Sandbagging is meaningless here if Mclaren were at the top with the same engine.basti313 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 22:31Or they went to the storrage and got their sandbags out again?upsidedowntoast wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 22:24Honestly considering that Merc is still having trouble with hot weather and suspension 4-5 years on....
Any of these teams could have gone out and knocked in the fastest lap of the day.upsidedowntoast wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 23:05Sandbagging is meaningless here if Mclaren were at the top with the same engine.basti313 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 22:31Or they went to the storrage and got their sandbags out again?upsidedowntoast wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 22:24Honestly considering that Merc is still having trouble with hot weather and suspension 4-5 years on....
Mercedes PU engineer can probably mandate lower engine mode, especially if it is for the greater good (avoiding a penalty).upsidedowntoast wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 23:05Sandbagging is meaningless here if Mclaren were at the top with the same engine.basti313 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 22:31Or they went to the storrage and got their sandbags out again?upsidedowntoast wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 22:24Honestly considering that Merc is still having trouble with hot weather and suspension 4-5 years on....
True, but my point is that multiple Merc people (Toto, Shovlin, and George) have gone out and admitted that they were having problems with balance, setup, and the heat. Even if they are sandbagging, it looks like those problems are real, problems which Mclaren did not report they struggled with. And on the engine front Mclaren would have just as much incentive to sandbag as Mercedes.chrisc90 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 23:08Any of these teams could have gone out and knocked in the fastest lap of the day.upsidedowntoast wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 23:05Sandbagging is meaningless here if Mclaren were at the top with the same engine.
Says nothing.
Need to dive deep into the panties, data, throttle traces to get a picture of order
It's workingFittingMechanics wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 22:46One Toto mindgame and Red Bull fans predict bigger domination than in 2023.
Are the Speed and RPM data that bad? iirc, because there are so many data points, one might still be able to extract a gear ratio from a messy sample. I might do this manually. I thought it would be interesting to compare Mclaren's gear ratios to Mercedes with same PU, and then to compare Merc PU to the others to see the preferred RPM band.Emag wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 21:23Not at the moment. I can try to estimate it but I am not sure if anything meaningful will pop out considering the low sample rate of the data.AR3-GP wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 21:17Does the insights hub calculate gear ratios?Emag wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026, 21:16https://i.postimg.cc/hG89h7Yg/Analysis-V70a9i-Xq.jpg
The "long runs" from Lando, Charles and Max today.
When you have more deployment you need longer gearsAR3-GP wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026, 01:14Are the Speed and RPM data that bad? iirc, because there are so many data points, one might still be able to extract a gear ratio from a messy sample. I might do this manually. I thought it would be interesting to compare Mclaren's gear ratios to Mercedes with same PU, and then to compare Merc PU to the others to see the preferred RPM band.
My initial hunch skimming the data is that RB has slightly longer gears than Merc/Mclaren.
Yes the team probably spent more time than anyone on their 2026 car. They had the highest windtunnel and CFD allocation. Rumor is they are very happy and are not chasing headline times. They have teething issues but it might be a very strong car when it is running.