2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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According to this simulation the next race (China - Shangai) should go significantly better:

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What an awesome job the team has done with the SF-26. The overall performance was amazing. Way clear of the rest behind.

Best chassis on the grid. Being only 0,4 to 0,5 sec behind the hugely overpowered Mercedes can only be explained by a superior chassis - and the data showed it when looking at cornering performance.

Excited for the upcoming upgrade(s) - especially after what Vasseur said.
Sempre Forza Ferrari

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LM10 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 13:21
What an awesome job the team has done with the SF-26. The overall performance was amazing. Way clear of the rest behind.

Best chassis on the grid. Being only 0,4 to 0,5 sec behind the hugely overpowered Mercedes can only be explained by a superior chassis - and the data showed it when looking at cornering performance.

Excited for the upcoming upgrade(s) - especially after what Vasseur said.
Why does this car remind me of the 2017 car. I think it WILL get a few poles and wins at high downforce tracks - Monaco, Hungary, Netherlands, Singapore. Could be good. And contend for the rest of the podiums spots - P2 and P3 the rest of the year. I'd be happy with that overall...

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The first 10 laps gave me some confidence. Russel got somewhat lucky with that VSC because he’d just flat spotted his tyres which no doubt would have affected him. Seems getting second row in quali is not a problem either from a race start perspective.
Need to hope for some luck going our way for once 🫣

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F1NAC wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 12:32
Badger wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 12:20
Russell had a massive lock-up in the first stint trying to pass Leclerc into turn 1, after that he got a big vibration and came on the radio complaining about the tyre. Soon after that the VSC came. In other words, Ferrari screwed up by not pitting Leclerc on that first VSC. Russell would not have been able to go long. They fell asleep on the pit wall, per usual.
Were you watching the same race as I did?

Leclerc on 14 laps younger tyres couldn’t close the gap to Antonelli. Russell was just cruising in the lead. Had they pitted, merc would have probably stayed out or eventually passed leclerc with stronger race pace.

P3 is the most they could get.
I think what a lot of people are suggesting is it would have been nice to have made a race out of it by making Russell have to overtake at least one car on track vice letting them take the lead through pit stops.

End result likely the same but would have had a ‘race’.

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Xyz22 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 12:42
Vinlarr89 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 12:41
Merc definitely playing games, McLaren nowhere the same power level!
Hopefully ADUO kicks in so that an in season upgrade can somewhat close the gap
I don't know if Ferrari can do something with their very small turbo (according to reports). It will help in some tracks but overall it's likely that MB concept is superior.
They alluded to some software issue preventing them from delivering all the available electrical energy. It would better be the case, cause Mercedes customers are going to pick the low hanging fruits of deployment.

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Xyz22 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 12:57
Our only hope is if the FIA decide to reduce the electricity output available.
If on the other hand decide to increase how much is possible to recover, for example through superclipping, than we are even more finished.
This will make the deficit even bigger since the ice is the monster in MB case.

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Hamilton had a really impressive final stint. Closed an almost 8s gap to leclerc who held station on Antonelli, so he was the fastest car for the final stint. I think not pitting under VSC was a big mistake, they lost about 10s of race time on both cars doing that. Suddenly it’s a much closer race if so. I bet the Ferraris could have gone to the end on the hards too, their deg looked good.
Felipe Baby!

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bluechris wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 14:34
Xyz22 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 12:57
Our only hope is if the FIA decide to reduce the electricity output available.
If on the other hand decide to increase how much is possible to recover, for example through superclipping, than we are even more finished.
This will make the deficit even bigger since the ice is the monster in MB case.
I don't think so. Electrical is a multiplier of ICE power. The fastest one comes at the end of the straight, the larger the kinetic energy difference before and after braking, and the larger the accumulation of electrical enegy, than can be successively deployed on top of ICE power.

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Frank73 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 14:45
bluechris wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 14:34
Xyz22 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 12:57
Our only hope is if the FIA decide to reduce the electricity output available.
If on the other hand decide to increase how much is possible to recover, for example through superclipping, than we are even more finished.
This will make the deficit even bigger since the ice is the monster in MB case.
I don't think so. Electrical is a multiplier of ICE power. The fastest one comes at the end of the straight, the larger the kinetic energy difference before and after braking, andso the larger the accumulation of electrical enegy, than can be successively deployed on top of ICE power.

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Frank73 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 14:46
Frank73 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 14:45
bluechris wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 14:34

This will make the deficit even bigger since the ice is the monster in MB case.
I don't think so. Electrical is a multiplier of ICE power. The faster one comes at the end of the straight, the larger the kinetic energy difference before and after braking, and so the larger the accumulation of electrical enefgy, than can be successively deployed on top of ICE power. Within a lap, they can charge and deploy all the time. Rules limit the accumulation that can be done lap after lap (that is, without deploying).

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ChrisM40 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 12:58
ryaan2904 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 10:48
AR3-GP wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 10:40


Combustion engine performance delta between 2% and 4% can introduce 1 extra PU homologation in 2026, and 1 extra PU homologation in 2027. So across 2026 and 2027 they would be able to introduce 3 new PU homologations (2026 in-season upgrade, 2027 launch spec, 2027 in-season upgrade).

If the ICE delta is greater than 4%, they get 2 in-season upgrades in both '26 and '27.
Knowing this, i think its great that Ferrari are focusing on chassis upgrades. Even matching mercs in terms of pace forces merc to use more power. If they use more power others qualify for ADUO. A good chassis is a win win
How do they measure the percentage though? Merc can sandbag all they like but the customers wont be. If its obvious the merc engine is the best from their telemetry will ADUO still be triggered?
I think GPS estimates are quite reliable. Or atleast there are other ways by which the teams can actually know whether there is a 5/10/15 hp difference. Thats how it has been in the past. I think 15 hp was the 2% difference needed for ADUO this year
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ryaan2904 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 14:49
I think GPS estimates are quite reliable. Or atleast there are other ways by which the teams can actually know whether there is a 5/10/15 hp difference. Thats how it has been in the past. I think 15 hp was the 2% difference needed for ADUO this year
FIA has a torque meter on the drive shafts. No one can hide anything.
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ChrisM40 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 12:58

How do they measure the percentage though? Merc can sandbag all they like but the customers wont be. If its obvious the merc engine is the best from their telemetry will ADUO still be triggered?
They can measure torque on the rear halfshafts IIRC. Since the shaft speed is known, and also how much electrical power is being used, you can get a continuous and accurate ICE power reading.

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AR3-GP wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 14:51
ryaan2904 wrote:
08 Mar 2026, 14:49
I think GPS estimates are quite reliable. Or atleast there are other ways by which the teams can actually know whether there is a 5/10/15 hp difference. Thats how it has been in the past. I think 15 hp was the 2% difference needed for ADUO this year
FIA has a torque meter on the drive shafts. No one can hide anything.
That is perfect actually
CFD Eyes of Sauron