2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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We Literally at the worst possible scenario. Every single part, Battery, Mguk, Gearbox, engine has failed at least once. Good thing is PU homologation is in 10 days so if its' only reliability they can be figured out but also down on power as well. The team cannot afford to be last in Albert Park considering the sponsors and investments. So many jobs at risk simply because Honda can't figure things out.
Halo not as bad as we thought

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 10:29
A few years back the Honda engine had the same issues with Mclaren. Fans of Honda tried to pin it all to Mclaren and their very tight chassis while ridiculing different opinions from the fans of Mclaren. How the tables have turned and we were proven right when we were saying that Honda had issues fundamentally. What is their excuse this time to have gone so many steps back?
dont go and get the honda fanatics all fired up dude. this place will turn into a $%^tshow before you can say watanabe. the last thing we need is to replay the whole 2015 argument again

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Its absolute unnaceptable a Company like Honda build this disaster, meanwhile Audi, Foord(redbull) made a strong and releable PU for THE FIRST TIME. Sorry but "they start late" or whatever, they are world champions in the last seasons, they has no excuses for this state. Now all things is more clear than ever, Cowell leaved as the TP and goes to PU front because Honda messed up and they dont know what to do. Its absolute incrediable. In the 7th race nothing will be change, the PU will to be continue bad, but fiable. and thats it. I simples dont see nothing for this year. I wouldn't rule out Lawrence seeking out Mercedes again, really.

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What they mean with short stints ?

Yesterday car stopped after 5 laps.

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Nikosar wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 10:47
What they mean with short stints ?

Yesterday car stopped after 5 laps.
Box to pit lane exit

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this has to be related with the distances they are apart. it seems impossible to me that a team working together in the same area could have screwed this up so bad. maybe aston started finally getting really alarming messages from sakura at around the time cowell got re-assigned. if it took sakura that long to figure out they were in trouble, or if they honestly didnt know until they showed up for testing, thats an even bigger problem.

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Rikrikrik wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 10:43
Its absolute unnaceptable a Company like Honda build this disaster, meanwhile Audi, Foord(redbull) made a strong and releable PU for THE FIRST TIME. Sorry but "they start late" or whatever, they are world champions in the last seasons, they has no excuses for this state. Now all things is more clear than ever, Cowell leaved as the TP and goes to PU front because Honda messed up and they dont know what to do. Its absolute incrediable. In the 7th race nothing will be change, the PU will to be continue bad, but fiable. and thats it. I simples dont see nothing for this year. I wouldn't rule out Lawrence seeking out Mercedes again, really.
They won’t go back to Mercedes, even if this year turns out to be bad. The advantages from making your own PU are way too high, Honda has build good engines in the past and they will again the question is when.

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There is only on small hope in this None of the teams will bring major upgrades for the march 1 homologation considering the cost of reliability, Honda looks like is going to hail mary it as the mentioned before and they just have to hope it gives the power and reliability cause the issue they are facing now is very similar to what they faced in 2015. only that in 2015 Honda did'nt make many changes to the engine and went ahead. They have to send it and hope for the best. They cannot run this power unit in Australia.
Halo not as bad as we thought

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zoroastar wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 10:41
dont go and get the honda fanatics all fired up dude. this place will turn into a $%^tshow before you can say watanabe. the last thing we need is to replay the whole 2015 argument again
Yeah no worries. I just remembered that from back then.

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Alonso said they are problems everywhere but ones side seem open to admitting it's problems. Aston scheduled a press conference but decided to cancel it .I think it would have been a good opportunity to clear out issues and probably explain there problems so people can have clear picture.

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Honda have some time till race 7 to have a highly modified PU, I'm assuming they have probably been working on it since this first iteration has been completed. I'm expecting big improvements, and by then hopefully an updated gearbox and chassis too.

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I don't expect any points from Races 1-6, we should probably just treat them as testing sessions to start the season in race 7.

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ispano6 wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 00:15
Actually, you bring up a very important point that I was going to mention. The personalities of the drivers that Honda worked with during the Toro Rosso years were either rookies or drivers that provided good development feedback. Albon, Gasly, Hartley, and Kvyat all played an important part in the development. These guys aren't the egos of former world champions and thus they have a more level headed and measured interaction with the engineers.
There is big difference, though: Toro Rosso is a B-team (finding, training & preparing rookie talent for the A-team). Not that long ago, AM was a regular podium finisher, aim is to win races. No world champion would expect or silently tolerate this level of performance. Particulary not someone so near the end of the career, with time being crucial. And from what I've read about him (by Ferrari & other former employees), Fernando is really good at providing feedback and constructively working with teams.

Audi and AM are making the same mistake Mclaren did back then with exclusive works partnership, agree completely (50%, 66% or even less testing milleage then others means it's that much harder to progress quickly). It's understandable why it came to this situation, but still...

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Alo_Fan wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 11:15
I don't expect any points from Races 1-6, we should probably just treat them as testing sessions to start the season in race 7.
Its a VERY optimist way. I think they will need so much time to assemble all things, after this disaster during pre season i think to better thing just for 2027, or, their problems has a "easy" solutions and they just dont expected so many problems

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issey wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 11:06
Rikrikrik wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 10:43
Its absolute unnaceptable a Company like Honda build this disaster, meanwhile Audi, Foord(redbull) made a strong and releable PU for THE FIRST TIME. Sorry but "they start late" or whatever, they are world champions in the last seasons, they has no excuses for this state. Now all things is more clear than ever, Cowell leaved as the TP and goes to PU front because Honda messed up and they dont know what to do. Its absolute incrediable. In the 7th race nothing will be change, the PU will to be continue bad, but fiable. and thats it. I simples dont see nothing for this year. I wouldn't rule out Lawrence seeking out Mercedes again, really.
They won’t go back to Mercedes, even if this year turns out to be bad. The advantages from making your own PU are way too high, Honda has build good engines in the past and they will again the question is when.
i mean, its highly doubtful they would, or even could. all the PU manufacturers only have a certain amount of engines. but if they literaly wont finish a single race for the first half of the season i think all options are on the table for lawrence stroll. honda arent ready. they need to stop putting themselves into situations that make them look so bad. neither honda or aston martin will benefit from becoming the joke of the paddock for an entire year just to rush an unfinished product onto the track.