2026’s Hidden Variable: Why Fuel Energy Density May Matter as Much as Aero Concept

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Re: 2026’s Hidden Variable: Why Fuel Energy Density May Matter as Much as Aero Concept

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AR3-GP wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 05:26
johnnycesup wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 03:51
autodoctor911 wrote:
19 Feb 2026, 23:24
Of course actual energy conversion rates in use can vary wildly compared to how it is measured when they submit it for testing. Ideally it will have a low energy density in the testing and approval but deliver much better specific power per volume consumed in use
I could be completely wrong, but I don't think something can produce more energy in a real situation than the GC measurement / calculation.
There can be discrepancies. The combustion changer is not the same as whatever calorimetry experiment they will arrange to identify the energy content.
Apparently they do a chromatography analysis to check components and concentrations, and then probably just do the weighed average of each component's LHV (which assumes complete and perfect combustion, so pretty much the highest value possible).

I think it's pretty impossible to get anything more than the LHV calculated that way (you'd probably need to find a way to fool the lab running the gas chromatography), and the big engineering challenge is working on combustion to get as close as possible to that LHV.

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Re: 2026’s Hidden Variable: Why Fuel Energy Density May Matter as Much as Aero Concept

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Even if you use a theoretical maximum each fuel will have a different actual energy conversion in the engine and even the same fuel will have different conversion rates in different engines. So you want the one with the most actual output energy not the one with the highest theoretical output so although we're always operating below the metric they come up with the point is still valid.

Sometimes the one with the most possible theoretical chemical energy available will have less energy transmitted to the crankshaft by a pretty healthy margin if it is not possible to get as close to that maximum output as pressure on the piston during the time needed. Another fuel will be much lower energy content but deliver that energy during combustion in a more usable way

I didn't check to see if they were measuring the energy density with a controlled experiment actually combusting it or not. If they did use a control engine or something to measure it that would actually leave a lot less room to play with than using a theoretical value.

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Re: 2026’s Hidden Variable: Why Fuel Energy Density May Matter as Much as Aero Concept

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autodoctor911 wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 07:01
Even if you use a theoretical maximum each fuel will have a different actual energy conversion in the engine and even the same fuel will have different conversion rates in different engines. So you want the one with the most actual output energy not the one with the highest theoretical output so although we're always operating below the metric they come up with the point is still valid.
It's chicken and the egg. the output energy is a function of the combustion methodology.
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