powertrains will have the right to use Honda IP relating to the Power Unit from 2022. Whilst Honda will support Red Bull Powertrains through the assembly of power units, the provision of trackside engineering support and race operation assistance in 2022, from 2023, RBPT will take responsibility for all manufacturing and servicing of Red Bull Racing and Scuderia AlphaTauri’s engines.
https://www.redbullracing.com/int-en/re ... -beyond-f1
Yup. The supply chain is pretty ridiculous actually.CHT wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026, 13:07didnt know that didnt happen..so 2023 to 2025 honda were producing engine in Japan?Juzh wrote: ↑29 Jan 2026, 11:18This didn't come to fruition because it was impossible to build honda engine in UK. 90% of the supply chain was in Japan.CHT wrote: ↑28 Jan 2026, 02:04
Honda and RB official website mentioned about transferring of engine IP after 2022 season to RBPT, and this was a commercial and strategic decision where RB will take over Honda engine operation in UK, while the engine will continue to carry the Honda badge for marketing purpose. Under this agreement, they won both WCC and WDC. So RBPT has been learning how to build engine with support from Honda since 2023. At its core, 2026 is still a 1.6-litre V6 turbo hybrid ICE.
And of course, this Honda/RB agreement has expired in end of 2025, and Honda is not involve in 2026 project because Honda has switched to Aston Martin. This is common sense.
In Formula 1, Red Bull Powertrains will have the right to use Honda IP relating to the Power Unit from 2022. Whilst Honda will support Red Bull Powertrains through the assembly of power units, the provision of trackside engineering support and race operation assistance in 2022, from 2023, RBPT will take responsibility for all manufacturing and servicing of Red Bull Racing and Scuderia AlphaTauri’s engines.
https://www.redbullracing.com/int-en/re ... -beyond-f1
Ultimately how consequential was this? Nice anecdote but I doubt it was a big performance differentiating factor ultimately. This seems like a very normal discussion between colleagues
Tim Gross, VCARB's chief Technical Officer, is very optimistic about RBPT
"To come as a complete newcomer to F1 and on your very first day, to then get nearly 200 laps under your belt, it's easy to take this level of reliability for granted, but it can't be underestimated what they've achieved."
"Drivability is really good. To be honest, the drivability is fantastic."
It was visible with Russell's comments. He was expecting RBPT to have issues (although he didn't spell it out). His interview was interesting from yesterday.euv2 wrote: ↑30 Jan 2026, 15:24
Tim Gross, VCARB's chief Technical Officer, is very optimistic about RBPT
"To come as a complete newcomer to F1 and on your very first day, to then get nearly 200 laps under your belt, it's easy to take this level of reliability for granted, but it can't be underestimated what they've achieved."
"Drivability is really good. To be honest, the drivability is fantastic."