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"Were there any surprises in the behaviour of the MCL40 on the track [in Barcelona]?"

Andrea Stella: "No, what we saw on the track was in line with expectations and, above all, with the simulations. What emerged clearly is that the learning curve is very steep for everyone – drivers and teams alike – which means that every lap teaches you something useful in terms of performance. After all, it was natural to expect such a scenario, considering that these cars are totally new, from A to Z. We know that the MCL40 is a good starting point, but now we have to work hard to develop it and, through our knowledge the car, improve the overall performance of the package, both for the immediate future and to further define the development lines during the season."

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Ben1980 wrote:
06 Feb 2026, 21:33
CjC wrote:
06 Feb 2026, 16:06
Ben1980 wrote:
06 Feb 2026, 13:11


Its being reported that tgey are changing the way it's tested, and will be at heat.

My very basic reading is they have gone against the meaning of the regulations, I would be surprised if it doesn't get amended at some point.
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/merc ... melbourne/
The engine will be neutered at some point.

It seems fair.
I mean i dont like the way the whole regulations is implemented. If the conpression is measured at 20 degress and the engine passes then why are we even talking about anything. The competition being outsmarted is now fighting for it to be banned.

Best thing is then to simply develop ab reasonably efficient engine, use as little as possible funds and then fight agains every inovation your competitors bring.

Thats not a philosophy of a sport that consideres itself as the pinacle of motorsport.

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genarro wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 10:43
Ben1980 wrote:
06 Feb 2026, 21:33
The engine will be neutered at some point.

It seems fair.
I mean i dont like the way the whole regulations is implemented. If the conpression is measured at 20 degress and the engine passes then why are we even talking about anything. The competition being outsmarted is now fighting for it to be banned.

Best thing is then to simply develop ab reasonably efficient engine, use as little as possible funds and then fight agains every inovation your competitors bring.

Thats not a philosophy of a sport that consideres itself as the pinacle of motorsport.
Are you new to F1 ?
Politics and gamesmanship is one of the foundational pillars of this sport. The 'money' decides what the rules should be, not FIA. Whatever is sold to us as FIA decisions, is actually the other way around. Whatever 'innovations' a team brings, even if it is within the 'rules', if there is enough 'agreement' across other teams, it will get banned, citing breach of 'spirit of the rules'. How many examples of this we have had over how many decades ?

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If the FIA are currently in discussion I doubt they will nerf the engine before seasons start, there is so little time and 4 teams affected.

I also don't think they will allow it next year either, but who knows.
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Andrea Stella says that the Barcelona test indicated that McLaren faces stiff competition in 2026: "In terms of performance, it is obviously very difficult to give an objective assessment, as we do not know the other teams' work programmes, fuel levels or work schedules. That said, it is clear that there are at least three competitors – Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull – who have all got off to a good start. In particular, the Brackley team has definitely raised the bar, and we will have to work hard to do the same. The fact that the three teams I mentioned are equipped with three different power units is a first indication that there may not be extremely marked differences in terms of absolute performance, at least as far as some of the PU suppliers are concerned."


Zak Brown on the Barcelona Shakedown:
🗣️: “Can you make any observations on the Formula 1 packing order based on the limited stuff you saw at the closed test?”

Zak Brown: “It looks like the big 4 are the big 4. Hard to know yet in what order. If you went to Vegas today, I think Mercedes looks like the favorite sitting here right now, but a long way to go. Williams didn't make it out. Aston only got out at the very end. So you have no idea where Williams stands. I think the grid will be more spread out, which is to be expected in new formula for a little bit. So last year in Abu Dhabi, I think a second covered the entire field. I would anticipate it being two or 3 seconds covers the entire field, but that's normal.

We're going to have to learn how to race these cars a little bit differently because they run out of deployment. So, I still think there's some work to be done with the FIA to refine the rules to make sure that while there's strategy and how you deploy the battery and the energy that, you know, we're not running out of energy at the end of straights and getting into lift and coast. I don't think that'll be visible to the fan, ‘cause we were 3-4 seconds off what was last year's pace, but you can't see that. So, you know, it's like I've gone around Indy, you can't tell the difference between 230 and 226. They look like they're flying.

So, early to tell, but it kind of looks like the usual suspects, but too hard to tell in what order. The Red Bull engine was very strong. I think everyone was pleasantly surprised. I'd rather them not be as competitive as but you know, impressed with what they've done because they came out, they did a lot of miles and they seem to be very competitive.”

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mwillems wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 11:11
If the FIA are currently in discussion I doubt they will nerf the engine before seasons start, there is so little time and 4 teams affected.

I also don't think they will allow it next year either, but who knows.
They may not can it totally, but they may say it needs restrictions to much the 16.1 regulation.

A lot of this goes over my head, but its clear the 16.1 was set as the maximum, designing it to go higher just seems a clear breach.

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Ben1980 wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 12:43
mwillems wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 11:11
If the FIA are currently in discussion I doubt they will nerf the engine before seasons start, there is so little time and 4 teams affected.

I also don't think they will allow it next year either, but who knows.
They may not can it totally, but they may say it needs restrictions to much the 16.1 regulation.

A lot of this goes over my head, but its clear the 16.1 was set as the maximum, designing it to go higher just seems a clear breach.
The maximum when tested cold though. But like I say, it's a practicality issue, what can be done and are the customer teams also to suffer? Mclaren won't know of this, shouldn't pay for this. If there are any repercussions this year, might it be penalties for Mercedes. I don't know, I just think that the customer teams are an effective "Human shield" for the engine if it is indeed illegal, which on face value it appears not to be, since the teams are complaining to the press after speaking with the FIA, which suggests it isn't going their way.
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mwillems wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 13:19
Ben1980 wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 12:43
mwillems wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 11:11
If the FIA are currently in discussion I doubt they will nerf the engine before seasons start, there is so little time and 4 teams affected.

I also don't think they will allow it next year either, but who knows.
They may not can it totally, but they may say it needs restrictions to much the 16.1 regulation.

A lot of this goes over my head, but its clear the 16.1 was set as the maximum, designing it to go higher just seems a clear breach.
The maximum when tested cold though. But like I say, it's a practicality issue, what can be done and are the customer teams also to suffer? Mclaren won't know of this, shouldn't pay for this. If there are any repercussions this year, might it be penalties for Mercedes. I don't know, I just think that the customer teams are an effective "Human shield" for the engine if it is indeed illegal, which on face value it appears not to be, since the teams are complaining to the press after speaking with the FIA, which suggests it isn't going their way.
Mercedes are probably the most important team in F1, at present, so its a big thing to take them on.

But, if they've brought in Audi on the basis of the 16.1 and then just accept that actually it isnt, they will get issues from that side and other engine suppliers.

I think it will come to how its done, which no one seems to know. But, why put in the 16.1 if its then irrelevant if thats exceeded.

Its just a wait because somethings going to happen.

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Ben1980 wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 13:38
mwillems wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 13:19
Ben1980 wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 12:43


They may not can it totally, but they may say it needs restrictions to much the 16.1 regulation.

A lot of this goes over my head, but its clear the 16.1 was set as the maximum, designing it to go higher just seems a clear breach.
The maximum when tested cold though. But like I say, it's a practicality issue, what can be done and are the customer teams also to suffer? Mclaren won't know of this, shouldn't pay for this. If there are any repercussions this year, might it be penalties for Mercedes. I don't know, I just think that the customer teams are an effective "Human shield" for the engine if it is indeed illegal, which on face value it appears not to be, since the teams are complaining to the press after speaking with the FIA, which suggests it isn't going their way.
Mercedes are probably the most important team in F1, at present, so its a big thing to take them on.

But, if they've brought in Audi on the basis of the 16.1 and then just accept that actually it isnt, they will get issues from that side and other engine suppliers.

I think it will come to how its done, which no one seems to know. But, why put in the 16.1 if its then irrelevant if thats exceeded.

Its just a wait because somethings going to happen.
The FIA need to put the right rules in place, so there is some responsibility in their part. It is the ethos of F1 to find these loopholes, Audi didn't enter blind, they just sound like they weren't quite so smart. There are very few innocent parties in F1, even Mclaren push the rules :wink:
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mwillems wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 13:57
Ben1980 wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 13:38
mwillems wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 13:19


The maximum when tested cold though. But like I say, it's a practicality issue, what can be done and are the customer teams also to suffer? Mclaren won't know of this, shouldn't pay for this. If there are any repercussions this year, might it be penalties for Mercedes. I don't know, I just think that the customer teams are an effective "Human shield" for the engine if it is indeed illegal, which on face value it appears not to be, since the teams are complaining to the press after speaking with the FIA, which suggests it isn't going their way.
Mercedes are probably the most important team in F1, at present, so its a big thing to take them on.

But, if they've brought in Audi on the basis of the 16.1 and then just accept that actually it isnt, they will get issues from that side and other engine suppliers.

I think it will come to how its done, which no one seems to know. But, why put in the 16.1 if its then irrelevant if thats exceeded.

Its just a wait because somethings going to happen.
The FIA need to put the right rules in place, so there is some responsibility in their part. It is the ethos of F1 to find these loopholes, Audi didn't enter blind, they just sound like they weren't quite so smart. There are very few innocent parties in F1, even Mclaren push the rules :wink:
Every team pushing the rules. If though, and its a bit if, Mercedes have worked a way to get much higher than the stipulated maximum, its more than just a loophole, it will have to be a trick. All teams will know what us realistic at 16.1 which is why its causing problems.

Someone will blink, or we will get more abd more leaks.

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SilviuAgo wrote:
07 Feb 2026, 12:32
That would be illegal black and white, no way the FIA approved it.
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CjC wrote:
06 Feb 2026, 16:06
Ben1980 wrote:
06 Feb 2026, 13:11
genarro wrote:
06 Feb 2026, 12:42


Of course it is legal. Its a clever interpretation of rules and not cheating in any sense. And the FIA cleaered the engine of any wrongdoing. And its imposible to change just one thing on the engine witout a complete redesign. Its on others to exploit the trick and catch up.
Its being reported that tgey are changing the way it's tested, and will be at heat.

My very basic reading is they have gone against the meaning of the regulations, I would be surprised if it doesn't get amended at some point.
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/merc ... melbourne/
I take anything The Race says with a whole mountain of salt.

They're a tabloid out for clicks.
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If the rumours are correct, then RBR are exploiting the same loophole.

So 6 teams have it.

No way the FIA neuters more than half the field.

Other manufacturers will have a choice. Use the additional development allowance in the new rules to develop their own and catch up, or write off the season and lobby for it to be banned for next year.

Meanwhile Merc and RBR have a whole year to work on mitigating any ban.

If I was in charge of Audi et al, I know which I'd be doing. Get our own design in the works already and introduce it as soon as allowed.
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https://www.planetf1.com/news/zak-brown ... ment-talks

“It looks like the big four are the big four. Hard to know yet in what order,” said Brown via the David Land YouTube channel, in a nod to McLaren, Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull remaining the top four teams.

“If you went to Vegas today, I think Mercedes looks like the favourite sitting here right now, but a long way to go.

“Williams didn’t make it out. Aston [Martin] only got out at the very end, so you have no idea where Williams stands.

“I think the grid will be more spread out, which is to be expected in a new formula for a little bit. So last year in Abu Dhabi, I think a second covered the entire field. I would anticipate it being two or three seconds covers the entire field, but that’s normal.”
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