2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

[collindsilva]

The issue is the changes in the rule set introduced in Oct 2025, where it was explicitly stated that CR is measured at Under Ambient Conditions. Since all engine manufacturers (Except merc) had done their research and material selection on CR being 16:1 at max, the new rule set looks like favouring 1 manufacturer..

[sucof]

The issue is the changes in the rule set introduced in Oct 2025, where it was explicitly stated that CR is measured at Under Ambient Conditions. Since all engine manufacturers (Except merc) had done their research and material selection on CR being 16:1 at max, the new rule set looks like favouring 1 manufacturer..

Without trying to start an endless discussion, let's just accept that this is not true. The rule is not clear about this. If it were, all manufacturers would have done the same.
The difference between these teams were not not enough research or ingenuity, but that most teams read the rule like 16:1 is the allowed compression rate. And one tried to read something else in to it.
And they still did not decide who is right, though based on the reaction of the FIA the 16:1 was the intention, otherwise they would have not started the research in to measuring compression rate while the engine is running.

[collindsilva]

The issue is the changes in the rule set introduced in Oct 2025, where it was explicitly stated that CR is measured at Under Ambient Conditions. Since all engine manufacturers (Except merc) had done their research and material selection on CR being 16:1 at max, the new rule set looks like favouring 1 manufacturer..

Without trying to start an endless discussion, let's just accept that this is not true. The rule is not clear about this. If it were, all manufacturers would have done the same.
The difference between these teams were not not enough research or ingenuity, but that most teams read the rule like 16:1 is the allowed compression rate. And one tried to read something else in to it.
And they still did not decide who is right, though based on the reaction of the FIA the 16:1 was the intention, otherwise they would have not started the research in to measuring compression rate while the engine is running.

it is just the interpretation of the rules, we have 5 Engine Manufacturers, Majority i.e. 4 have interpreted it as 16:1 and 1 has interpreted differently, we can consider it as innovation or a loop hole, however, FIA clarifying the testing basis as ambient in Oct 2025 looks as lobbying from 1 team..

[Schumix]

The issue is the changes in the rule set introduced in Oct 2025, where it was explicitly stated that CR is measured at Under Ambient Conditions. Since all engine manufacturers (Except merc) had done their research and material selection on CR being 16:1 at max, the new rule set looks like favouring 1 manufacturer..

Without trying to start an endless discussion, let's just accept that this is not true. The rule is not clear about this. If it were, all manufacturers would have done the same.
The difference between these teams were not not enough research or ingenuity, but that most teams read the rule like 16:1 is the allowed compression rate. And one tried to read something else in to it.
And they still did not decide who is right, though based on the reaction of the FIA the 16:1 was the intention, otherwise they would have not started the research in to measuring compression rate while the engine is running.

it is just the interpretation of the rules, we have 5 Engine Manufacturers, Majority i.e. 4 have interpreted it as 16:1 and 1 has interpreted differently, we can consider it as innovation or a loop hole, however, FIA clarifying the testing basis as ambient in Oct 2025 looks as lobbying from 1 team..

Yes, indeed, this clarification from the FIA ​​could now be interpreted as an attempt by a team to cover its backs. But that's precisely where the problem lies: how can the FIA ​​write in its specifications that the compression ratio must be 16:1 at all times, and at the same time say that this compression ratio is measured cold, at ambient temperature? The FIA's technical team knows full well that F1 engines operate at very high temperatures. To be fair to all engine manufacturers, and in my opinion, the FIA ​​should therefore do with Mercedes what it did with Ferrari in 2019: remove the advantage this technical solution gives Mercedes and provide technical clarifications so that no other engine manufacturer exploits this loophole.

[sucof]

Yes, indeed, this clarification from the FIA ​​could now be interpreted as an attempt by a team to cover its backs. But that's precisely where the problem lies: how can the FIA ​​write in its specifications that the compression ratio must be 16:1 at all times, and at the same time say that this compression ratio is measured cold, at ambient temperature? The FIA's technical team knows full well that F1 engines operate at very high temperatures. To be fair to all engine manufacturers, and in my opinion, the FIA ​​should therefore do with Mercedes what it did with Ferrari in 2019: remove the advantage this technical solution gives Mercedes and provide technical clarifications so that no other engine manufacturer exploits this loophole.

Indeed. If they want precedence, use the Ferrari one. In law and in courts, precedence matters highly.
You can not rule this way once then the other the next time. That undermines the law and the whole system.

With the modification of the rule last year, you can claim either incompetence from the FIA or quite illegal lobbying from that 1 team.
The FIA may claim, they do not have any method to measure compression ratio while the engine is running, but if that was the reason for that silly rule modification, then why are they suddenly capable to conduct research on the topic and decide the implementation of measuring device soonish??? (not soon enough)

The viewers, the fans will be mad to see this year that one engine winning because of this mess. Except those fans who are rooting for that 1 team, and or have zero knowledge of the matter or lack of a real spine.

[bluechris]

Yes, indeed, this clarification from the FIA ​​could now be interpreted as an attempt by a team to cover its backs. But that's precisely where the problem lies: how can the FIA ​​write in its specifications that the compression ratio must be 16:1 at all times, and at the same time say that this compression ratio is measured cold, at ambient temperature? The FIA's technical team knows full well that F1 engines operate at very high temperatures. To be fair to all engine manufacturers, and in my opinion, the FIA ​​should therefore do with Mercedes what it did with Ferrari in 2019: remove the advantage this technical solution gives Mercedes and provide technical clarifications so that no other engine manufacturer exploits this loophole.

Indeed. If they want precedence, use the Ferrari one. In law and in courts, precedence matters highly.
You can not rule this way once then the other the next time. That undermines the law and the whole system.

With the modification of the rule last year, you can claim either incompetence from the FIA or quite illegal lobbying from that 1 team.
The FIA may claim, they do not have any method to measure compression ratio while the engine is running, but if that was the reason for that silly rule modification, then why are they suddenly capable to conduct research on the topic and decide the implementation of measuring device soonish??? (not soon enough)

The viewers, the fans will be mad to see this year that one engine winning because of this mess. Except those fans who are rooting for that 1 team, and or have zero knowledge of the matter or lack of a real spine.

I am pretty certain that if FIA asks the teams for a way to measure the CR in high temperatures, many will come with a solution on this. They want to do that? this is the question.
I am also certain that engine manufacturers in their benches knows exactly what is happening with CR in the whole temperature range.
This is a cat & mouse political game lately and we all have memory what huppent in the past. For me things are crystal clear and a ruling like TD39 is the only way, or this is only for Ferrari?

[sucof]

Yes, indeed, this clarification from the FIA ​​could now be interpreted as an attempt by a team to cover its backs. But that's precisely where the problem lies: how can the FIA ​​write in its specifications that the compression ratio must be 16:1 at all times, and at the same time say that this compression ratio is measured cold, at ambient temperature? The FIA's technical team knows full well that F1 engines operate at very high temperatures. To be fair to all engine manufacturers, and in my opinion, the FIA ​​should therefore do with Mercedes what it did with Ferrari in 2019: remove the advantage this technical solution gives Mercedes and provide technical clarifications so that no other engine manufacturer exploits this loophole.

Indeed. If they want precedence, use the Ferrari one. In law and in courts, precedence matters highly.
You can not rule this way once then the other the next time. That undermines the law and the whole system.

With the modification of the rule last year, you can claim either incompetence from the FIA or quite illegal lobbying from that 1 team.
The FIA may claim, they do not have any method to measure compression ratio while the engine is running, but if that was the reason for that silly rule modification, then why are they suddenly capable to conduct research on the topic and decide the implementation of measuring device soonish??? (not soon enough)

The viewers, the fans will be mad to see this year that one engine winning because of this mess. Except those fans who are rooting for that 1 team, and or have zero knowledge of the matter or lack of a real spine.

I am pretty certain that if FIA asks the teams for a way to measure the CR in high temperatures, many will come with a solution on this. They want to do that? this is the question.
I am also certain that engine manufacturers in their benches knows exactly what is happening with CR in the whole temperature range.
This is a cat & mouse political game lately and we all have memory what huppent in the past. For me things are crystal clear and a ruling like TD39 is the only way, or this is only for Ferrari?

The FIA already ordered companies and experts to suggest measuring methods and devices, and if I am not mistaken they already choosen one to implement.
I think this explains that they meant the 16:1 as the rule.
They just say to implement the new measuring system will happen later, probably next year... so this alone does not solve this problem for 2026

[dans79]

The FIA already ordered companies and experts to suggest measuring methods and devices, and if I am not mistaken they already choosen one to implement.
I think this explains that they meant the 16:1 as the rule.
They just say to implement the new measuring system will happen later, probably next year... so this alone does not solve this problem for 2026

It isn't an issue, the rules have said the same thing since the first version was published in August of 2022.

No cylinder of the engine may have a geometric compression ratio higher than 16.0. The
procedure which will be used to determine this value may be found in the Appendix to the
Technical and Sporting Regulations.

Geometric compression ratio is the simplest form, it's what a gear head would use in their driveway. Effective compression ratio, is the real world value. Because of basic physics it cannot be a fixed value. Air density effects it temperature effects it, humidity level effects it etc etc. People are literally making a mountain out of a molehill.

[FDD]

As far as I understand, there is finite limitation of materials that can be used.
So, I think that using some exotic materials which can expand under certain thermal conditions is not possible.
Then reading the rulebook in different way/interpreting is possible, but again the question is in which measure a certain team can use that kind of interpreting with strictly defined materials allowed to be used.

[Xaniesta]

Ocon confirms that the Ferrari engine reached 350 km/h on the start straight during the shakedown:

"Reaching 350 km/h at the end of the straight on one of the runs was something that had never happened before."

is this true?

I am not surprised, since on the some videos I saw X mode is used on the main straight, which means less drag and therefore top speed can be bigger.

[dans79]

So, I think that using some exotic materials which can expand under certain thermal conditions is not possible.

Everything expands and contracts due to thermal changes.

One of the most interesting ones Is water.
https://i.insider.com/5571f413f7b1051d0 ... &auto=webp

[Schumix]

Yes, indeed, this clarification from the FIA ​​could now be interpreted as an attempt by a team to cover its backs. But that's precisely where the problem lies: how can the FIA ​​write in its specifications that the compression ratio must be 16:1 at all times, and at the same time say that this compression ratio is measured cold, at ambient temperature? The FIA's technical team knows full well that F1 engines operate at very high temperatures. To be fair to all engine manufacturers, and in my opinion, the FIA ​​should therefore do with Mercedes what it did with Ferrari in 2019: remove the advantage this technical solution gives Mercedes and provide technical clarifications so that no other engine manufacturer exploits this loophole.

Indeed. If they want precedence, use the Ferrari one. In law and in courts, precedence matters highly.
You can not rule this way once then the other the next time. That undermines the law and the whole system.

With the modification of the rule last year, you can claim either incompetence from the FIA or quite illegal lobbying from that 1 team.
The FIA may claim, they do not have any method to measure compression ratio while the engine is running, but if that was the reason for that silly rule modification, then why are they suddenly capable to conduct research on the topic and decide the implementation of measuring device soonish??? (not soon enough)

The viewers, the fans will be mad to see this year that one engine winning because of this mess. Except those fans who are rooting for that 1 team, and or have zero knowledge of the matter or lack of a real spine.

As a longtime F1 fan, I completely agree with you. And if Mercedes wins thanks to this advantage in 2026, it will damage a sport that is currently undergoing a revival. This is how a promising 2026 season could be skewed by political maneuvering and lobbying. The similarity to the Ferrari affair in 2019 is undeniable. Many F1 fans have the bitter feeling that there are double standards at play. This issue should also raise a deeper question: By trying to regulate and specify everything, isn't the FIA ​​creating a labyrinthine?

[bluechris]

Indeed. If they want precedence, use the Ferrari one. In law and in courts, precedence matters highly.
You can not rule this way once then the other the next time. That undermines the law and the whole system.

With the modification of the rule last year, you can claim either incompetence from the FIA or quite illegal lobbying from that 1 team.
The FIA may claim, they do not have any method to measure compression ratio while the engine is running, but if that was the reason for that silly rule modification, then why are they suddenly capable to conduct research on the topic and decide the implementation of measuring device soonish??? (not soon enough)

The viewers, the fans will be mad to see this year that one engine winning because of this mess. Except those fans who are rooting for that 1 team, and or have zero knowledge of the matter or lack of a real spine.

I am pretty certain that if FIA asks the teams for a way to measure the CR in high temperatures, many will come with a solution on this. They want to do that? this is the question.
I am also certain that engine manufacturers in their benches knows exactly what is happening with CR in the whole temperature range.
This is a cat & mouse political game lately and we all have memory what huppent in the past. For me things are crystal clear and a ruling like TD39 is the only way, or this is only for Ferrari?

The FIA already ordered companies and experts to suggest measuring methods and devices, and if I am not mistaken they already choosen one to implement.
I think this explains that they meant the 16:1 as the rule.
They just say to implement the new measuring system will happen later, probably next year... so this alone does not solve this problem for 2026

2 words, Toto Rules, always next year for them .
It is what it is, let's hope that the others have aces in their sleeves or it will be boring.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Two people have left Hamilton's side of the garage. Ella, his PR officer, and Marc Hynes, his manager. Not surprising since it's a new regulation set, lots of people looking for jobs, however I am surprised it's these two Hamilton seemed quite close to both of them. Hopefully he has some good replacements lined up.

[f1316]

Ocon confirms that the Ferrari engine reached 350 km/h on the start straight during the shakedown:

"Reaching 350 km/h at the end of the straight on one of the runs was something that had never happened before."

is this true?

I am not surprised, since on the some videos I saw X mode is used on the main straight, which means less drag and therefore top speed can be bigger.

355 kph actually:

Ocon reckoned that drivers were hitting 350km/h on the run down to Barcelona's first corner, with the acceleration just keeping on coming.

"I never thought I would get to 350km/h that fast," he said. "We had an inconsistent deployment in one of the runs that we did and I had full deployment into the straight and I arrived at 355km/h in Turn 1 in Barcelona!

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/what ... velations/