I'm not going to watch F1 in 2026 with this regs!!!
I don't care if Mcaren will solve their deployment/harvesting issues,this is FAKE AF!!!
BMW had powerful engines everytime they were in F1. I still remember these Brabham BMW of the 80s with the 1450 HP Turbos and how mighty were the Williams BMWs everytime we went in n tracks with long straights. We definitely need factory status at some point as it seems that factory teams can still find a way to screw customers.
FittingMechanics wrote: ↑08 Mar 2026, 15:25This sounds like Mercedes HPP is doing bare minimum, providing the PU but not really sharing all the data to simulate it properly.CjC wrote: ↑08 Mar 2026, 15:03Sounds like there is A LOT to learn about the Merc PU as a customer.
The lacking deployment comments sound even less naive now.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/mercedes ... stralia-gp
Again, it’s encouraging that there is some low hanging fruit to be had from the PU it’s just how long will it take to figure it out?
Cheeky from Mercedes. Other Mercedes customers should form a working group to speed up the learning process.
I expected HPP to behave better than that. I guess if it is a Merc vs Ferrari battle that I know who I will support.
Mansell89 wrote: ↑09 Mar 2026, 00:38What’s the situation with Mercedes PU and what they supply to customers guys?
Can someone explain it simply to me?
Is it correct that all teams now have the latest spec engine? But that in testing only the Merc works team had it, so spent 6 days optimising it and mapping it whilst the customers worked with the original spec.
Is it not the duty of the HPP partners to support McLaren and other customers to extract the best from it?
It just feels a bit like that hollow 2014 reg reset if there are fans being played, which would disappoint me as someone who wants to see genuine competition.
It’s likely to take several race weekends for customers to really get to grips with the PU right?
Good example to show that in this harvesting formula you can have lower apex speed and lower top speed (Mercedes compared to Ferrari) and yet be faster.
Bingo.FittingMechanics wrote: ↑09 Mar 2026, 11:32Good example to show that in this harvesting formula you can have lower apex speed and lower top speed (Mercedes compared to Ferrari) and yet be faster.
Going to wreck havoc on our ability to analyze data.
Its exactly that, plus that MB had this engine in tests also were MCLaren had it the last moment in Australia so they need to catch up a lot on this. Fortunately they have the data from MBs now to analyse and get there i hope soon.SilviuAgo wrote: ↑09 Mar 2026, 12:56There’s a lot of talk about the Mercedes engines and whether it's mandatory for McLaren, Williams, and Alpine to run the exact same engine as the factory team. People keep asking why Mercedes is considered so far ahead when McLaren has the same engines—something Russell even mentioned this weekend.
Let me explain it simply: it’s like being an engineer working on a new Samsung phone, developing both the hardware and the software. You’re involved from day zero—the testing, the features, the shortcuts, the performance tuning, everything. Naturally, at launch, I can buy the exact same phone with the exact same specs, but will I know how to use it as well as you do? No. I have to learn.
Can I know every trick and feature that you already mastered? No. I’m still learning. Can I squeeze out the same performance as quickly as you can? Not yet. But I’m getting there.
It’s the exact same thing with McLaren. It’s only natural for Mercedes to know everything—or nearly everything—about the engine they developed themselves. But McLaren is learning too. And the faster they learn, the quicker they’ll close that 1.0 to 1.5-second gap we saw in Australia.
I’m certain that after the summer break, we’ll see a different McLaren. Does this mean the title is lost for this year? Possibly. But starting next year, things will definitely get interesting. McLaren has the people and the expertise to quickly understand exactly what needs to be done. Let’s keep pushing!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HC8vw31WUAA ... name=large
I agree with both points generally speaking. I would just say Merc's apex speeds are probably a little bit supressed because they did a less optimal 1-stopper (short 1st stint, super long 2nd stint), whereas Ferrari's 1-stop is closer to optimal where you get the most out of both sets of tires.FittingMechanics wrote: ↑09 Mar 2026, 11:32Good example to show that in this harvesting formula you can have lower apex speed and lower top speed (Mercedes compared to Ferrari) and yet be faster.
Going to wreck havoc on our ability to analyze data.