Aston Martin AMR26

[chlebekf1]

Apparently the car's aero is bad, the car is bad and difficult to drive, Adrian made a mistake

[bluechris]

Apparently the car's aero is bad, the car is bad and difficult to drive, Adrian made a mistake

Yeah, the history of Adrian says exactly this.

No one has patience this days.

[Farnborough]

Found these now, from Tobi Grüner:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HA4jHXQWIAA ... ame=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HA4jHgRbUAE ... ame=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HA4jHVIWAAA ... ame=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HA4jHhtXUAA ... ame=medium

I am more impressed by how they exhaust pipe is intermingling among the suspension parts than the pylon mounted arms.

They're all like this, in threading the exhaust out from turbo outlet to its regulated exit position, and were the same in previous regulatory design. The top of gearbox ""bellhousing" is dipped downward to allow the pipe to come out from quite low mounted turbo.

The images have very good detail of suspension component though, the "bellcrank" in quite organic design form with much material not there to make the skeleton type structure particularly well shown here.
The torsion bar location can be seen there (travelling concentric and inside the bellcrank assembly) from rear of car and almost horizontal with fairly minor inclination as it comes toward camera position, so more horizontal than vertical and probably to keep the "bottom" end up above the logical placement of diffuser design. This setup primarily driven by how narrow a space they want the gearbox to occupy in that area, hence the favoured shift to push rod and convenience to location favouring more the underfloor aerodynamic requirements.

[PlatinumZealot]

Found these now, from Tobi Grüner:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HA4jHXQWIAA ... ame=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HA4jHgRbUAE ... ame=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HA4jHVIWAAA ... ame=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HA4jHhtXUAA ... ame=medium

I am more impressed by how they exhaust pipe is intermingling among the suspension parts than the pylon mounted arms.

They're all like this, in threading the exhaust out from turbo outlet to its regulated exit position, and were the same in previous regulatory design. The top of gearbox ""bellhousing" is dipped downward to allow the pipe to come out from quite low mounted turbo.

The images have very good detail of suspension component though, the "bellcrank" in quite organic design form with much material not there to make the skeleton type structure particularly well shown here.
The torsion bar location can be seen there (travelling concentric and inside the bellcrank assembly) from rear of car and almost horizontal with fairly minor inclination as it comes toward camera position, so more horizontal than vertical and probably to keep the "bottom" end up above the logical placement of diffuser design. This setup primarily driven by how narrow a space they want the gearbox to occupy in that area, hence the favoured shift to push rod and convenience to location favouring more the underfloor aerodynamic requirements.

"they are all like this"

What a sweeping statement!

My old dusty memory recalls that most of the pushrod cars have the" upper" suspsion mechanisms fully on top of the exhaust pipe where it comes out the bellhousing. I don't recall any like this with the upper parts comingling around the exhaust barrel on top of the gearbox.

Post some evidence of suspensions like this please!

[Farnborough]

I am more impressed by how they exhaust pipe is intermingling among the suspension parts than the pylon mounted arms.

They're all like this, in threading the exhaust out from turbo outlet to its regulated exit position, and were the same in previous regulatory design. The top of gearbox ""bellhousing" is dipped downward to allow the pipe to come out from quite low mounted turbo.

The images have very good detail of suspension component though, the "bellcrank" in quite organic design form with much material not there to make the skeleton type structure particularly well shown here.
The torsion bar location can be seen there (travelling concentric and inside the bellcrank assembly) from rear of car and almost horizontal with fairly minor inclination as it comes toward camera position, so more horizontal than vertical and probably to keep the "bottom" end up above the logical placement of diffuser design. This setup primarily driven by how narrow a space they want the gearbox to occupy in that area, hence the favoured shift to push rod and convenience to location favouring more the underfloor aerodynamic requirements.

"they are all like this"

What a sweeping statement!

My old dusty memory recalls that most of the pushrod cars have the" upper" suspsion mechanisms fully on top of the exhaust pipe where it comes out the bellhousing. I don't recall any like this with the upper parts comingling around the exhaust barrel on top of the gearbox.

Post some evidence of suspensions like this please!

I think you've read my responses wrong, the first paragraph is reference to your statement about exhaust routing, clearly. And completely true.

My second paragraph, although related, doesn't reference your comments but notes "The images have very good detail of suspension component though, " going on to describe the components in the images posted in thread.

I don't have any image evidence as when I saw these elements first hand taking photographs was specifically forbidden

There's plenty in threads of last year though, if you need confirmation.

[issey]

Apparently the car's aero is bad, the car is bad and difficult to drive, Adrian made a mistake

Yeah, the history of Adrian says exactly this.

No one has patience this days.

For real They really think Newey build a shitbox

[De Wet]

Apparently the car's aero is bad, the car is bad and difficult to drive, Adrian made a mistake

Yeah, the history of Adrian says exactly this.

No one has patience this days.

For real They really think Newey build a shitbox

Did it before... The Mclaren MP4/18 never raced after spending millions on it.

Too early to say on the AMR26.

[mcjamweasel]

Apparently the car's aero is bad, the car is bad and difficult to drive, Adrian made a mistake

Yeah, the history of Adrian says exactly this.

No one has patience this days.

For real They really think Newey build a shitbox

Laughs in MP4-18.

Maybe it will come good in a couple of months, maybe he's stretched what Aston Martin can do this year, maybe Honda will let them down. It's a rough - if ambitious - start though.

[PlatinumZealot]

They're all like this, in threading the exhaust out from turbo outlet to its regulated exit position, and were the same in previous regulatory design. The top of gearbox ""bellhousing" is dipped downward to allow the pipe to come out from quite low mounted turbo.

The images have very good detail of suspension component though, the "bellcrank" in quite organic design form with much material not there to make the skeleton type structure particularly well shown here.
The torsion bar location can be seen there (travelling concentric and inside the bellcrank assembly) from rear of car and almost horizontal with fairly minor inclination as it comes toward camera position, so more horizontal than vertical and probably to keep the "bottom" end up above the logical placement of diffuser design. This setup primarily driven by how narrow a space they want the gearbox to occupy in that area, hence the favoured shift to push rod and convenience to location favouring more the underfloor aerodynamic requirements.

"they are all like this"

What a sweeping statement!

My old dusty memory recalls that most of the pushrod cars have the" upper" suspsion mechanisms fully on top of the exhaust pipe where it comes out the bellhousing. I don't recall any like this with the upper parts comingling around the exhaust barrel on top of the gearbox.

Post some evidence of suspensions like this please!

I think you've read my responses wrong, the first paragraph is reference to your statement about exhaust routing, clearly. And completely true.

My second paragraph, although related, doesn't reference your comments but notes "The images have very good detail of suspension component though, " going on to describe the components in the images posted in thread.

I don't have any image evidence as when I saw these elements first hand taking photographs was specifically forbidden

There's plenty in threads of last year though, if you need confirmation.

I believe my post in question was very clear since the topic was about the bellcrank and the related mechanisms.

[MtthsMlw]

Front wing details and adjustment



via AMS

[Farnborough]

"they are all like this"

What a sweeping statement!

My old dusty memory recalls that most of the pushrod cars have the" upper" suspsion mechanisms fully on top of the exhaust pipe where it comes out the bellhousing. I don't recall any like this with the upper parts comingling around the exhaust barrel on top of the gearbox.

Post some evidence of suspensions like this please!

I think you've read my responses wrong, the first paragraph is reference to your statement about exhaust routing, clearly. And completely true.

My second paragraph, although related, doesn't reference your comments but notes "The images have very good detail of suspension component though, " going on to describe the components in the images posted in thread.

I don't have any image evidence as when I saw these elements first hand taking photographs was specifically forbidden

There's plenty in threads of last year though, if you need confirmation.

I believe my post in question was very clear since the topic was about the bellcrank and the related mechanisms.

You named one item specifically, the exhaust pipe, that's clear. My comment of "they are all like this" is entirely true.

"Intermingling" doesn't define much, and certainly not on a technical forum.

This "What a sweeping statement! " demonstrates your own ineptness and isn't needed. A simple question asking for clarification would be appropriate.

[Avocado]

Apparently the car's aero is bad, the car is bad and difficult to drive, Adrian made a mistake

Yeah, the history of Adrian says exactly this.

No one has patience this days.

For real They really think Newey build a shitbox

I don't know how old you are, but Newey has designed mediocre cars in the past, even catastrophically bad one. He's not a god-sent magician who makes everything perfect.

[hollus]

Just a gentle reminder: winning and losing, fearmongering and finding 6 seconds a lap... put all that in the team thread.
This thead, the car thread, please keep it ONLY for car parts and how they work.
Thanks.
Deletions will happen to things that are not hardware.

[matteosc]

Front wing details and adjustment
https://img.auto-motor-und-sport.de/_/b ... 271770.jpg
[...]

Probably I am missing or misreading something, but how can the last flap rotate if it is connected with a metal bracket to the fixed flap? Or is the connection point on the pivot?

[AR3-GP]

Front wing details and adjustment
https://img.auto-motor-und-sport.de/_/b ... 271770.jpg
[...]

Probably I am missing or misreading something, but how can the last flap rotate if it is connected with a metal bracket to the fixed flap? Or is the connection point on the pivot?

The connection to the 3rd flap is hinged. The hinge is coincident with the rotation axis of the flap.