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PLUS 1- excellent postAndi76 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026, 14:21Let's be honest—people who expected something different don't really understand how F1 actually works. An engineer can be as good as he wants, but whether it's Ross Brawn, Adrian Newey, Rory Byrne, Marshall, or James Allison—everyone depends on the organization and on a team, the methodologies, technology, etc. that are available, and how good they are and how well they work. Anyone who thinks you can just put Adrian Newey at Aston Martin and suddenly they'll be beating the whole of F1 doesn't understand what it's all about and how F1 works. It took Newey over three years to get Red Bull up to speed; until then, his cars were lagging behind. Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne also needed several years at Ferrari, even though they were already competing for titles in their second year. Some people may still think of Newey at McLaren, who competed for the title and won in 1998, his first year with the team. But they forget that McLaren was already on the rise before Newey arrived and many of the concepts for the 1998 car were already well developed when he joined. (McLaren had already tested cars with a longer wheelbase of over 3000 cm in 1995, 1996 and 1997, so I honestly think it's a myth that Newey was really responsible for the long wheelbase on the MP4-13; at the very least, it would be a strange coincidence...). They were already at the top level, and Newey's input was an added bonus. Aston Martin is far from the top level, even if it has the most modern infrastructure. You also have to be able to use it efficiently and have the right organization, technical level, and know-how. AM is a long way from that, and even Adrian Newey will need time here, even if the circumstances and the latest technology will speed things up, as will other top engineers such as Cardille and Fainello. But even Brawn, Byrne, Newey, Marshall, Allison, and Costa can't just snap their fingers and suddenly be number one. And I personally think it's positive that the new generation of F1 fans are also being shown that F1 doesn't work like that and that the media-created legend of the godlike engineer who comes along and, no matter where he is, conjures up the most ingenious and fastest cars out of thin air, and where every invention comes from their ingenious pen, is once again being demonstrated for what it is – namely false. Because as important as people like Newey are, because they understand the car as a whole and how everything has to work together (while younger engineers are more specialized and lack that level of knowledge) they are not magicians who build and design every screw, every aerodynamic surface, and every wishbone themselves. It is a team of thousands of people who do this. Engineers like Newey use their knowledge to ensure that everything runs in the right direction and everything harmonizes. And ultimately, that is the skill of these people, not the design and construction of individual parts. Rather, it is providing the technology, infrastructure, methodologies and organization that makes it possible to build and develop an F1 car better (which includes the "harmony" of the car working as a "whole") and faster than the competition.hollus wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026, 13:36I think the team was fully there by the tome they showed up in Barcelona. If not, they must have realized it by now.
It seems to be the fans (this one included) that will need to accept it.
With a Newey car starting design late and new engine and new rules… it was maybe to be expected.
Not the first time a new Newey beast stutters off the start line. It often ends well?
Thank you very much!CjC wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026, 15:05PLUS 1- excellent postAndi76 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026, 14:21Let's be honest—people who expected something different don't really understand how F1 actually works. An engineer can be as good as he wants, but whether it's Ross Brawn, Adrian Newey, Rory Byrne, Marshall, or James Allison—everyone depends on the organization and on a team, the methodologies, technology, etc. that are available, and how good they are and how well they work. Anyone who thinks you can just put Adrian Newey at Aston Martin and suddenly they'll be beating the whole of F1 doesn't understand what it's all about and how F1 works. It took Newey over three years to get Red Bull up to speed; until then, his cars were lagging behind. Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne also needed several years at Ferrari, even though they were already competing for titles in their second year. Some people may still think of Newey at McLaren, who competed for the title and won in 1998, his first year with the team. But they forget that McLaren was already on the rise before Newey arrived and many of the concepts for the 1998 car were already well developed when he joined. (McLaren had already tested cars with a longer wheelbase of over 3000 cm in 1995, 1996 and 1997, so I honestly think it's a myth that Newey was really responsible for the long wheelbase on the MP4-13; at the very least, it would be a strange coincidence...). They were already at the top level, and Newey's input was an added bonus. Aston Martin is far from the top level, even if it has the most modern infrastructure. You also have to be able to use it efficiently and have the right organization, technical level, and know-how. AM is a long way from that, and even Adrian Newey will need time here, even if the circumstances and the latest technology will speed things up, as will other top engineers such as Cardille and Fainello. But even Brawn, Byrne, Newey, Marshall, Allison, and Costa can't just snap their fingers and suddenly be number one. And I personally think it's positive that the new generation of F1 fans are also being shown that F1 doesn't work like that and that the media-created legend of the godlike engineer who comes along and, no matter where he is, conjures up the most ingenious and fastest cars out of thin air, and where every invention comes from their ingenious pen, is once again being demonstrated for what it is – namely false. Because as important as people like Newey are, because they understand the car as a whole and how everything has to work together (while younger engineers are more specialized and lack that level of knowledge) they are not magicians who build and design every screw, every aerodynamic surface, and every wishbone themselves. It is a team of thousands of people who do this. Engineers like Newey use their knowledge to ensure that everything runs in the right direction and everything harmonizes. And ultimately, that is the skill of these people, not the design and construction of individual parts. Rather, it is providing the technology, infrastructure, methodologies and organization that makes it possible to build and develop an F1 car better (which includes the "harmony" of the car working as a "whole") and faster than the competition.hollus wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026, 13:36
I think the team was fully there by the tome they showed up in Barcelona. If not, they must have realized it by now.
It seems to be the fans (this one included) that will need to accept it.
With a Newey car starting design late and new engine and new rules… it was maybe to be expected.
Not the first time a new Newey beast stutters off the start line. It often ends well?
Everyone has their own opinion, but in 2023, Aston Martin was fighting for podiums right from the first races, so it was already a team ready to compete. The talent was there even before Newey arrived.They probably have the best wind tunnel and simulator in all of F1. Now they're also engine specialists and can integrate the engine with the suspension and chassis. They've taken on several other engineers, in addition to Newey. like Cardile who had already made a great chassis at Ferrari, Bob Bell and Cowell who was the guru of Mercedes engines. If your theory were true then McLaren's 2023 performance wasn't just meant to be. And in 2024 Marshall completely overhauled the team. Williams hasn't even won a single world championship since Newey, going from a resounding winner to a mediocre one in 1998. And there's more data that points to the Newey effect: all of Newey's cars (except those that haven't raced) have achieved at least one podium finish so far, and 80% have won a race so far. You'll see who have rightAndi76 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026, 14:21Let's be honest—people who expected something different don't really understand how F1 actually works. An engineer can be as good as he wants, but whether it's Ross Brawn, Adrian Newey, Rory Byrne, Marshall, or James Allison—everyone depends on the organization and on a team, the methodologies, technology, etc. that are available, and how good they are and how well they work. Anyone who thinks you can just put Adrian Newey at Aston Martin and suddenly they'll be beating the whole of F1 doesn't understand what it's all about and how F1 works. It took Newey over three years to get Red Bull up to speed; until then, his cars were lagging behind. Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne also needed several years at Ferrari, even though they were already competing for titles in their second year. Some people may still think of Newey at McLaren, who competed for the title and won in 1998, his first year with the team. But they forget that McLaren was already on the rise before Newey arrived and many of the concepts for the 1998 car were already well developed when he joined. (McLaren had already tested cars with a longer wheelbase of over 3000 cm in 1995, 1996 and 1997, so I honestly think it's a myth that Newey was really responsible for the long wheelbase on the MP4-13; at the very least, it would be a strange coincidence...). They were already at the top level, and Newey's input was an added bonus. Aston Martin is far from the top level, even if it has the most modern infrastructure. You also have to be able to use it efficiently and have the right organization, technical level, and know-how. AM is a long way from that, and even Adrian Newey will need time here, even if the circumstances and the latest technology will speed things up, as will other top engineers such as Cardille and Fainello. But even Brawn, Byrne, Newey, Marshall, Allison, and Costa can't just snap their fingers and suddenly be number one. And I personally think it's positive that the new generation of F1 fans are also being shown that F1 doesn't work like that and that the media-created legend of the godlike engineer who comes along and, no matter where he is, conjures up the most ingenious and fastest cars out of thin air, and where every invention comes from their ingenious pen, is once again being demonstrated for what it is – namely false. Because as important as people like Newey are, because they understand the car as a whole and how everything has to work together (while younger engineers are more specialized and lack that level of knowledge) they are not magicians who build and design every screw, every aerodynamic surface, and every wishbone themselves. It is a team of thousands of people who do this. Engineers like Newey use their knowledge to ensure that everything runs in the right direction and everything harmonizes. And ultimately, that is the skill of these people, not the design and construction of individual parts. Rather, it is providing the technology, infrastructure, methodologies and organization that makes it possible to build and develop an F1 car better (which includes the "harmony" of the car working as a "whole") and faster than the competition.hollus wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026, 13:36I think the team was fully there by the tome they showed up in Barcelona. If not, they must have realized it by now.
It seems to be the fans (this one included) that will need to accept it.
With a Newey car starting design late and new engine and new rules… it was maybe to be expected.
Not the first time a new Newey beast stutters off the start line. It often ends well?
Yes, I've noticed it several times in the last few days, I still suspect some kind of glitch in the suspension.
What is "false"? You didn't refute anything.diffuser wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026, 14:29False. All 2025 PU ran a presure sensor to prevent knock.mzso wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026, 14:22Perhaps. But in any way the point is moot. CR is only valid at ambient for all engines. There are no margins set on how how much it can increase when running hot. No accepted method of measuring it, and no state defined to measure it at.diffuser wrote: ↑17 Feb 2026, 18:28
I said "Except they only added “measured at ambient temperature” on Oct 2025. That’s what triggered all the protests. If you write a rule where none existed before — just to save manufacturers money and make it easier for new teams — you shouldn’t create a giant loophole that requires ten times the research and development costs to overcome compared to keeping the original no-limit CR. It’s absolute madness."
Those are all facts.
There's no basis to force Mercedes to do anything, if any of these CR rumors are true.
The wing analogy was very apt. All wings flex, without setting tolerances saying it should be rigid is meaningless and invalid.
Fact...one of the driving reason to limit CR was the cost of that sensor.
It closed, you can see it on the front facing slow-mo. But the gearbox is probably dead...
The so-called "hydraulic leak" happened. Remember Alonso qualifying in Melbourne 2022? Exactly the same thing. We need to figure out whose problem it is: the gearbox or the engine.PinkFloydPulse wrote: ↑18 Feb 2026, 15:39It closed, you can see it on the front facing slow-mo. But the gearbox is probably dead...
