2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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If Wache is right, Max might trouble the McLaren even from the pit lane as they looked vulnerable in race trim which could mean somewhere P5-P6-P7

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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:50
euv2 wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:48


Wache might be coping more than Red bull fans with that 0.3s deficit estimate.
It doesn't have to be cope. VCARB is too close to Hadjar compared to Bahrain. The power unit works really here. There would have been 4 RBPT cars in the top 10.
That's 0.5s faster than Isaac, I know the deficit between Max and his teammates usually grows the harder they push but still. This formula won't allow Max to make up lap time on the corners as much, maybe he'll make up some time with better PU management. We'll see with race pace tomorrow and the next qualy.

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Valeo wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:57
If Wache is right, Max might trouble the McLaren even from the pit lane as they looked vulnerable in race trim which could mean somewhere P5-P6-P7
If there are safety cars, then even P3 or P4 is possible.
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euv2 wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:58

That's 0.5s faster than Isaac, I know the deficit between Max and his teammates usually grows the harder they push but still. This formula won't allow Max to make up lap time on the corners as much, maybe he'll make up some time with better PU management. We'll see with race pace tomorrow and the next qualy.
It doesn't mean that Max would be 0.5s faster than Isack. They could have calculated internally that Isack didn't have an optimal lap. Isack's middle sector was yellow.
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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:56
The data suggest that RB has the 2nd best power unit. Incredible.
They do by the looks of it, though I'm not quite sure what was going on with Ferrari. Their deployment was too bad, like they had an issue.

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Mercedes advantage is too big to be caught as I suspected. Its a massive uphill battle. Lets see where we end up. V
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07 Mar 2026, 09:51
F1 has not been heading south for decades, it was in a great place only a few months ago, better than it ever has been I would argue. What has happened is they have made a massive mistake by abandoning the principles of racing in favour of pandering to politics with this new regulation. Car racing is inherently excessive and inefficient, that's what makes it entertaining to watch. Once you compromise that to make it into an "eco-formula" you've lost the plot. We don't watch Verstappen and Co. to see them drive like we drive our own cars.
Watching the cars last season through fast corners was incredible, the speed, change of direction, the drivers pushing to the limits of adhesion and now we get this depressing super clipping, watching the cars slow down before corners is just sad, doesn't even feel like they are racing.

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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:56
The data suggest that RB has the 2nd best power unit. Incredible.
Not really, McLaren has it if you get what I mean :mrgreen:

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avantman wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 10:04
AR3-GP wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:56
The data suggest that RB has the 2nd best power unit. Incredible.
Not really, McLaren has it if you get what I mean :mrgreen:
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euv2 wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 10:04
Badger wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:51
F1 has not been heading south for decades, it was in a great place only a few months ago, better than it ever has been I would argue. What has happened is they have made a massive mistake by abandoning the principles of racing in favour of pandering to politics with this new regulation. Car racing is inherently excessive and inefficient, that's what makes it entertaining to watch. Once you compromise that to make it into an "eco-formula" you've lost the plot. We don't watch Verstappen and Co. to see them drive like we drive our own cars.
Watching the cars last season through fast corners was incredible, the speed, change of direction, the drivers pushing to the limits of adhesion and now we get this depressing super clipping, watching the cars slow down before corners is just sad, doesn't even feel like they are racing.
Indeed I am not really excited for tomorrow, and thats the first time in my life I can say that, been watching it since 2001. And F1 was always a simulation in which a great driver could make the difference through their skills in the corners, now its like an arcade game in which nearly everything is already decided in the pits by battery management. A big joke…
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avantman wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 10:04
AR3-GP wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 09:56
The data suggest that RB has the 2nd best power unit. Incredible.
Not really, McLaren has it if you get what I mean :mrgreen:
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So, do you want to say that RBPT is apparently even better than Mercedes PU and is the outright best ?
Let’s be serious, we cannot take anything away from these graphs, we have always been outsiders looking at these homemade telemetry overlays, now we became complete outsiders. Waste of time.
Even insiders do not understand much atm, listen to what Hamilton said post qualifying
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avantman wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 10:12
So, do you want to say that RBPT is apparently even better than Mercedes PU and is the outright best ?
Let’s be serious, we cannot take anything away from these graphs, we have always been outsiders looking at these homemade telemetry overlays, now we became complete outsiders. Waste of time.
No you can't because if you compare it to Mercedes themselves it looks almost as bad but from the other direction.
All you can say from this graph is that RedBull has a much more efficient car than McLaren.
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3 years ago Max already knew what was going on…

https://x.com/fm1_3316/status/203019023 ... ediaviewer
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Emag wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 10:13
avantman wrote:
07 Mar 2026, 10:12
So, do you want to say that RBPT is apparently even better than Mercedes PU and is the outright best ?
Let’s be serious, we cannot take anything away from these graphs, we have always been outsiders looking at these homemade telemetry overlays, now we became complete outsiders. Waste of time.
No you can't because if you compare it to Mercedes themselves it looks almost as bad but from the other direction.
All you can say from this graph is that RedBull has a much more efficient car than McLaren.
You cannot say that it is more efficient either, let alone much more efficient. All you can say it looks less draggy, probably by [setup] choice which is not at all the same as more efficient, which is about drag to DF ratio.