2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[Mattchu]

Personally I think Newey is coming out with all this "health of the drivers" stuff in the knowledge that some of the PU parts can only be modified in certain circumstances.
This makes it much more likely that any "reliability" fixes which are applied in the coming weeks/months will be approved by the FIA and the other teams.
Would Mercedes, Ferrari or anyone else say no (to PU fixes) if Honda/the FIA says it`s done for the safety of said drivers!

Clever...

[AR3-GP]

Personally I think Newey is coming out with all this "health of the drivers" stuff in the knowledge that some of the PU parts can only be modified in certain circumstances.
This makes it much more likely that any "reliability" fixes which are applied in the coming weeks/months will be approved by the FIA and the other teams.
Would Mercedes, Ferrari or anyone else say no (to PU fixes) if Honda/the FIA says it`s done for the safety of said drivers!

Clever...

The battery fails and parts of the car fall off because of the vibrations. I feel that is proof enough. Also ADUO is the only way to get more budget cap. You can do reliability tweaks outside of this, but the budget cap stays the same unless you also qualify for ADUO. This first part of the year is a write off so Honda might as well make sure they are more than 4% away to qualify for ADUO.

[FNTC]

Can you trigger ADUO by running detuned and not to full potential? I doubt it, that would be a gigantic loophole.

[AR3-GP]

Can you trigger ADUO by running detuned and not to full potential? I doubt it, that would be a gigantic loophole.

It would only be a loophole if there were no consequences. Running detuned means you are slower in the races. You would have to be slow in 7 races.

[diffuser]

So they will go for 20 laps at Melbourne.
Or just do 2 laps and retire?

They're gonna switch drivers at pitstops.

[FW17]

Andrew Benson-article: https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/arti ... ykk74re1ro

Excerpt:

So Honda brought in solution to protect the battery from the vibrations.

Newey and AMR were twiddling their thumbs, not protecting the steering wheel, seat or the pedals for the driver.

Just like live with a stiff car, live with vibrations, it was probably a design feature of Neweys to get more downforce and less drag to make the car go faster.

- steering wheel, engine, seat and pedals have to be stiffly fitted to chassis. Maybe you can play with aero surfaces pylons and suspension attachmentd, but the elements you mentioned make no sense at all.
- isn't getting more downforce, less drag and, hence, going faster the leit motiv of a race car?
- when you have a problem is better to patch around or solving the source? Apart from the tarmac irregularities, there are no more vibration sources than the engine and the gearbox.

Aston was not bothered in bringing a better cushion and isolator pads for the seat and steering wheel and column

[ScottB]

Personally I think Newey is coming out with all this "health of the drivers" stuff in the knowledge that some of the PU parts can only be modified in certain circumstances.
This makes it much more likely that any "reliability" fixes which are applied in the coming weeks/months will be approved by the FIA and the other teams.
Would Mercedes, Ferrari or anyone else say no (to PU fixes) if Honda/the FIA says it`s done for the safety of said drivers!

Clever...

Not sure that's the case, given all the negative blowback that's going to come from it, versus just saying the gearbox isn't very good etc.

Hell he's basically said the car isn't safe to drive. The FIA really should be taking a look at that...

[FNTC]

[FrukostScones]

So they will go for 20 laps at Melbourne.
Or just do 2 laps and retire?

AMUS said ALO might be able to do 25 and STR could last only 15.

Everyone guesses the laps Aston will e able to do and winner will crowned here in the thread.

[diffuser]

So Honda brought in solution to protect the battery from the vibrations.

Newey and AMR were twiddling their thumbs, not protecting the steering wheel, seat or the pedals for the driver.

Just like live with a stiff car, live with vibrations, it was probably a design feature of Neweys to get more downforce and less drag to make the car go faster.

- steering wheel, engine, seat and pedals have to be stiffly fitted to chassis. Maybe you can play with aero surfaces pylons and suspension attachmentd, but the elements you mentioned make no sense at all.
- isn't getting more downforce, less drag and, hence, going faster the leit motiv of a race car?
- when you have a problem is better to patch around or solving the source? Apart from the tarmac irregularities, there are no more vibration sources than the engine and the gearbox.

Aston was not bothered in bringing a better cushion and isolator pads for the seat and steering wheel and column

They're gonna bubble wrap the seat and steering wheel and the pedals.

Not sure how They're gonna drive with no feel.

AN asks Alonso, how did turn 10 feel? Strange, it felt like I was on bubble wrap! When I hit a big bump. I HEAR A BIG POP!

[AR3-GP]

Lawrence Barretto confirms that the latest patches to the Honda engine aim to ensure that, if they work, the battery can last the entire race, allowing for data collection and pinpointing the root cause of the vibration.

The battery patch is there to make sure they can run long enough to figure out where the vibration comes from, and to avoid eating through the PU allocation. (3 ES per season before penalties)

[FW17]

- steering wheel, engine, seat and pedals have to be stiffly fitted to chassis. Maybe you can play with aero surfaces pylons and suspension attachmentd, but the elements you mentioned make no sense at all.
- isn't getting more downforce, less drag and, hence, going faster the leit motiv of a race car?
- when you have a problem is better to patch around or solving the source? Apart from the tarmac irregularities, there are no more vibration sources than the engine and the gearbox.

Aston was not bothered in bringing a better cushion and isolator pads for the seat and steering wheel and column

They're gonna bubble wrap the seat and steering wheel and the pedals.

Not sure how They're gonna drive with no feel.

AN asks Alonso, how did turn 10 feel? Strange, it felt like I was on bubble wrap! When I hit a big bump. I HEAR A BIG POP!

Thats what Honda did, AMR did even do that

[vorticism]

"car will look very different in Melbourne"

Well.

[AR3-GP]

"car will look very different in Melbourne"

Well.

No point showing your tricks when you won't even be able to use them. Just gives others time to study it before you get to take advantage of it.

[diffuser]

Aston was not bothered in bringing a better cushion and isolator pads for the seat and steering wheel and column

They're gonna bubble wrap the seat and steering wheel and the pedals.

Not sure how They're gonna drive with no feel.

AN asks Alonso, how did turn 10 feel? Strange, it felt like I was on bubble wrap! When I hit a big bump. I HEAR A BIG POP!

Thats what Honda did, AMR did even do that

The thing is, you can isolate the battery from the chassis. The ICE is part of the chassis. It connects the monocoque to the rear wheels. How do you dampen that without creating flex that later becomes a handling problem? The drivers need the steering wheel, pedals and seat to feel the road and drive the car to the limit.

AN isn't a rookie designer, he know what to expect from the PU and what not to expect.