2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[Jambier]

Anyway: If they are not, then this is a good news, the engine is not at fault in terms of power. If not they can upgrade.
Reliability: It seems bad anyway, so they will have the opportunity to fix this, independently of ADUO

Well, if it's like 25 HP of a thousand then it will be something like the Alpine gap last year, without any allowance to improve on it.

If I’m correct it is 25hp of 500.
It is only about ICE, so that’s 5% and ADUO kicks in.

By the way 25hp was the rumor of Mercedes compare to others, the Honda is probably 50hp+ down.

Which will give TWO upgrades this season.
So they have to focus on a first big one for race 7 then an other one

[Alo_Fan]

I don't expect any points from Races 1-6, we should probably just treat them as testing sessions to start the season in race 7.

Its a VERY optimist way. I think they will need so much time to assemble all things, after this disaster during pre season i think to better thing just for 2027, or, their problems has a "easy" solutions and they just dont expected so many problems

Yeah, I mean from Race 7 just to be respectable and compete for good points, podiums and maybe wins at the end of the season or 2027.

[Alo_Fan]

Anyway: If they are not, then this is a good news, the engine is not at fault in terms of power. If not they can upgrade.
Reliability: It seems bad anyway, so they will have the opportunity to fix this, independently of ADUO

Well, if it's like 25 HP of a thousand then it will be something like the Alpine gap last year, without any allowance to improve on it.

If I’m correct it is 25hp of 500.
It is only about ICE, so that’s 5% and ADUO kicks in.

By the way 25hp was the rumor of Mercedes compare to others, the Honda is probably 50hp+ down.

Which will give TWO upgrades this season.
So they have to focus on a first big one for race 7 then an other one

If they can upgrade race 7 and 13 that should be pretty helpful. If they get another upgrade after race 19 that would be surprising you'd think.

[Alo_Fan]

Hope Alonso extends to have one last chance in 2027

[Miha_v]

They won’t go back to Mercedes, even if this year turns out to be bad. The advantages from making your own PU are way too high, Honda has build good engines in the past and they will again the question is when.

Not that sure about the advantage anymore, though; Mclaren just took the championship as a customer Mercedes team (ahead of the factory team).


Sorry to say, but this is a massive disappointment. 2015 fiasco happening all over again, after all the recent successes, as if nothing was learned (to prepare better ahead of time). Really feel sorry for the whole team, and particularly for Alonso; team might have years to improve the car and get to the top, he unfortunately doesn't. Any other champion would be fuming in his situation.

[Miha_v]

Hope Alonso extends to have one last chance in 2027

Me too. There just has to be a better way for such a great driver to leave the sport then this, after all the bad luck. One last chance...

[damager21]

PU issue - CHECK
Battery issue - CHECK
Electrical issue - CHECK
Gearbox issue - CHECK
Hydraulics issue - CHECK

What about other issues.... for the car needs to run on track! What a disaster this has turned out to be

[zoroastar]

pedro dela rosa is being interviewed. trying to sound reassuring haha

[Alo_Fan]

Hope Alonso extends to have one last chance in 2027

Me too. There just has to be a better way for such a great driver to leave the sport then this, after all the bad luck. One last chance...

He should act early imo, by the end of the season momentum may have shifted and people like Max or Leclerc could be interested. Sounds crazy right now, but things shift very fast, especially with such a green ruleset and lots of gains could be made from both PU and chassis side this season, its a bit different to the token system in 2015. Just look at everyone with the clown memes for McLaren in early 2023 and how they changed things around.

[hollus]

PU homologation in 10 days. How are they going to homologate a PU that has never been run on the track? Aramco hasn't received its fuel compliance either. Strange since it was said that Aramco was far ahead with the e-fuels.

Honda's only salvation now is ADUO. I doubt the PU they're going to homologate will have most of its problems fixed. I have a feeling something more serious is going on.

That's the thing as well. The ADUO PU from Race 7 won't have any track test before it is homologated. How can you homologate something that has never seen the track?

Couldn’t they run it on Fridays?

[Alo_Fan]

Honda's only salvation now is ADUO. I doubt the PU they're going to homologate will have most of its problems fixed. I have a feeling something more serious is going on.

That's the thing as well. The ADUO PU from Race 7 won't have any track test before it is homologated. How can you homologate something that has never seen the track?

Couldn’t they run it on Fridays?

No, I believe only teams that are worse than 3% from the benchmark PU can introduce a new PU from races 7, 13, 19. Otherwise they stay homologated. So I think those races are the earliest to introduce an updated power unit.

[F1NAC]

PU homologation in 10 days. How are they going to homologate a PU that has never been run on the track? Aramco hasn't received its fuel compliance either. Strange since it was said that Aramco was far ahead with the e-fuels.

Honda's only salvation now is ADUO. I doubt the PU they're going to homologate will have most of its problems fixed. I have a feeling something more serious is going on.

That's the thing as well. The ADUO PU from Race 7 won't have any track test before it is homologated. How can you homologate something that has never seen the track?

How did it work out before? They would also brought new version of PU that probably has never seen a track only benches?

[Jambier]

Also, I don't want to be pessimistic but if I remember correct when Honda presented the engine and said they were not ready yet, they also kinda said they have a plan and are working for 2027 (or was it AMR about the chassis ? )

I fear that they are working flat out at Honda for the 2027 engine knowing this one is not good, and will just add reliability patch on this one.

Hope I'm wrong

[f1Follower]

Alpine seems to be Aston Martin of last gen cars riding on Mercedes engine and focus on aero packages

[selvam_e2002]

will AMR able to complete race distance in Australia? I really doubt it.

It is same as in 2015. It will take another 3 years by the time rule will change.... I don't know the logic of Honda in F1. they came 2015 screw Mclaren for 3 years then with RB. after that they gone now came back and doing same screw job with AMR.

If they have all the engine experience with RB why they are still struggling? It does seems, all the people who worked with Honda now with RB-Ford. It is a circle 0 again for Honda.