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There was clearly a lot of time and effort spent on this wing design. For it to be discarded, or only used on certain circuits, in this cost-cap era would have to be seen as a huge screw-up! This is going to be their standard wing design or heads will roll.

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johnnycesup wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 22:04
Sbrillo88 wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 21:43
Analysis from ChronoGp


Basically they said that, there is no maximum time for the flap to rotate therefore Ferrari could lock up it in position to create a parachute during the brake.
They could really do that? I thought that there was a maximum time of 400ms.
This channel has a lot of production value, but the actual technical analysis is terrible IMO. I much prefer the autoracer people
I couldn't agree more. Chrono GP should be avoided for any technical matters. Most of it is frankly rubbish. Full of errors and nonsense.

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Andi76 wrote:
21 Feb 2026, 10:13
AR3-GP wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 08:08
One potential downside to this wing is that reducing the downforce at the rear too much could increase the tire wear on the straights. The PU has a lot of torque. You need some downforce to stop the rear wheels from slipping.
Yes and no, I would say. You're right—even on a straight line, low downforce is often more treacherous for the tread, as the wheels "dance." High downforce is more stable, but it puts so much structural stress on the tire that it can be damaged by the sheer heat. So low downforce on the straight/high downforce on the straight - something happens with the tyre one way or the other and we are, as always, talking about trade-offs.

However, even on a straight and with this wing, an F1 car will produce enough downforce to prevent this from happening, and the disadvantage in terms of tire wear (low downforce vs. thermal stress/casing) is more than offset by the advantage of higher top speeds.
If Ferrari would fine tune the deployment to suit the dynamic aero loads when the SM is activated, then everything could be optimized.
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Andi76 wrote:
21 Feb 2026, 08:59
https://postimg.cc/zbHHf9FB

I found an interesting 2D analysis of Ferrari's "upside-down" wing by Fluid Experts. On the one hand, you can see the normal, closed wing, the traditional approach of simply lowering a wing flap, and Ferrari's upside-down innovation.

Typically, a "DRS-open" configuration reduces the angle of attack of the flap to minimize the front surface area. This results in a significant loss of downforce, but the undersides of the wings still maintain low pressure. Since the wing continues to act as a downforce generator, it remains loaded by the induced drag—the physical "tax" paid for generating aerodynamic load. Essentially, the car continues to fight against its own wings even when they are "open."

Ferrari's "upside-down" innovation represents a fundamental departure from this logic. Instead of simply reducing the angle, the team experimented with rotating the flaps well beyond the horizontal plane – to angles of almost 270°. This maneuver effectively reverses the pressure gradient of the entire assembly. By flipping the flap to an extreme angle, the surface that normally creates negative pressure now becomes a high-pressure zone. This drastic change significantly reduces the suction on the main surface and shifts the wing from a state of high downforce to a state where it is overall unloaded. In some scenarios, the wing can even achieve a state of lift.

The strategic advantage here lies in the physics of induced drag, which is proportional to the square of the lift coefficient (C_z^2). By reducing the aerodynamic load to almost zero – or even to positive lift – the induced drag is almost completely eliminated, resulting in enormous speed gains that cannot be achieved with a conventional DRS. Furthermore, this "stall" effect is not limited to the wing itself. The resulting increase in pressure under the tilted flaps and the unfavorable gradient on the main surface can be used to specifically disrupt the performance of the diffuser.

By "switching off" the suction effect of the underbody on long straights, Ferrari achieves a secondary, massive reduction in the overall drag of the car. Of course, this simple 2D model cannot fully account for 3D complexities such as wing tip vortices, but the underlying principle is clear: Ferrari no longer just "opens" the wing, but aerodynamically "unlocks" the entire car to dominate the straights.

I think this 2D simulation illustrates this really clever and innovative idea interestingly. It's that kind of creative solution whose signature seems very familiar to me, and I can guess where it comes from and who came up with it.

https://postimg.cc/CnjZGk2j

https://postimg.cc/ThmWvvP4

https://postimg.cc/xc3JqGM2
Indeed, a much more realistic analysis, however I miss the effect of the monkey grill.
It is not inconcievable that the two will work together. The exhaust gasses will be very fast and reaching the wing, affecting it greatly.

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AR3-GP wrote:
21 Feb 2026, 08:50
Teams regularly developed track specific wings and cooling packages in the previous regulations.
There is way more put into this than some Monza wing.

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Brahmal wrote:
21 Feb 2026, 16:20
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Feb 2026, 08:50
Teams regularly developed track specific wings and cooling packages in the previous regulations.
There is way more put into this than some Monza wing.
Is rotating a wing really that exotic from a mechanical point of view? They put more resources into studying wing flex than they do into a simple, mechanical system that is designed to rotate a wing. If the gains are there for 3-5 GP, that is more than enough to justify it.
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I'm sure when they asked Fred about the wing he said it would be on the car for Australia or the race after.
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inox wrote:
22 Feb 2026, 12:19
2) Lift generating wing allows to set the ride height of the car lower without causing wear to the floor during the straights. Therefore the car generates more downforce in general.
Thank you for this observation, it’s pertinent given the issues last season. I love the idea that Ferrari focussed on making the philosophy work rather than build a car with taller ride height

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From what i understand, they did to few laps with that wing, in no way it gave them all the data they need. I suppose they need more time to fine tune it for the things Andi76 talk's about. They got data i suppose as matter speed gaining that we thing they got but thay need more for sure.

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Time to boost the electricity to those actuators Ferrari. That is absurdly beyond 400ms...
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That video is clearly slowed down when the wing is moving. From the videos in full speed I think the wing is opening/closing in around 250ms-300ms (14-15 frames at 50fps). I'm sure they can do it faster tho

Here's the full speed clip (skip to 1:27):

Last edited by johnnycesup on 24 Feb 2026, 07:25, edited 2 times in total.

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johnnycesup wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 07:18
Chuckjr wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 06:02
Time to boost the electricity to those actuators Ferrari. That is absurdly beyond 400ms...
Don't know if you're joking, but that video is clearly slowed down when the wing is moving. From the videos in full speed I think the wing is opening/closing in around 250ms. I'm sure they can do it faster tho
Were my thoughts too.
They are already within the regulations.

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johnnycesup wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 07:18
That video is clearly slowed down when the wing is moving. From the videos in full speed I think the wing is opening/closing in around 250ms-300ms (14-15 frames at 50fps). I'm sure they can do it faster tho

Here's the full speed clip (skip to 1:37):

Agree.
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You can see the heat haze of the exhaust above the rear wing.

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A good image to illustrate the exhaust blown effect.

Note, they are running virtually flat for rake too under dynamic load. Any static rear geometry being compressed to what is effectively a non compressing front suspension strategy.