2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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If they're really overweight, we probably will not see this much green.

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diffuser wrote:
10 Feb 2026, 11:22
If they're really overweight, we probably will not see this much green.
Everybody over weight at start of the season.

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Vinyl wrap isnt that heavy, and they have mandated minimum 55% paint or graphics this year. The satin green makes me think its a vinyl wrap, not paint.

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FNTC wrote:
10 Feb 2026, 12:16
Vinyl wrap isnt that heavy, and they have mandated minimum 55% paint or graphics this year. The satin green makes me think its a vinyl wrap, not paint.
Ok so we'll see 50% green or as little green as they can get away with. If it was that light, they wouldn't have mandated 55%.

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Everyone's switching to satin paint these days, and I don't understand why. Gloss paint is much nicer, and it won't make you go any faster :lol: . Even Red Bull has switched to gloss paint, like Ferrari which he hadn't done since 2018. Mercedes, on the other hand, has always maintained a polished look, not caring and giving elegance.

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diffuser wrote:
09 Feb 2026, 20:18
In the end, to your statement about the revolving door. The team has been doing poorly, not sure how it doing poorly or having incompetent leaders helps team growth? It will come down to whether we stop at Newey and if Newey is going to be an improvement. I am sure that bringing in Newey and Cardile has been a major boost to personnel moral.
Andy Cowell was highly regarded at Mercedes and has only been with the team a little more than a year. Aston Martin was in crisis with its Texas update in 2024 when Cowell first arrived. He certainly cannot be responsible for the 2025 car.

I trust Newey but he is not going to be at the team forever. All of these high-profile signings have to be given a chance to do their jobs in order to build synergy and not be undermined or have their roles downsized simply because of Newey.

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
10 Feb 2026, 11:58
diffuser wrote:
10 Feb 2026, 11:22
If they're really overweight, we probably will not see this much green.
Everybody over weight at start of the season.
Alpine is at the weight minimum.

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TyreSlip wrote:
10 Feb 2026, 20:23
diffuser wrote:
09 Feb 2026, 20:18
In the end, to your statement about the revolving door. The team has been doing poorly, not sure how it doing poorly or having incompetent leaders helps team growth? It will come down to whether we stop at Newey and if Newey is going to be an improvement. I am sure that bringing in Newey and Cardile has been a major boost to personnel moral.
Andy Cowell was highly regarded at Mercedes and has only been with the team a little more than a year. Aston Martin was in crisis with its Texas update in 2024 when Cowell first arrived. He certainly cannot be responsible for the 2025 car.

I trust Newey but he is not going to be at the team forever. All of these high-profile signings have to be given a chance to do their jobs in order to build synergy and not be undermined or have their roles downsized simply because of Newey.
Really surprised with departure rumors of Cowell.AM needs someone strong to manage 'Engine' side of integration/development. Unless they have already signed someone; loosing Cowell is going to be a big blow.

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It could simply be a clash of egos. Getting big egos to work together is not easy. Not every team can provide an environment like the one Red Bull provided for Newey. That doesn't mean that he won't setup that environment but it's just that he is probably facing a massive change with respect to gelling in a new environment.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

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Autoracer has a fresh article saying Aston is denying Cowell is leaving, but that might be semantics, since he is still employed there for now. https://autoracer.it/aston-martin-sment ... dy-cowell/

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To clarify the situation was directly Aston Martin, who clearly denied any separation hypothesis, reiterating Cowell's central role within the project. In an official statement, the team highlighted how the British engineer is fully involved in strategic activities: “Andy Cowell remains fully committed to the Aston Martin Aramco F1 team as head of the strategy, helping to optimise our technical partnerships to ensure the seamless integration of the team’s new power unit, fuel and chassis.”

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While Cowell leaving would be sad, we should not forget the Budget Cap and the very limited number of employees being excluded. Aston has quite some people on the payroll that would qualify for such a place.
BTW Is Adrian Newey as a stake owner payed with his stake and possibly outside the BC?

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BorisTheBlade wrote:
10 Feb 2026, 21:59
While Cowell leaving would be sad, we should not forget the Budget Cap and the very limited number of employees being excluded. Aston has quite some people on the payroll that would qualify for such a place.
BTW Is Adrian Newey as a stake owner payed with his stake and possibly outside the BC?
I thought about that as well a few times. He is involved in the daily business and therefore must, as I understand, be included in the budget. Though he is for sure one of few employees being excluded in terms of the cap.

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TyreSlip wrote:
10 Feb 2026, 20:23
diffuser wrote:
09 Feb 2026, 20:18
In the end, to your statement about the revolving door. The team has been doing poorly, not sure how it doing poorly or having incompetent leaders helps team growth? It will come down to whether we stop at Newey and if Newey is going to be an improvement. I am sure that bringing in Newey and Cardile has been a major boost to personnel moral.
Andy Cowell was highly regarded at Mercedes and has only been with the team a little more than a year. Aston Martin was in crisis with its Texas update in 2024 when Cowell first arrived. He certainly cannot be responsible for the 2025 car.

I trust Newey but he is not going to be at the team forever. All of these high-profile signings have to be given a chance to do their jobs in order to build synergy and not be undermined or have their roles downsized simply because of Newey.
He was but on the the PU side of the house, which is Honda for AMR26. He never did anything there on the chassis/aero side.

I presume that Cardile will take over once Newey retires. Cardile is Newey's guy but that can change.

Once Newey's cleaned house and things are working, meaning they are competitive year in year out...They go into "stage 2" ...how to keep it going without himself.

I guess like he did a RBR but with less time.
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TyreSlip wrote:
10 Feb 2026, 20:23
diffuser wrote:
09 Feb 2026, 20:18
In the end, to your statement about the revolving door. The team has been doing poorly, not sure how it doing poorly or having incompetent leaders helps team growth? It will come down to whether we stop at Newey and if Newey is going to be an improvement. I am sure that bringing in Newey and Cardile has been a major boost to personnel moral.
Andy Cowell was highly regarded at Mercedes and has only been with the team a little more than a year. Aston Martin was in crisis with its Texas update in 2024 when Cowell first arrived. He certainly cannot be responsible for the 2025 car.

I trust Newey but he is not going to be at the team forever. All of these high-profile signings have to be given a chance to do their jobs in order to build synergy and not be undermined or have their roles downsized simply because of Newey.
As of now, I see only two possibilities. Either things have gone really bad on the engine side and that was supposed to be his main utility or they are just phasing him into a different role for cost cap purposes possibly.

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peewon wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 00:39
TyreSlip wrote:
10 Feb 2026, 20:23
diffuser wrote:
09 Feb 2026, 20:18
In the end, to your statement about the revolving door. The team has been doing poorly, not sure how it doing poorly or having incompetent leaders helps team growth? It will come down to whether we stop at Newey and if Newey is going to be an improvement. I am sure that bringing in Newey and Cardile has been a major boost to personnel moral.
Andy Cowell was highly regarded at Mercedes and has only been with the team a little more than a year. Aston Martin was in crisis with its Texas update in 2024 when Cowell first arrived. He certainly cannot be responsible for the 2025 car.

I trust Newey but he is not going to be at the team forever. All of these high-profile signings have to be given a chance to do their jobs in order to build synergy and not be undermined or have their roles downsized simply because of Newey.
As of now, I see only two possibilities. Either things have gone really bad on the engine side and that was supposed to be his main utility or they are just phasing him into a different role for cost cap purposes possibly.
I wouldn't read that from that. Andy Cowell had a job at Merc in the UK on the PU side. He retired from that job a few years ago. He didn't want to do that anymore. From the interviews I saw from him, he said he came back to do something different. He was gonna leverage the CEO job to learn aero. Newey said, he didn't have the qualifications to do that and sent him off to work with Honda. We don't know if Honda needed him or wanted him. So it could be Honda didn't want him, he's back to doing what he was before and he doesn't want to do that anymore OR he doesn't want to do it Japan.

100%, he's NOT leaving cause the PU is cr@p. I'm not saying the PU is or isn't cr@p, just that Cowell doesn't seem to me to be a guy that would leave cause it's too big of a challenge.