2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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bluechris wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:03
DarthToto-Ferrari 2-0 so far (Engine inspection in 6 months and starting procedure). Maybe it will be 3-0 if they cannot homologate the fuel of MB before Melbourne and they will get an extension.

No words....
That man is a poison for the sport.
With TD39 it was the same ---, and it backfired for them.
This ruleset worst action is IMO the “at room temperature” detail, added when all engines were already at bench.
Maybe regulations should prohibit TPs from being shareholders?

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Frank73 wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 10:29
LM10 wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 09:46
Badger wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 08:56

The FIA will add 5 seconds to the start sequence, and also removed the use of SLM down to turn one. These are all safety aspects and Ferrari has no power to veto any of it. This is the correct decision for safety and fairness. https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/f1-t ... ety-fears/

But if we take your word for it, does this mean Ferrari has already suffered its first critical loss of 2026?
Fairness? Seriously, which fairness are you talking about? Ferrari's advantage at the start didn't fall from the sky. They worked hard for that.

Mercedes already gifted two major things:
1. they're allowed to keep their illegal engine and 2. the starting procedure will change

Ferrari, having built the best or at the very least the most interesting car engineering wise, will be thrown under the bus once again.
After being the team warning the FIA and seeking for a change to the starting procedure WAY before, other teams obviously were too short-sighted (or too busy building an illegal engine) and did not agree on a change to the starting procedure. Ferrari then built their PU to best accomodate these conditions (and probably sacrificed performance in some other aspect), but will keep no or very little advantage? What a damn clown show.

"Safety aspects" - LMAO. Wasn't this clear from the beginning? What about all the resources spent by Ferrari? How are they gonna get compensated? Why is Mercedes allowed to keep their PU because as per Tombazis they spent time designing their PU, but in case of Ferrari no one cares, because "safety". Same old story with TD39 when it was because of "safety" too.
Same old story. Over and over since 2014. Mercedes having FIA in their pocket obtain regulation changes to cover their weakness and veto regulation enforcement that would expose their cheat. What a farce. I think that Audi is already regretting putting so much money into these maFIA ruled formula1.
Why would you need vetoing power when the FIA does it for you every time? :D

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LM10 wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:11
Badger wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 10:28
We can’t let the competitive interests of one team go before the health and safety of the drivers. We don’t want big crashes at the start stemming from huge speed deltas. That’s something I hope even the most partial posters on here would agree with. It’s also fair that everyone gets a chance to spool their turbo regardless of where they start on the grid.

Ferrari could foresee the problems but they could not foresee that the FIA would be forced to make changes on safety grounds before the season, other manufacturers clearly bet on that. I’m sorry to say it but Fred tried to get cute and got outsmarted by the Totonator.
Reading the bold part, it feels like I’m talking to your crush “Totonator”. Amazing.

Seems like Max does not care about his own safety and health as much as you do. Redbull does not have the Ferrari PU and was among the bad starters in testing. Yet, Max said that those who’re afraid should start from the pit lane. You can say whatever you want about him, but he’s a person with backbone in such regards.
No need to get personal, it’s only F1.

Max can have his opinion, the FIA is responsible for safety and must take a more conservative approach. If anything happens they will be held responsible, not Max nor any other daredevil driver.

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Badger wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:28
LM10 wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:11
Badger wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 10:28
We can’t let the competitive interests of one team go before the health and safety of the drivers. We don’t want big crashes at the start stemming from huge speed deltas. That’s something I hope even the most partial posters on here would agree with. It’s also fair that everyone gets a chance to spool their turbo regardless of where they start on the grid.

Ferrari could foresee the problems but they could not foresee that the FIA would be forced to make changes on safety grounds before the season, other manufacturers clearly bet on that. I’m sorry to say it but Fred tried to get cute and got outsmarted by the Totonator.
Reading the bold part, it feels like I’m talking to your crush “Totonator”. Amazing.

Seems like Max does not care about his own safety and health as much as you do. Redbull does not have the Ferrari PU and was among the bad starters in testing. Yet, Max said that those who’re afraid should start from the pit lane. You can say whatever you want about him, but he’s a person with backbone in such regards.
No need to get personal, it’s only F1.

Max can have his opinion, the FIA is responsible for safety and must take a more conservative approach. If anything happens they will be held responsible, not Max nor any other daredevil driver.
You know what's even safer? Not to race.
Sempre Forza Ferrari

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LM10 wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:30
Badger wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:28
LM10 wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:11


Reading the bold part, it feels like I’m talking to your crush “Totonator”. Amazing.

Seems like Max does not care about his own safety and health as much as you do. Redbull does not have the Ferrari PU and was among the bad starters in testing. Yet, Max said that those who’re afraid should start from the pit lane. You can say whatever you want about him, but he’s a person with backbone in such regards.
No need to get personal, it’s only F1.

Max can have his opinion, the FIA is responsible for safety and must take a more conservative approach. If anything happens they will be held responsible, not Max nor any other daredevil driver.
You know what's even safer? Not to race.
Your comment seems to imply that safety is not important. I can’t go with you knowing how many drivers used to be killed in this sport. Personally I prefer adopting reasonable safety standards and not letting the competitive interests of one team overrule legitimate safety concerns.

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Badger wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:42
LM10 wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:30
Badger wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:28

No need to get personal, it’s only F1.

Max can have his opinion, the FIA is responsible for safety and must take a more conservative approach. If anything happens they will be held responsible, not Max nor any other daredevil driver.
You know what's even safer? Not to race.
Your comment seems to imply that safety is not important. I can’t go with you knowing how many drivers used to be killed in this sport. Personally I prefer adopting reasonable safety standards and not letting the competitive interests of one team overrule legitimate safety concerns.
You would be naive for thinking that the FIA did not know that from the beginning or at the very latest when Ferrari warned them. The FIA has endless tools and simulations and it's hard to believe they didn't predict that. Even a random street racer would tell you the consequences of turbo lag.

So my question is, why was it not a safety concern when Ferrari told them it might be, but it's a safety concern now?
Sempre Forza Ferrari

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LM10 wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:57
So my question is, why was it not a safety concern when Ferrari told them it might be, but it's a safety concern now?
For the same reason why Totonator has camera-bomber-sheikh in his pocket.

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LM10 wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:57
Badger wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:42
LM10 wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:30


You know what's even safer? Not to race.
Your comment seems to imply that safety is not important. I can’t go with you knowing how many drivers used to be killed in this sport. Personally I prefer adopting reasonable safety standards and not letting the competitive interests of one team overrule legitimate safety concerns.
You would be naive for thinking that the FIA did not know that from the beginning or at the very latest when Ferrari warned them. The FIA has endless tools and simulations and it's hard to believe they didn't predict that. Even a random street racer would tell you the consequences of turbo lag.

So my question is, why was it not a safety concern when Ferrari told them it might be, but it's a safety concern now?
Credit to Ferrari for having identified the problem early in the cycle, earlier than other manufacturers. It was stupid of FIA to have not paid attention to Ferrari's concerns. Now that the safety concern has manifested, it would be foolish not to address it. Ignoring it now, because Ferrari wouldn't want it or Ferrari fans wouldn't want, after having ignored earlier, is not the way to run the sport.

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LM10 wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:57
Badger wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:42
LM10 wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 11:30


You know what's even safer? Not to race.
Your comment seems to imply that safety is not important. I can’t go with you knowing how many drivers used to be killed in this sport. Personally I prefer adopting reasonable safety standards and not letting the competitive interests of one team overrule legitimate safety concerns.
You would be naive for thinking that the FIA did not know that from the beginning or at the very latest when Ferrari warned them. The FIA has endless tools and simulations and it's hard to believe they didn't predict that. Even a random street racer would tell you the consequences of turbo lag.

So my question is, why was it not a safety concern when Ferrari told them it might be, but it's a safety concern now?
It’s an interesting question, but from a safety perspective entirely irrelevant. The FIA could clearly identify a safety issue in testing and they acted. Failing to foresee exactly how it would play out with the previous starting procedure is not an excuse to do nothing now. There’s always an element of tweaking the rules once you have cars on track and you can see exactly how they work.

Having huge speed deltas with cars potentially stalling on the grid because they don’t have enough time to build boost pressure is just not acceptable from a safety standpoint. F1 cars are designed to hit barriers at high speed, they are not designed to spear one another. I don’t want another Billy Monger or Antoine Hubert type incident, and adding 5 seconds to the starting procedure seems like a very small concession to make to reduce the chance of something like that happening. Ferrari will survive.

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Badger wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 10:28
We can’t let the competitive interests of one team go before the health and safety of the drivers. We don’t want big crashes at the start stemming from huge speed deltas. That’s something I hope even the most partial posters on here would agree with. It’s also fair that everyone gets a chance to spool their turbo regardless of where they start on the grid.

How about the 107% rule? Maybe they should change that too, so we can have all the kids play and no one will be excluded. It's a show after all...
Or maybe, if it is such a safety issue? Then the teams that can't start quickly enough should start from the pit lane until the sort their start.

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You guys need to have a breather and go outside - smell the breeze.

This is not something to be so throughly wound up by.

Wind in the personal, the profane and let's have some respect.
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Badger wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 10:28
We can’t let the competitive interests of one team go before the health and safety of the drivers. We don’t want big crashes at the start stemming from huge speed deltas. That’s something I hope even the most partial posters on here would agree with. It’s also fair that everyone gets a chance to spool their turbo regardless of where they start on the grid.

Ferrari could foresee the problems but they could not foresee that the FIA would be forced to make changes on safety grounds before the season, other manufacturers clearly bet on that. I’m sorry to say it but Fred tried to get cute and got outsmarted by the Totonator.
"Change your f****** car" to quote Horner.

Merc/Audi allegedly went for a bigger turbo that will help them in the race. If they have an issue with the starts because of their design, they should be the ones to change.

The issue was raised a year ago and ignored. The drives already said it isn't unsafe (Max and Lewis). The 5-second warning seems like a compromise which Fred was fine with. I doubt Ferrari made their decision based only on starts (it seems like it helps on corner exit (see Fred Albano analysis)). It will be interesting to see how the race plays out in the first few races.

Looking forward to the vote on the CR. At least the Race will shut up about it then.

Also, if the Merc PU is a dominating factor, my money would be on McL, they have been clear of Merc the past 18 months, and I'd back them (regardless of engine manufacturer having a head start on energy).

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Surely the extra 5 seconds only affects the last few rows of the grid, everyone else has loads of time to spool up the turbo.

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Badger wrote:
24 Feb 2026, 10:28
We can’t let the competitive interests of one team go before the health and safety of the drivers. We don’t want big crashes at the start stemming from huge speed deltas. That’s something I hope even the most partial posters on here would agree with. It’s also fair that everyone gets a chance to spool their turbo regardless of where they start on the grid.

Ferrari could foresee the problems but they could not foresee that the FIA would be forced to make changes on safety grounds before the season, other manufacturers clearly bet on that. I’m sorry to say it but Fred tried to get cute and got outsmarted by the Totonator.
It seems to me the other teams perfectly well knew about these problems and could 'foresee' this issue too, and took advantage of that to complain right before the season started, making the FIA panic over safety fearmongering from the teams, letting them get away with ignoring the problem on the technical side and neutering the advantage of anybody who actually worked to improve their situation with starts.

EDIT: Also, if FIA do decide to change to reduce electrical power, that will further help Mercedes use their engine advantage, since they'll have proportionally more ICE power than electrical power than currently. Would be a 3rd important win for Mercedes before we've even run a lap.

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Another perspective is that the fast start is a built in advantage all season. Even with a 5 extra seconds, there's still a chance at another team that it's not enough every now and then.

Or they're caught out under SC, or in the pits.