2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[diffuser]

No honda came out and made a public statement about the problems so that people stop making --- up.its not about what I believe. Merc covering large numbers of laps on spec 1 pu doesn't change the fact that the second spec engine that only mercedes ran had problems .

And nothing about their statement indicated that the problem was only on Aston's side, as you suggested.

For instance, if the cause were pinpointed to something like the transmission or the engine, it would be much easier to tackle. However, I suspect multiple components are interacting to generate the vibration. Given that, it's unclear whether fixing one part alone will resolve it, so we can't rule out the possibility of this dragging on. That said, purely in terms of determination, I'm absolutely intent on fixing it quickly

I'm aiming to reduce the vibration before the season opener, but I intend to get the car into a competitive state before Suzuka.

No it didn't say that .I said honda pu has no realibity problems as of now which is logical since it was running detuned most of the time.the vibration enamate from battery mounting points but I haven't seen any report from Honda that say it is caused by pu

They didn’t say the vibration emanated from the battery. They said it was affecting only the battery. The way I understood it was that the vibration was at a certain harmonic that didn’t sound like anything abnormal in the car but was at the right frequency to cause the battery to fall apart. My understanding was that it wasn’t just the battery internals falling apart, but the casing as well.

[Badger]

No honda came out and made a public statement about the problems so that people stop making --- up.its not about what I believe. Merc covering large numbers of laps on spec 1 pu doesn't change the fact that the second spec engine that only mercedes ran had problems .

And nothing about their statement indicated that the problem was only on Aston's side, as you suggested.

For instance, if the cause were pinpointed to something like the transmission or the engine, it would be much easier to tackle. However, I suspect multiple components are interacting to generate the vibration. Given that, it's unclear whether fixing one part alone will resolve it, so we can't rule out the possibility of this dragging on. That said, purely in terms of determination, I'm absolutely intent on fixing it quickly

I'm aiming to reduce the vibration before the season opener, but I intend to get the car into a competitive state before Suzuka.

No it didn't say that .I said honda pu has no realibity problems as of now which is logical since it was running detuned most of the time.the vibration enamate from battery mounting points but I haven't seen any report from Honda that say it is caused by pu

Sure it does. PU reliability issues don't just come in the form of ICE explosions with smoke coming out the back, those have been rare for a long time. Vibrations causing the battery to disintegrate is a textbook PU reliability issue.

[diffuser]

And nothing about their statement indicated that the problem was only on Aston's side, as you suggested.

No it didn't say that .I said honda pu has no realibity problems as of now which is logical since it was running detuned most of the time.the vibration enamate from battery mounting points but I haven't seen any report from Honda that say it is caused by pu

Sure it does. PU reliability issues don't just come in the form of ICE explosions with smoke coming out the back, those have been rare for a long time. Vibrations causing the battery to disintegrate is a textbook PU reliability issue.

It is my understanding that the ICE didn't have any problems. They didn't rev it beyond 11k often cause the vibrations were killing the battery. It wasn't that they were purposely keeping he revs down cause the ICE would harm itself.

I don't think that between now and Friday, 50 hrs from now, that anybody is gonna be able to tell us anymore about how bad or not so bad the weekend will be. We'll just have to wait.

They'll probably have a plan A and a plan B, where plan B will be to severally under power the PU to get through the weekend. As part of Part A they might have a couple of different mitigating plans.

[FW17]

So in general how much clearance is in between the engine and the monocoque?

[diffuser]

So in general how much clearance is in between the engine and the monocoque?

ZERO. The ICE is bolted to the monocoque.


Have you not seen images ...

[FW17]

So in general how much clearance is in between the engine and the monocoque?

ZERO. The ICE is bolted to the monocoque.


Have you not seen images ...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HAduQeWXkAA ... name=large

That does not mean the engine front face is on the back of the monocoque

[FNTC]

I think the (almost?) non existent space between the engine and the orange battery there is an issue too. It doesn't seem well insulated from ICE vibrations.

[AR3-GP]

By shortening the battery, the entire battery is brought closer to the ICE. The MGU-K is also now alongside the battery where it was previously alongside the ICE. All of these packaging changes could cause more vibrations to reach to the battery.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

Honda has only one team to serve. How on earth can they have a spare part problem?

[FNTC]

They probably expected a battery pack to last for a very long time and then shook several of them to pieces...

[diffuser]

So in general how much clearance is in between the engine and the monocoque?

ZERO. The ICE is bolted to the monocoque.


Have you not seen images ...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HAduQeWXkAA ... name=large

That does not mean the engine front face is on the back of the monocoque

Maybe we're not understanding each other. That yellow highlighted thing screws into the monocoque, also called the driver’s survival cell or carbon tub. The regs require the batteries be inside the survival cell.

[Jaymz]

I think one of Honda's problem is they are too proud to say "no we can't do that". They have been through a baptism of fire with Podromu and McLaren now Newey and AM. I don't know who the BAR designer was. I think Honda would be better with their own chassis and engine, which would be so cool. I love Honda white. Championship White I think it's called?

[nmarques71]

It´s better forget this year, excellent article (if true) from Autosport JP, taken from Reddit/autosport forum

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... honda_are/

[V10FURY]

merc on the other hand had 2 pu failers on latest spec but you wont know that reading new

Compression ratio was the far bigger story about Merc.

It was the story before testing but after testing the are lot of stories to report to rather nonstop honda smear campaign. Compression ratio trick give an estimate of 10 to 15 hp so it's not game changer that we were lead to believe , so why believe media now

15 horsepower and running around 1.5% less fuel, with a better spooling turbo might add up to around .2 to .3 seconds a lap. Not a huge difference, but over a 60 lap race that is a full pit stop ahead. I am glad they moved the testing up to June 1st to curtail this potential advantage quicker.

[Bence]

If a detuned engine/PU can keep up with the Ferrari, according to the GPS data, then it shows that the hardware must be good. It is very likely, that the battery is also good by itself. But if there is a harmonic resonance catastrophe, the entire picture is skewed. Add some thermic shock to the recipe, just for a bit of umami. And we only get distorted informations based on morsels of leaked infos without the proper context. If the cohesion and the balance gets established between the components, suddenly we are gonna see the truth.