2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Emag wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 08:56
AR3-GP wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 08:54
Emag wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 08:18

I wasn't being specific enough, but yes the first big straight is probably just drag + better exit out of T6 compared to others. RB seems to have similar levels of drag but Russell is getting a better exit out of T6.

The next straight though, after T10, that's where you can see a deployment difference with RBPT.
I'm not sure that I see it. The difference in speed at T9 is the same as the difference just before T11. So it doesn't indicate a deployment advantage. It just looks like Russell carried more speed and maintained it. Hidden in all of this is the fact that Mercedes combustion engine has an advantage over RBPT but I don't know how to quantify that.

https://i.postimg.cc/76xFQtjC/image.png
Even there I see the same thing to be honest. Seems like Mercedes can clip later in the straight and then have more top-end in the following straight after T10.
Okay looking again, I do see they are clipping slightly earlier. However what we don't know is how much comes from aero efficiency allowing them to save more energy, and how much the PU itself is generating more.
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bluechris wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 08:39
Juzh wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 08:34
Great job Hadjar but it's gonna be a depressing season.
I really like his driving, great ability this guy has. I don't know if his is a much to Verstapen which is a bit difficult for anyone in the grid but i believe he is the best pairing to Max from all the rest that he had.
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Finally got a decent #2 on this team. Great to see. =D>
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Max said hes not having fun with these cars and that formula is just not correct,this seemed to be an interview right after he crashed so maybe emotions were high but yea, hes said this before. Also talked about the crash

https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verst ... ot-correct

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Luscion wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:22
Max said hes not having fun with these cars and that formula is just not correct,this seemed to be an interview right after he crashed so maybe emotions were high but yea, hes said this before. Also talked about the crash

https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verst ... ot-correct

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my god what have they done to this sport.
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Keep this in mind:

Hadjar
"I'm just basing this on what I saw in testing, and at the moment, it seems like we have a good race car, which is what matters," Hadjar stated to GPblog and others in Melbourne.
"I think on one lap pace, I don't think we are special. That might be a bit tricky.

Red Bull has a very efficient energy recovery system. In the race you are allowed to harvest more (8MJ). Cars are also heavier so you use more energy on the straights. It makes the gap between the efficient and inefficient cars grow.
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This is utterly pathetic and simply wrong formula on so many levels. One doesn’t have to be Max to see that. Formula 1 has been heading south consistently for years, if not decades. This set seems to be the final nail in the coffin. Verstappen was the one who brought the excitement back making F1 worth following again despite everything when he arrived and became a breath of fresh air. Part of me wishes he retires, as he is the last the only real reason I stay in touch and follow this current F1 which has become borderline unwatchable over the past three years, despite him winning a lot. Would be an opportunity to free up lots of time for other hobbies, until something changes around 2030 finally, hopefully.

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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:29
Luscion wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:22
Max said hes not having fun with these cars and that formula is just not correct,this seemed to be an interview right after he crashed so maybe emotions were high but yea, hes said this before. Also talked about the crash

https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verst ... ot-correct

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my god what have they done to this sport.
butchered it by the looks of things, drivers were warning the fia about these regs and they didnt listen, now we have this

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Wache might be coping more than Red bull fans with that 0.3s deficit estimate.

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euv2 wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:48


Wache might be coping more than Red bull fans with that 0.3s deficit estimate.
It doesn't have to be cope. VCARB is too close to Hadjar compared to Bahrain. The power unit works really here. There would have been 4 RBPT cars in the top 10.
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F1 has not been heading south for decades, it was in a great place only a few months ago, better than it ever has been I would argue. What has happened is they have made a massive mistake by abandoning the principles of racing in favour of pandering to politics with this new regulation. Car racing is inherently excessive and inefficient, that's what makes it entertaining to watch. Once you compromise that to make it into an "eco-formula" you've lost the plot. We don't watch Verstappen and Co. to see them drive like we drive our own cars.

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avantman wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:35
This is utterly pathetic and simply wrong formula on so many levels. One doesn’t have to be Max to see that. Formula 1 has been heading south consistently for years, if not decades. This set seems to be the final nail in the coffin. Verstappen was the one who brought the excitement back making F1 worth following again despite everything when he arrived and became a breath of fresh air. Part of me wishes he retires, as he is the last the only real reason I stay in touch and follow this current F1 which has become borderline unwatchable over the past three years, despite him winning a lot. Would be an opportunity to free up lots of time for other hobbies, until something changes around 2030 finally, hopefully.
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I'd agree. It was fine last year. They finally killed it with this energy arcade game.
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A big shame for Max, cant believe we would have been at least p3,p4 with both cars, we are the second fastest team… Very sad about today, now he should start from the pitlane. Hadjar did his job very good. The rules are a big joke, I will not wake up tomorrow for this, will just watch highlights. This is not f1 anymore, its just a arcade battery management.
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The data suggest that RB has the 2nd best power unit. Incredible.
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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:50
euv2 wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:48


Wache might be coping more than Red bull fans with that 0.3s deficit estimate.
It doesn't have to be cope. VCARB is too close to Hadjar compared to Bahrain. The power unit works really here. There would have been 4 RBPT cars in the top 10.
I expected Ferrari to be better, but RedBull is within my expectations from Bahrain. They just hide way too much and it was very obvious in the second test week. Too much dooming here for no reason. The efficiency bit was already foreshadowed in the first week with Toto freaking out trying to divert attention. But it was also kind of obvious for everyone to see as well. They never showed the same consistent straight line performance in the 2nd week as they did in the 1st.

They have done an amazing job overall. Just because the PU is closer to Merc than Ferrari (at least it feels that way), I think RedBull have the highest chance to catch up to Merc the earliest.
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