2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Ugh, I can sort of understand why some posters here might use an LLM. If English is not your first language they might use it to tidy up their response to sound correct. However, as others have posted, it can be very obvious that an LLM was used due to wording choices, logic used, etc.

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I'm pretty sure pantherxxx uses LLM to generate his responses, maybe he puts his original post into it and asks it to expand it, but it feels like it is used (a lot)

Recently he had a post:
"When he says drivability is fantastic, that's telling a lot. He probably compares it to the previous Honda engine, and lot of aspects can be better in the new Red Bull Ford engine. He can mean that the engine is light, and have low center of gravity, that's why the car feels so good to drive."

To me it sounds exactly like an LLM. Good phrasing but the meaning is very off. Not sure many F1 fans would interpret drivability as having a light engine or engine with low center of gravity, but an LLM sure could.

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Imagine someone saying, because you don't walk 30 miles to go market and buy grocery and stuff, you are not a MAN, because my great grand father used to walk 100 miles a day in 1920s and you take your car? Or, you use calculator? To multiply simple numbers like 2866998 X 587668? My grand father used to do that from top of his head in 1920s.

Any tool available, that simplifies or eases efforts, has been adopted by humans. Like it or not, you will get used to it. There is no point in vilifying anyone for using a piece of tech to convey what they want, in far more polished way, because, may be their first language isn't English or they aren't masters in English literature or that they aren't as suave in communications as some. So, let's get on with it and accept it as normal way things are going to go from hereon. [Don't bother checking if this is generated by ChatGPT or some LLM model :lol: ]. Focus on post, not the poster!

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Can we not talk about the team rather than some reply whether it’s chatGPT or not?
Wasted a whole page of the thread and reading about it
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
02 Feb 2026, 13:36
Can we not talk about the team rather than some reply whether it’s chatGPT or not?
Wasted a whole page of the thread and reading about it
Agreed .. but than again, the next two weeks will be quite slow I reckon
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Slice 3 is an interview.

Edit: Slice 2 is also a video.


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FittingMechanics wrote:
02 Feb 2026, 10:14
I'm pretty sure pantherxxx uses LLM to generate his responses, maybe he puts his original post into it and asks it to expand it, but it feels like it is used (a lot)

Recently he had a post:
"When he says drivability is fantastic, that's telling a lot. He probably compares it to the previous Honda engine, and lot of aspects can be better in the new Red Bull Ford engine. He can mean that the engine is light, and have low center of gravity, that's why the car feels so good to drive."

To me it sounds exactly like an LLM. Good phrasing but the meaning is very off. Not sure many F1 fans would interpret drivability as having a light engine or engine with low center of gravity, but an LLM sure could.
When the engineers design the powertrain, they're trying to make the overall layout as optimized as possible for a low center of gravity. This is a huge challenge to achieve, and it does improve the driveability of the car by a lot.

I just simply think that Tim Gross would not have praised the new engine that much, unless it's absolutely competetive, and he was really impressed by it. If it were a bulky engine with poor physical characteristics, he would not have been so impressed by it. And if you ask AI it will say the opposite, that he just talked about torque delivery etc. It was my own conclusion.

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organic wrote:
01 Feb 2026, 00:41
pantherxxx wrote:
31 Jan 2026, 18:40
They recruited approximately 170 engineers from Mercedes HPP, as well as dozens from Ferrari, Renault, Honda, and even Cosworth, in addition to new hires. It would be unrealistic to assume that Mercedes’ power unit department was unaffected by the loss of that much experience.

On top of that, there is the massive support that Ford can provide with their state-of-the-art facilities. Based on this, we can safely assume that the Red Bull Ford engine will be very close to Mercedes, or even better. Then it will be the aero and the driver that will decide, not the engine. And Mercedes has been weak in that area for the past four years. Red Bull has a better aero department.

Incidentally, the lap times also show this. Hadjar was immediately the fastest at the start of the test, even though he is much slower than Verstappen. After that, Red Bull deliberately slowed down, as they only improved by a few tenths compared to that lap. Sandbagging.
Very chatgpt of you

Can people seriously stop
You're paranoid. Feel free to copy and paste that entire text into gptzero.me and quillbot.com and it will say it's 0% AI generated.

By the way Helmut Marko said that RBPT hired all those people from those different engine departments, I based my opinion on that. Is Helmut Marko a language model? Lmao.

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pantherxxx wrote:
03 Feb 2026, 16:18
Is Helmut Marko a language model? Lmao.
I mean there are quite a few similarities between Helmut and Grok.

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SirBastianVettel wrote:
03 Feb 2026, 16:22
pantherxxx wrote:
03 Feb 2026, 16:18
Is Helmut Marko a language model? Lmao.
I mean there are quite a few similarities between Helmut and Grok.
One of the similarities is that Helmut's left eye is the one with a hint of human kindness!

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When the engineers design the powertrain, they're trying to make the overall layout as optimized as possible for a low center of gravity. This is a huge challenge to achieve, and it does improve the driveability of the car by a lot.
All good and well, except the 2026 Technical Regulations, 5.7.3, specify the center of gravity of the power unit must be above Z = 200.

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pantherxxx wrote:
03 Feb 2026, 15:57

When the engineers design the powertrain, they're trying to make the overall layout as optimized as possible for a low center of gravity. This is a huge challenge to achieve, and it does improve the driveability of the car by a lot.

I just simply think that Tim Gross would not have praised the new engine that much, unless it's absolutely competetive, and he was really impressed by it. If it were a bulky engine with poor physical characteristics, he would not have been so impressed by it. And if you ask AI it will say the opposite, that he just talked about torque delivery etc. It was my own conclusion.
Generally, when people talk about engine driveability it has absolutely nothing to do with weight or center of gravity, but how responsive it is at different speeds, turbo lag and stuff like that.

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The begining of the end? Or blood letting?
Several senior staff depart ahead of 2026.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/red-bull- ... ruary-2026
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
06 Feb 2026, 05:23
The begining of the end? Or blood letting?
Several senior staff depart ahead of 2026.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/red-bull- ... ruary-2026
Come on, we are talking about administrative staff.