2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

[bluechris]

Bit strange that Sky Sports is ranking, period.
Why ? with what tools ?
The channel is worse than netflix, sometimes.

Sky? Remind me the last time they said a good word for a team outside UK.

Yes. Nowadays they even noticed people are fed up with the F1 media generally UK biased, as they claimed it is not the case.
I just wonder then, if it would be different if suddenly the main F1 media channels would be from France or Germany or wherever. You can bet it would be different.
It would be nice to have a neutral take on everyone.

It's understandable from me btw. F1 circles around UK so it's logical that to get subscriptions you need to feed. It's just i don't believe anything they say and i always seek second opinions. 4 years Toto was giving to everyone snake oil and because of the media everyone was ok and we will rise again and bla bla bla. Now we have the same snake oil with the engine. Till this is proved, i will see it again as snake oil.

[Emag]

Bit strange that Sky Sports is ranking Ferrari 4th based on paddock info, said the car looked a handful. They did a lot of mileage and had competitive times as far as we know. Were they glory runs? Were they one of the teams not using the real fuel yet?

Bit strange that Sky Sports is ranking, period.
Why ? with what tools ?
The channel is worse than netflix, sometimes.

Sky? Remind me the last time they said a good word for a team outside UK.

They just have British bias in general. They spin narratives positively for Lewis too when they can.
Also, I doubt they have any pleasure in being positive about RedBull, considering how biased for McLaren they were last year. Especially Crofty and Ted.

As for these predictions, I don't know who Craig "spoke with" inside the paddock, but even if these "rankings" are true for the Barcelona shakedown they don't mean anything for the season. Many have not brought developed concepts yet and some haven't even had proper running near full speed. Things will be different in Bahrain and Melbourne.

[dialtone]

Bit strange that Sky Sports is ranking Ferrari 4th based on paddock info, said the car looked a handful. They did a lot of mileage and had competitive times as far as we know. Were they glory runs? Were they one of the teams not using the real fuel yet?

In 2017 Trackside Ted was asked by Crofty in pre season testing if Ferrari had built a decent car that could worry Mercedes, he switched tone and just replied “no, they haven’t built a decent car and won’t worry Mercedes”

In 2022 Ted went to Horner and asked him if Ferrari shouldn’t fire Leclerc as not being good or overvalued. Horner told him to stop saying nonsense, visibly shocked at the question, and that LEC is a great talent.

The rest is history. Ted and Sky crew don’t know anything about the sport.

[edu2703]

I think it's unreasonable to make any predictions about the pecking order this early. I myself will only comment on the teams' positions after the last day of testing in Bahrain.

Comments based on an initial test, where one team didn't even run, another only did 65 laps in low-power mode. Teams with different engine modes and test objectives, almost all teams running with a initial-spec car and supposedly with fossil fuel instead of synthetic, are 100% guesswork. I believe almost nothing from the tests in Barcelona gives any insight into what the pecking order will be.

Ted and Craig's opinion, with their "sources," has exactly the same value as the opinions of the users here on the forum, in the Pecking order predictions thread, where some people are even basing their predictions on the appearance of the cars, correlating more developed to faster.

[GrizzleBoy]

A snappy Ferrari with 1.16.3 time at Barcelona is always good to take. Enjoyable as SLH said.

He said it'd snappy, yet more controllable.

I remember the first tests in 2022, where you could see Lewis trying to get the rear of the car to rotate with the throttle and the car was just violently kicking out under traction instead as he was stabbing at it to attempt to break traction.

One of his earliest remarks in the Ferrari (think it was the full race in China?), he mentioned only the radio during the race that he cant "steer" the rear of the car.

If these cars have a more forward aero/mechanical balance (inevitable imo) and the rear of the car acts more like a lightweight kart than a heavy bus, then im not surprised the drivers are saying its more fun to drive already.

I wonder how the rookies will adapt. I'd have thought they'd be the most natural given they've had to spend the least amount of time doing the teady braking in a straight line > roll the car in and wait > steady exit driving the rest have done since 2022.

[Emag]

It's also interesting how The Race claims "early whispers" are favoring Ferrari as being the closest to Mercedes in this article

Regardless of that final time, Ferrari had a good week in Spain. Its new car ran extremely reliably, its mileage was impressive, and some early whispers suggest rivals think Ferrari is heading the chasing pack behind Mercedes and ahead of McLaren and Red Bull - all this being heavily caveat early conclusions, of course.

So one of these "whisperers" is not like the other

[venkyhere]

Sky? Remind me the last time they said a good word for a team outside UK.

Yes. Nowadays they even noticed people are fed up with the F1 media generally UK biased, as they claimed it is not the case.
I just wonder then, if it would be different if suddenly the main F1 media channels would be from France or Germany or wherever. You can bet it would be different.
It would be nice to have a neutral take on everyone.

It's understandable from me btw. F1 circles around UK so it's logical that to get subscriptions you need to feed. It's just i don't believe anything they say and i always seek second opinions. 4 years Toto was giving to everyone snake oil and because of the media everyone was ok and we will rise again and bla bla bla. Now we have the same snake oil with the engine. Till this is proved, i will see it again as snake oil.

British bias is understandable as a vast majority of the people involved in the sport - teams, media, parts vendors etc are all based in UK. What i am not able to digest is the 'youtuber/podcaster' like 'lets cook up some content because we want views' mindset behind trying to come up with a pecking order after a SHAKEDOWN (not even testing) event. What's the point ? Sky is one of the licensed broadcasters, which millions of 'generic audience' watch (generic = not deeply 'into' the engg/driving at a technical level) and will believe such content to be 'expert opinion'. It's very different from conducting a post race 'analysis' show because there is 'actual data' in that case.

[GrizzleBoy]

Is sky Italy also British biased?

Is Canal+ from France also British biased?

I suppose Sky Deutschland is also British biased?

K+ from Vietnam also?

TV channels are a product that is sold to customers. Sky UK customers live in the UK, so they cater to their customers.

Just as Sky Italy/Germany do.


Also ironic that this type of complaint comes from people who will say Lewis should shut up about more equal representation in the sport and are 100% fans of a driver they love because hes.a "pure racer" and doesnt do.woke things like.complain about unbalanced representation

I actually noticed the bias back when Russell, Norris, Albon and another British rookie I disrespectfully cant remember had their own feature on Sky as the future of F1 when they were all relatively green. Nobody seemed to care, though.

I just find it funny absolutely nobody had a thing to say about it until people from.Sky had the absolute gall to say that Massi robbed Lewis in Abu Dhabi in 2021 by doing the thing he got fired for doing.

All of a sudden, the bootlickers from Sky F1 who played a part in enabling Maxs dangerous driving till that point with unwavering asskissing were suddenly unacceptably biased and the entire Sky F1 channel become a part of "should it even exist??? I hate sky where else can i watch F1" type discussions.

[Badger]

Is sky Italy also British biased?

Is Canal+ from France also British biased?

I suppose Sky Deutschland is also British biased?

K+ from Vietnam also?

TV channels are a product that is sold to customers. Sky UK customers live in the UK, so they cater to their customers.

Just as Sky Italy/Germany do.


Also ironic that this type of complaint comes from people who will say Lewis should shut up about more equal representation in the sport and are 100% fans of a driver they love because hes.a "pure racer" and doesnt do.woke things like.complain about unbalanced representation

I actually noticed the bias back when Russell, Norris, Albon and another British rookie I disrespectfully cant remember had their own feature on Sky as the future of F1 when they were all relatively green. Nobody seemed to care, though.

I just find it funny absolutely nobody had a thing to say about it until people from.Sky had the absolute gall to say that Massi robbed Lewis in Abu Dhabi in 2021 by doing the thing he got fired for doing.

All of a sudden, the bootlickers from Sky F1 who played a part in enabling Maxs dangerous driving till that point with unwavering asskissing were suddenly unacceptably biased and the entire Sky F1 channel become a part of "should it even exist??? I hate sky where else can i watch F1" type discussions.

Are you Ted Kravitz?

[ScuderiaLeo]

Also ironic that this type of complaint comes from people who will say Lewis should shut up about more equal representation in the sport and are 100% fans of a driver they love because hes.a "pure racer" and doesnt do.woke things like.complain about unbalanced representation

What? How did you gleam this from the current discussion? Is this a statement about other users on this forum? I don't understand what this has to do with the topic.

[dialtone]

Also ironic that this type of complaint comes from people who will say Lewis should shut up about more equal representation in the sport and are 100% fans of a driver they love because hes.a "pure racer" and doesnt do.woke things like.complain about unbalanced representation

What? How did you gleam this from the current discussion? Is this a statement about other users on this forum? I don't understand what this has to do with the topic.

I’m not even sure what message or meaning was trying to be conveyed.

[Space-heat]

If they are lower in power then the ADUO kicks in and they'll be allowed to develop even homologated parts after races 6, 12 and 18 the determination is made.

How does development work here? Will teams only be allowed to start developing an engine update after being granted the ADUO, or are the teams allowed to continually develop the engines, and the ADUO allows them to bring developed improvements?

Under normal circumstances, engine parts will be frozen after March 1st until the end of 2026. A subset of the engine components (piston, cylinder) will be eligible to be re-homologated at the start of 2027, 2028, 2029.

If a manufacturer qualifies for ADUO during one of the qualification periods (Rd 6, rd 12, rd 18), they would be able to introduce a new engine homologation as early as Rd 7, rd 13 or rd 19 depending on when they qualify for ADUO. PU between 2% and 4% gets 1 new homologation. Greater than 4% gets 2 additional homologations. The ADUO also grants additional budget and dyno hours above the standard allocation. Some teams may choose to introduce an update right away based on their existing development time. Others may choose to wait and utilize the extra resources to maximize the performance added to the new homologation.

Thanks, great to know.

[hollus]

The topic is looking for you guys. Sky is not a team with red colors.

Back on topic, please.

[PlatinumZealot]

Bit strange that Sky Sports is ranking Ferrari 4th based on paddock info, said the car looked a handful. They did a lot of mileage and had competitive times as far as we know. Were they glory runs? Were they one of the teams not using the real fuel yet?

In 2017 Trackside Ted was asked by Crofty in pre season testing if Ferrari had built a decent car that could worry Mercedes, he switched tone and just replied “no, they haven’t built a decent car and won’t worry Mercedes”

In 2022 Ted went to Horner and asked him if Ferrari shouldn’t fire Leclerc as not being good or overvalued. Horner told him to stop saying nonsense, visibly shocked at the question, and that LEC is a great talent.

The rest is history. Ted and Sky crew don’t know anything about the sport.

I never watched F1 commentary for "facts and analysis" And I am sorry for anyone that does. The sport is very secretive and only the engineers really know what's going on performance-wise. The commentators and pundits have the same information we do, and the drivers among them haven't driven in decades. Once in a while you might get something from Nico Rosberg or a Jenson Button... When we had Bortelleto commenting he was great too.

[catent]

Sky doesn't wear Ferrari red, but they did make a prediction about the F1 2026 season - a prediction in which Ferrari was named - so it seems perfectly fair/relevant to discuss Sky in that context.