2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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I was under the impression that fuels weren't homologated yet because the entire process needs to be carbon neutral, on top of the suppliers obviously wanting some real world running before finalizing.

I am sure all the teams ran current fuels.

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zoroastar wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 09:16
Rikrikrik wrote:
05 Feb 2026, 04:26
GhostF1 wrote:
05 Feb 2026, 00:46


It's good experience to have, they will now just be pushing the mixtures for F1, they are crucial to the power units stable running. Honda has the lab and departments to develop some fuels in-house. The mixture used in previous power units was largely a mixture developed by Honda with ExxonMobil providing production and refining techniques and this development is what made their combustion technique stable. I'll have to find the Japanese article, they were fairly detailed.
Same with the engine oil, where they were using natural compounds usually found in the cosmetic industry. It was never confirmed but one of them was speculated pretty seriously to be Ambergris (or associated/similar compounds) which has some.. interesting properties.
Again, in that recent Japanese interview with Kakuda, he mentions they've been developing the fuel and lubricants together with Aramco for a while now, so it stands to reason they'd be passing a lot of this knowledge onto them. So it's not unreasonable to assume Aramco and Honda are probably the best combination, for the moment at least, to start with these new fuels, experience wise.
It's also comforting to know that at the Barcelona test, they were using the new fuels and validating the ICE with them.
They used the sustainable fuel during shakedown? anyone confirmed this? or is just a rumor?
i heard that people think that they used a hybrid fuel that mixes traditional and sustainable.. and i heard that the only team that may have tested 100% sustainable was mclaren. BUT, its all heresay. nobody has said they know for certain.
I actually heardas Aramco supplies sustainable fuel in F2, it and Honda were the only ones using sustainable fuels.
The engine mapping needs to change based on fuel, so I am sure they practice ahead and will not switch fuels just in Australia.

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sn809 wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 14:33
zoroastar wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 09:16
Rikrikrik wrote:
05 Feb 2026, 04:26

They used the sustainable fuel during shakedown? anyone confirmed this? or is just a rumor?
i heard that people think that they used a hybrid fuel that mixes traditional and sustainable.. and i heard that the only team that may have tested 100% sustainable was mclaren. BUT, its all heresay. nobody has said they know for certain.
I actually heardas Aramco supplies sustainable fuel in F2, it and Honda were the only ones using sustainable fuels.
The engine mapping needs to change based on fuel, so I am sure they practice ahead and will not switch fuels just in Australia.
I also read that Honda used 100% sustainable, but I don't know if it's true. I've also heard rumors from McLaren. However, from experience, I can say that these rumors sometimes turn out to be true. for example, since last year it has been said that the Mercedes PU is the best

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Leon Kennedy wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 16:13
I can say that these rumors sometimes turn out to be true. for example, since last year it has been said that the Mercedes PU is the best
And what's that an example of? We know nothing of the Mercedes PU.

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Waz wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 10:01
I was under the impression that fuels weren't homologated yet because the entire process needs to be carbon neutral, on top of the suppliers obviously wanting some real world running before finalizing.

I am sure all the teams ran current fuels.
Wouldn't you think they've been testing with this fuel in the dynos?

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What intrigues me the most and also interests me is to what extent the results they have obtained in these initial tests correspond to what they expected. In other words, whether the on-track results match the wind tunnel results. Because that would be a big step forward compared to the last seasons. The little reliably accurate information I’ve come across regarding the tests suggests that very possibly it is what they were aiming for, and Fernando's expression reinforces my opinion. I think the results do match; Fernando is a terrible actor.

It would be great news to finally put aside the feeling of being lost with the car's development.
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Otromundo wrote:
08 Feb 2026, 07:38
What intrigues me the most and also interests me is to what extent the results they have obtained in these initial tests correspond to what they expected. In other words, whether the on-track results match the wind tunnel results. Because that would be a big step forward compared to the last seasons. The little reliably accurate information I’ve come across regarding the tests suggests that very possibly it is what they were aiming for, and Fernando's expression reinforces my opinion. I think the results do match; Fernando is a terrible actor.

It would be great news to finally put aside the feeling of being lost with the car's development.
Not sure that car was ever in the wind tunnel. Newey did say that the car that they will start the year with will look very different to that. We'll see tomorrow what the day 1 car will look like. I didn't see any pictures of tge AMR26 with aero rakes either?

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diffuser wrote:
08 Feb 2026, 16:51
Otromundo wrote:
08 Feb 2026, 07:38
What intrigues me the most and also interests me is to what extent the results ... blablabla ...
It would be great news to finally put aside the feeling of being lost with the car's development.
Not sure that car was ever in the wind tunnel. Newey did say that the car that they will start the year with will look very different to that. We'll see tomorrow what the day 1 car will look like. I didn't see any pictures of tge AMR26 with aero rakes either?
Last season I published a video talking about CoreWeave, an AI program that I found revolutionary and that AM has exclusively. I still believe it could be what the team needs to progress properly and stand out from the other teams. That's exactly why I'm so interested in seeing the results on track under race conditions. If, as I hope, it works... I'm sure we'll have a good time. And the problems with car development will be over.
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Otromundo wrote:
08 Feb 2026, 19:58
Last season I published a video talking about CoreWeave, an AI program that I found revolutionary and that AM has exclusively. I still believe it could be what the team needs to progress properly and stand out from the other teams.
What is it good for?

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mzso wrote:
08 Feb 2026, 20:24
Otromundo wrote:
08 Feb 2026, 19:58
Last season I published a video talking about CoreWeave, an AI program that I found revolutionary and that AM has exclusively. I still believe it could be what the team needs to progress properly and stand out from the other teams.
What is it good for?
It is used to simulate the car exactly, its behavior under various conditions, etc., etc. (including also exact models of each track) without resorting to scale models. I recall that the link I shared to a YouTube video was around the middle of the season and that the original video was in Spanish, although it could be automatically translated and the result was very acceptable. In any case, you can see what they themselves explain in this link:

https://www.coreweave.com/partnerships/ ... -aramco-f1
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With all the energy talk and especially during qualy wonder how much alonsos season in wec will be of help to him compared to the other drivers

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Otromundo wrote:
08 Feb 2026, 07:38
What intrigues me the most and also interests me is to what extent the results they have obtained in these initial tests correspond to what they expected. In other words, whether the on-track results match the wind tunnel results. Because that would be a big step forward compared to the last seasons. The little reliably accurate information I’ve come across regarding the tests suggests that very possibly it is what they were aiming for, and Fernando's expression reinforces my opinion. I think the results do match; Fernando is a terrible actor.

It would be great news to finally put aside the feeling of being lost with the car's development.
ive seen it reported a couple of times that a lot of teams are having problems with simulations not matching real life, but ferrari and aston martins correlation being good. mostly on f1 news videos, so the info probably comes from one of the twitter channels reporting inside sources. hopefully well have a lot more info in the coming week after testing starts. vamos!!

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SSJ4 wrote:
08 Feb 2026, 23:01
With all the energy talk and especially during qualy wonder how much alonsos season in wec will be of help to him compared to the other drivers
It is possible Alonso may have more fun with these cars than the latest generation of cars. Race craft and tactics may be more important than ever.

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zoroastar wrote:
09 Feb 2026, 01:26
Otromundo wrote:
08 Feb 2026, 07:38
What intrigues me the most and also interests me is to what extent the results they have obtained in these initial tests correspond to what they expected. In other words, whether the on-track results match the wind tunnel results. Because that would be a big step forward compared to the last seasons. The little reliably accurate information I’ve come across regarding the tests suggests that very possibly it is what they were aiming for, and Fernando's expression reinforces my opinion. I think the results do match; Fernando is a terrible actor.

It would be great news to finally put aside the feeling of being lost with the car's development.
ive seen it reported a couple of times that a lot of teams are having problems with simulations not matching real life, but ferrari and aston martins correlation being good. mostly on f1 news videos, so the info probably comes from one of the twitter channels reporting inside sources. hopefully well have a lot more info in the coming week after testing starts. vamos!!
I remember last year at this time that Alonso said the car on track felt nothing like the one in their simulator. It will be interesting to see how much improvements have been made with the calibration this time around.

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zoroastar wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 09:02
PinkFloydPulse wrote:
04 Feb 2026, 14:27
Jesus, so much negativity and scepticism here, you guys are truly and utterly cooked. Wait at least until the first race before all the doom and gloom takes over... my god in heaven, 41 pages on the team thread and we are not even in Australia... Let Newey cook, give Honda a chance, and let the first few races pass before declaring "it's over, we are done!" ...
yeah man, its depressing to look at the world through some peoples eyes haha. if i had one wish for the last 10 years for alonso (being a fan), it would have been for him to drive a newey designed car in a team with a budget. and here we are.
Actually, it seems that the good Lord has wanted to do Fernando a favor. Indeed, as you say, we are almost witnessing the definitive end for Fernando. His last season, then he will become a father... and that's it. That's how it should be, although I would love it and it would also fairly make up for all the disappointments I have experienced over the past few years if something extraordinary, miraculous happened. Disappointments and moments of despair that I suppose are common to everyone here on the forum. Because, perhaps being bold, it seems to me that most of us are here because of Fernando. Not because of AM.

After having been through so much for so long... now that it seems Fernando is almost racing in Red Bull at least... and because I believe he can finally have his damn longed-for and well-deserved car... being Spanish like him... ambition inevitably arises! The glorious thing would be for this year to be so good that it would be a must (if he finished among the top 5) to race in 2027 as well. And then we could all enjoy watching a kind of prodigy, miracle, or whatever you want to call it. All of this was unimaginable five years ago.

He has Newey, he has my admired Mr. Stroll who has not spared any effort, and has used them wisely (something not very common among millionaires who are new to F1, especially with a driver's son (ERROR)) especially if your child is one of the pilots and who has proven to be a true professional in my humble opinion. It has taken time and at times he has frustrated me, despite knowing how very complicated his task was to put all the pieces together, but when he knew what to do, he did it in true Normandy landing style and I will always remember him fondly for having done it: the occasion to relive the rebellious Fernando deserved it. But the only one who has truly bet on him has been Mr. Stroll. For the first time, Fernando has the ingredients of an excellent team around him. And working for him.

Now AM is a very serious team. If I’m not mistaken, Newey has also bought shares of AM. So apart from the salary or the agreement they have, it’s HIS TEAM. Considering who he is and the amount of resources he has at his disposal, and keeping in mind that Newey and Fernando 'like each other' so much in statements, which is also evident in the images of them together... I hope the team gets their act together in pit stops, strategies, and other 'administrative' matters... because we are losing a lot of time in the pit stops. Several, not just a few, minutes by the end of the season. That’s like shooting yourself in the foot, that can’t happen.

Besides being my wish, I think logic also makes it possible to create a proper racing team. Finally. A team capable of losing but fighting until the end. At least with the means to achieve it. The dream of the first AM car in Fernando's hands faded after a dazzling start. And then 2 lost seasons, wandering, disoriented, slow... I think that has been the worst part, because it was unexpected, of the illness called 'Alonso fan.' Last year I ended up climbing the walls several times.

Perhaps we finally have all the pieces of the puzzle and all that's left is to put them in place. Before, we were missing pieces and were disoriented. Now I believe we have all the pieces and we possibly also have a wildcard: CoreWeave. If the program works as it seems it can... it’s a revolution in itself. And it seems that Newey really likes it for now.

Sorry for the long story I just unleashed. There’s a terrible wind and it’s raining quite a bit, I can’t sleep. I think that if CoreWeave manages to make Newey’s work easier, the Honda engine holds up, and the car isn’t the worst when it comes to using up new tires... if the team doesn’t fall asleep in the pits (and here I think Newey will be crucial, being 'down there' and in charge of the team)... Fernando has an extra opportunity that could - finally - be the one he deserves. As long as his car can fight with the ones in front, he’ll take care of the rest.

So we should be happy because for now everything is going wonderfully well. Theoretically speaking. I will wait, as usual, until the 3rd race, Suzuka. If the car at least shows clear progress, everything will go well, I think.
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