2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

[Ufi]

So are we already back to "next year is our year"?

[dialtone]

So are we already back to "next year is our year"?

Next rule change, too late to catch up now.

[Jambier]

I disagree.
This year we will see HUGE changes in hierarchy, depending on tracks, upgrades etc...

Yes Ferrari might be last of the big four to begin, but it doesn't mean they can't catch up.
I don't see any reason to panic for now.
Season will be very long, they have time to progress.

[LM10]

I disagree.
This year we will see HUGE changes in hierarchy, depending on tracks, upgrades etc...

Yes Ferrari might be last of the big four to begin, but it doesn't mean they can't catch up.
I don't see any reason to panic for now.
Season will be very long, they have time to progress.

Dialtone, as one of the few reasonable users in this thread, was just being sarcastic. Because there is no other way to react to some of the ridiculous posts here.

[JPBD1990]

Several laps with like 5 tenths degradation. Obviously nothing to compare it to (I haven’t been following closely enough to see other teams stints)

[JPBD1990]

These telemetry lines are a dime a dozen these days and virtually useless, but in my very layperson examinations of the ones I’ve seen so far - Ferrari seems to fare favourably in minimum Apex speeds.

[Space-heat]

Lets not be too hasty in judgement here. Maybe the car has issues with slow speed corners. Or maybe they are just testing different operating windows and setup configs. Its too early to tell, especially with the new engines. Even if the car does have some slow speed cornering issues, imo its still okay, especially if the car is good in high-speed corners. Previously in a lot of seasons (2017, 2019, 2022) Ferrari have had good enough mechanical/aero setup to be good at slow speed corners but the car performance peaks out a bit early in high-speed corners, where Mercedes and Mclaren in particular outshine them.

So if the philosophy was to have the car perform its best in high speed corners and then bring performance to slow-speed ones then I am completely satisfied. One car that comes to mind is the 2018 Mercedes which was called a 'diva' with its performance in slow speed corners earlier in the season but the car excelled at high-speed ones. They then brought performance to the slow-speed corners.

Way too early, but most are reporting a "nervous rear". It could be that Ferrari expects the rear DF to be the biggest area of development in the early part of the season, once all the designs are out in the open and track data comes in. It would make sense given the change from the ground effect era. Mouse holes or not (Mcl), sidepod philosophy, diffuser, rake...etc. I just pray the suspension is good, as we are likely stuck with that for the year.

Could be just copium.

[sucof]

Was thinking about the much hailed RB recovery rate and the mentioned Leclerc lift and coast.
What would prevent others to do what Ver did, shifting way back with presumable higher rpm... Perhaps there is no advantage at RB, because "his" method most probably consumes more fuel.
Lec did lift and coast more, which does not consume more fuel... so of course RB will have more in the battery after consuming more fuel....

Regarding the trolls, it is pretty lousy regarding to you to write such comments without a single race or qualifying done... it is only saying bad about your own judgement if you troll a forum based on no real data, not about the team or the other forum members. Please stop. For your own sake.

[Fakepivot]

charles seem to have pretty good running, 62 laps, more to come.. why is he using up soo many tyre? too many lockup and flatspots?

[ryaan2904]

Lets not be too hasty in judgement here. Maybe the car has issues with slow speed corners. Or maybe they are just testing different operating windows and setup configs. Its too early to tell, especially with the new engines. Even if the car does have some slow speed cornering issues, imo its still okay, especially if the car is good in high-speed corners. Previously in a lot of seasons (2017, 2019, 2022) Ferrari have had good enough mechanical/aero setup to be good at slow speed corners but the car performance peaks out a bit early in high-speed corners, where Mercedes and Mclaren in particular outshine them.

So if the philosophy was to have the car perform its best in high speed corners and then bring performance to slow-speed ones then I am completely satisfied. One car that comes to mind is the 2018 Mercedes which was called a 'diva' with its performance in slow speed corners earlier in the season but the car excelled at high-speed ones. They then brought performance to the slow-speed corners.

Way too early, but most are reporting a "nervous rear". It could be that Ferrari expects the rear DF to be the biggest area of development in the early part of the season, once all the designs are out in the open and track data comes in. It would make sense given the change from the ground effect era. Mouse holes or not (Mcl), sidepod philosophy, diffuser, rake...etc. I just pray the suspension is good, as we are likely stuck with that for the year.

Could be just copium.

Suspension should be good enough, Ferrari have a decent track record with pushrods. If the car has pace then nervous rears are okay, but not ideal for tires.

Being a Ferrari fan is like being a Manchester United fan, the copium is always there in the background, you dont have to mention it

[Space-heat]

Lets not be too hasty in judgement here. Maybe the car has issues with slow speed corners. Or maybe they are just testing different operating windows and setup configs. Its too early to tell, especially with the new engines. Even if the car does have some slow speed cornering issues, imo its still okay, especially if the car is good in high-speed corners. Previously in a lot of seasons (2017, 2019, 2022) Ferrari have had good enough mechanical/aero setup to be good at slow speed corners but the car performance peaks out a bit early in high-speed corners, where Mercedes and Mclaren in particular outshine them.

So if the philosophy was to have the car perform its best in high speed corners and then bring performance to slow-speed ones then I am completely satisfied. One car that comes to mind is the 2018 Mercedes which was called a 'diva' with its performance in slow speed corners earlier in the season but the car excelled at high-speed ones. They then brought performance to the slow-speed corners.

Way too early, but most are reporting a "nervous rear". It could be that Ferrari expects the rear DF to be the biggest area of development in the early part of the season, once all the designs are out in the open and track data comes in. It would make sense given the change from the ground effect era. Mouse holes or not (Mcl), sidepod philosophy, diffuser, rake...etc. I just pray the suspension is good, as we are likely stuck with that for the year.

Could be just copium.

Suspension should be good enough, Ferrari have a decent track record with pushrods. If the car has pace then nervous rears are okay, but not ideal for tires.

Being a Ferrari fan is like being a Manchester United fan, the copium is always there in the background, you dont have to mention it

The F1-75, SF23 (tyre munchers) and SF25 (floor destroyer) don't inspire confidence, but hopefully. It is way too early to tell. As a Ferrari, United and Cleveland Browns fan, all I have is copium.

[JPower]

Lets not be too hasty in judgement here. Maybe the car has issues with slow speed corners. Or maybe they are just testing different operating windows and setup configs. Its too early to tell, especially with the new engines. Even if the car does have some slow speed cornering issues, imo its still okay, especially if the car is good in high-speed corners. Previously in a lot of seasons (2017, 2019, 2022) Ferrari have had good enough mechanical/aero setup to be good at slow speed corners but the car performance peaks out a bit early in high-speed corners, where Mercedes and Mclaren in particular outshine them.

So if the philosophy was to have the car perform its best in high speed corners and then bring performance to slow-speed ones then I am completely satisfied. One car that comes to mind is the 2018 Mercedes which was called a 'diva' with its performance in slow speed corners earlier in the season but the car excelled at high-speed ones. They then brought performance to the slow-speed corners.

Way too early, but most are reporting a "nervous rear". It could be that Ferrari expects the rear DF to be the biggest area of development in the early part of the season, once all the designs are out in the open and track data comes in. It would make sense given the change from the ground effect era. Mouse holes or not (Mcl), sidepod philosophy, diffuser, rake...etc. I just pray the suspension is good, as we are likely stuck with that for the year.

Could be just copium.

A lot of the handling behavior in these cars is going to be down to regen and blending that with braking and off-throttle conditions. Most of these cars are going to be sketchy until they figure out how to set them up to work with the energy systems.

[Space-heat]

Lets not be too hasty in judgement here. Maybe the car has issues with slow speed corners. Or maybe they are just testing different operating windows and setup configs. Its too early to tell, especially with the new engines. Even if the car does have some slow speed cornering issues, imo its still okay, especially if the car is good in high-speed corners. Previously in a lot of seasons (2017, 2019, 2022) Ferrari have had good enough mechanical/aero setup to be good at slow speed corners but the car performance peaks out a bit early in high-speed corners, where Mercedes and Mclaren in particular outshine them.

So if the philosophy was to have the car perform its best in high speed corners and then bring performance to slow-speed ones then I am completely satisfied. One car that comes to mind is the 2018 Mercedes which was called a 'diva' with its performance in slow speed corners earlier in the season but the car excelled at high-speed ones. They then brought performance to the slow-speed corners.

Way too early, but most are reporting a "nervous rear". It could be that Ferrari expects the rear DF to be the biggest area of development in the early part of the season, once all the designs are out in the open and track data comes in. It would make sense given the change from the ground effect era. Mouse holes or not (Mcl), sidepod philosophy, diffuser, rake...etc. I just pray the suspension is good, as we are likely stuck with that for the year.

Could be just copium.

A lot of the handling behavior in these cars is going to be down to regen and blending that with braking and off-throttle conditions. Most of these cars are going to be sketchy until they figure out how to set them up to work with the energy systems.

Kimi Antonelli looking at the other cars trackside (turn 11): "Red Bull and McLaren are well set up, the latter even last year had a super front end. Ferrari is also well set up, but it seems to have more understeer compared to the other two." - Source: https://x.com/SmilexTech/status/2021938954480603362

I hope it is a regen/deployment issue..."aggressive" parts seem to be promised for the 2nd Bahrain test so a long way before we can judge.

[Seanspeed]

charles seem to have pretty good running, 62 laps, more to come.. why is he using up soo many tyre? too many lockup and flatspots?

Quite possibly just stressing the tires on purpose. Remember testing is basically like a big research project and they're devising experiments. Not all of them(or even most of them) will be directly focused on practicing for a race.

[SoulPancake13]

Way too early, but most are reporting a "nervous rear". It could be that Ferrari expects the rear DF to be the biggest area of development in the early part of the season, once all the designs are out in the open and track data comes in. It would make sense given the change from the ground effect era. Mouse holes or not (Mcl), sidepod philosophy, diffuser, rake...etc. I just pray the suspension is good, as we are likely stuck with that for the year.

Could be just copium.

Suspension should be good enough, Ferrari have a decent track record with pushrods. If the car has pace then nervous rears are okay, but not ideal for tires.

Being a Ferrari fan is like being a Manchester United fan, the copium is always there in the background, you dont have to mention it

The F1-75, SF23 (tyre munchers) and SF25 (floor destroyer) don't inspire confidence, but hopefully. It is way too early to tell. As a Ferrari, United and Cleveland Browns fan, all I have is copium.

A bit unrelated but what copium do you have left with the Browns lol. Lived in Cleveland for a lot of my life... I'll take Ferrari over most Cleveland sports teams.