2026 Atlassian Williams F1 Team

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Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 16:39
cecogor wrote:JV:
"...There are thousands and thousands of small details that need to be gotten right, and we haven't done it; it's as simple as that. What people see from the outside is that it's because we lost Barcelona, but there are many more details behind it,.."
"...There are a number of things we've pushed to the breaking point, and as a result, it will take us some time to recover. We have a very aggressive program for the next six months to achieve this, but it's not a matter of a week..."
Sounds like a politician: a lot of words but zero meaning.
This means that it took them a long time, and in the end, with a lot of hard work, they managed to make a big mess.

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Kick him out and bring in Horner

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AR3-GP wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 09:32
Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 08:53
James talks quite a lot. He's the guy who tries to sell sh*t as gold.
I don't understand why no one remembers that he was the head of the strat department at Mercedes when they were notoriously horrible at strategy.
They didn't need a strategy department for a large portion of their dominance. The engine was enough. Vowles' job was very easy.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

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Curious to see how Albon and Sainz go this year. Albon beating Sainz was unexpected, even though the team only seemed to have one working driver+car over the entirely of last season.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

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No one cares about head to head if they are going to be knocked out every Q1 and getting lapped twice. We were promised closing gap to top 4. Now it's behind Haas and Alpine.
Sauber Audi had to build their own gearbox and engines that is 1000 more components and yet they build two spec cars and have a radical aero concept that is different.
They are never going to catch up the top 4 in this regs that is a given. First battle is the 30
Kilos weight then adding downforce.
Heard in some podcast that Vowles is known for having long meetings with long list of items to go over yet after the meeting is finished none of those items are even addressed. That makes sense, the guy is getting exposed

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It's not all about one person but I wonder if Vowles made the same mistake Seidl made at Audi and focused too far into the future and failed to actually improve day to day.

You see it everywhere. Some people focus so much on processes that they get nothing done.

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If Vowles needs to retain his credibility, someone needs to be held accountable and heads must roll. Or Dorilton will have his...

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Everyone is talking about JV but i would look at Matt Harman and Pat Fry design philosophy.
JV:
"...There are thousands and thousands of small details that need to be gotten right, and we haven't done it; it's as simple as that. What people see from the outside is that it's because we lost Barcelona, but there are many more details behind it,.."
"...There are a number of things we've pushed to the breaking point, and as a result, it will take us some time to recover. We have a very aggressive program for the next six months to achieve this, but it's not a matter of a week..."
The communication here is very similar to alpine 24. Harman was TD, Pat Fry had already left, but the strategy looked similar : push a new chassis as far as possible, use the same chassis to develop on top on 24 and 25, in the hope to get an edge and free ressources for 26. This turned out to be catastrophic stratergy for alpine, but maybe it will work for williams this time.

Some quote from alpine 24 early season :

Bruno famin then TP :
We had to redo some tests, some homologations tests,” he said. “But I think it’s just the normal process.”

“If you pass all the tests the first time, it means that you have not been ambitious enough. So, let’s see what will be the final result, but the fact of having to redo some tests is not at all a criticism.”
“I think we will need a lot of resources to start working on the ’26 project quite early in the season, and the 2025 car might be only a mild evolution of the ’24 one.

“It was important to make a big step into 2024. We will see how fast is that.

“There are a lot of new things, and we don’t know absolutely where we are going to be on the grid. What will be important is our ability to develop the car during the season.”
Matt Harman, then TD of alpine :
We have pushed some elements to the limit and, in some cases, beyond that,”
"By applying these changes, we are giving ourselves much wider scope to add performance across the next two seasons even if there has been some compromise on reaching certain targets,
The williams technical leadership of 26 is basically the alpine of 24. And my take on this is that they prefer to take some gamble, push the boundaries far first and develop/refine it later. It seems they are not super keen on stopping in time to hit a deadline :D
ME4ME wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 23:01
It's not all about one person but I wonder if Vowles made the same mistake Seidl made at Audi and focused too far into the future and failed to actually improve day to day.
It's possible technically they aim to high and drown, hitting deadlines is also important part of project management.

This is where i would stop the comparaison, williams is in a much better position than alpine big mess of 24. And to Pat Fry credit, it did work in alpine 22/23, where what they called their "modular" chassis allowed them to sustain a pretty big development rate. They were proud about it, and with good reason.

But personally i reserve jugement of how good williams is in those regs to after the first third of the Season when they have had times to refine the concept.

Pat fry, on joining williams.
“I look back at the first three years I was there, and we improved Enstone dramatically,” Fry said. “Year on year, we built a better car -- if you put the three cars next to each other, each one was a massive step. Credit for everyone there; the various teams were collaborating a huge amount better. I think everyone there should be proud of what we achieved in those three years.

“I guess I'd gone back there with that, ‘Go back to the place you started your career and try and rebuild it’ and I think we did really well. From a distant fifth, were a solid fourth.

“But I didn't feel there was the enthusiasm or the drive to move forward beyond fourth. And I decided that from the start of March that really I want to be pushing things forward. I don't just want to sit there and not be able to do things. So for me, that was time to stop and move on, really.

“So it's one of those things -- I think as a company they almost weren't set up to push hard enough. You can say you want to be first, but the difference between saying it and achieving it is monumental, isn't it?”

“James had been talking to me for a little while, and it wasn’t until another couple of months after that, that I decided to come here," he said. "But I guess the thing that excites me about this opportunity is the board is fully on board with what it's going to take to move this place forward. They're willing to invest what it takes and support us in building a team.

“And again, it's a nice thing isn't it, to rebuild an old British icon. It's a bit like my romantic view of going back to Benetton to rebuild them, really. So it's another exciting prospect. But as I say, James is pushing hard to try and improve this place. The board is fully behind him, moving the place forward, and that's the thing that excites me. We're not going to be limited in what we can achieve. We're just going to do the best we can in the time and move things forward.”
Is there such a thing as trying too hard, beyond what is realistic ? Possibly. Romantic views have the tendency to clash with hard deadlines.
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cecogor wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 17:26
Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 16:39
cecogor wrote:JV:
"...There are thousands and thousands of small details that need to be gotten right, and we haven't done it; it's as simple as that. What people see from the outside is that it's because we lost Barcelona, but there are many more details behind it,.."
"...There are a number of things we've pushed to the breaking point, and as a result, it will take us some time to recover. We have a very aggressive program for the next six months to achieve this, but it's not a matter of a week..."
Sounds like a politician: a lot of words but zero meaning.
This means that it took them a long time, and in the end, with a lot of hard work, they managed to make a big mess.
The way he speaks makes it sound like they are attempting the impossible by building a Formula 1 car.

Chap, all you need is a base car to get through testing. Williams should be able to get that done easily.

While that car is doing laps, you have time to work on new parts.

This team should be taking the McLaren route into the season. Save resources by building a decent but unspectacular base car, and take a look at the best ideas on the best car/s.

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James Vowles is embarrassing.

"No one truly knows where all the performance lies,"

"What I know for sure, though, is we have work to do." - I guess at Williams were having tea parties instead of working

"We've put ourselves on the back foot." More like JV did

"But my assurance to everyone is that we have an aggressive programme lining up in front of us in order to make sure that we extract as much performance in this car as possible over the forthcoming months." What is aggressive work and regular work in F1, is there any team aiming for anything less?

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Williams has been more of a letdown performance wise than AM since I figured AM would have some teething issues.
Honda!

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dren wrote:
23 Feb 2026, 22:08
Williams has been more of a letdown performance wise than AM since I figured AM would have some teething issues.
I dunno man, AM look absolutely calamitous. Will they even make half race distance in Australia? Williams are just kinda disappointing.
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Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 16:39
cecogor wrote:JV:
"...There are thousands and thousands of small details that need to be gotten right, and we haven't done it; it's as simple as that. What people see from the outside is that it's because we lost Barcelona, but there are many more details behind it,.."
"...There are a number of things we've pushed to the breaking point, and as a result, it will take us some time to recover. We have a very aggressive program for the next six months to achieve this, but it's not a matter of a week..."
Sounds like a politician: a lot of words but zero meaning.
This is basically every team/driver response to a question ever in F1. They basically never give substantive details about anything.

It's one of the most frustrating parts of this sport. It's so incredibly secretive.

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if Audi do a decent job, I wouldn't be surprised if Carlos tries to make the move many expected him to make last year instead of Williams. At least Audi is a works team with more money etc....

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Seanspeed wrote:
23 Feb 2026, 23:07
Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
20 Feb 2026, 16:39
cecogor wrote:JV:
"...There are thousands and thousands of small details that need to be gotten right, and we haven't done it; it's as simple as that. What people see from the outside is that it's because we lost Barcelona, but there are many more details behind it,.."
"...There are a number of things we've pushed to the breaking point, and as a result, it will take us some time to recover. We have a very aggressive program for the next six months to achieve this, but it's not a matter of a week..."
Sounds like a politician: a lot of words but zero meaning.
This is basically every team/driver response to a question ever in F1. They basically never give substantive details about anything.

It's one of the most frustrating parts of this sport. It's so incredibly secretive.
In general, yes but this bit :
There are a number of things we've pushed to the breaking point, and as a result, it will take us some time to recover.
Is F1 talk for 'we screw up the direction, didn't realise until it was too late and have no b spec in the pipe'