2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[Otromundo]

Last week or maybe the week before I saw a video of a Japanese reporter interviewing a big boss from HRC. He had a life-size model of the engine behind him where you could see that the electrical part + battery were in staggered positions. They asked him the reason. He replied that AN had asked them for the MGU-K to be as low as possible and that they had to modify the engine. That the electrical part above the MGU-K housed "electrical components" (I suspected they could be capacitors, which is something I think is important to confirm, by the way) and that the lower part housed the battery. And that AN's reason was to move the center of gravity as low as possible, something logical and also typical of AN. At no point was AN or AMR criticized.

I've been looking for it for 2 days because I didn't save its address and I would like you to see it. But there is no way. Let's see if I can find it while I wait for P1 to start.

[CHT]

All F1 cars on the grid has similar ICE attachment to the chassis and there is no reason to believe the Honda ICE engine is vibrating so excessively that a battery pack sitting in the monocoque can be damage. If its ICE vibration issue, its also impossible for Honda not to notice this problem in the factory.

Having said that, its also important to note the MGU-K is also mounted to the ICE, which could also be the source of the excessive vibration as this is now mounted at a different location to other teams.

[SealTheRealDeal]

I don't know, but I don't think the MGU-K would cause the car to shake like that while the car is stopped.

[CHT]

https://twitter.com/agustinms67/status/ ... 1202697235
I don't know, but I don't think the MGU-K would cause the car to shake like that while the car is stopped.

2026 MGU-K are much bigger and heavier and its attached to ICE.
When MGU-K is closely attached on its side to the engine, there will be less rotational effect when ICE vibrate.
Under the current set up, the MGU-K is attached at the end, with is C.G further away from the ICE.
Which mean any movement from the ICE on the MGU-K will increase rotational effect due to perpendicular distance,

(Moment = Force x Perpendicular Distance).

[GhostF1]

I suppose a question that someone I know asked me that seems so obvious, it hasn't been asked is.. "if the vibrations for the driver are THAT bad they can't even drive the car, can they not introduce a damper on the steering and seat somewhere? Most motorcycles have dampers to mitigate severe vibrations for this exact reason. At this point, if it introduces a kilo or two, so be it, I think that's the least of their concerns for the moment, but if it gets them running, great".

I personally refuse to believe there is nothing they can do to make it possible for the drivers to actually drive it for [prolonged timeframes. This sounds archaic and a dodge or an exaggerated safety plea for development time.

[CHT]

I suppose a question that someone I know asked me that seems so obvious, it hasn't been asked is.. "if the vibrations for the driver are THAT bad they can't even drive the car, can they not introduce a damper on the steering and seat somewhere? Most motorcycles have dampers to mitigate severe vibrations for this exact reason. At this point, if it introduces a kilo or two, so be it, I think that's the least of their concerns for the moment, but if it gets them running, great".

I personally refuse to believe there is nothing they can do to make it possible for the drivers to actually drive it for [prolonged timeframes. This sounds archaic and a dodge or an exaggerated safety plea for development time.

Vibration is affecting battery, gearbox and driver. If source of vibration is coming from ICE affecting the chassis, then a damper will easily work for battery as well. My concern is its a combination of MGU-K vibration being too close to the battery and driver, + MGU-K mounting position causing excessive ICE vibration.

[etusch]

Vibration is affecting battery, gearbox and driver. If source of vibration is coming from ICE affecting the chassis, then a damper will easily work for battery as well. My concern is its a combination of MGU-K vibration being too close to the battery and driver, + MGU-K mounting position causing excessive ICE vibration.

If vibration or some of the vibration is because of mgu-k, it maybe because of that it is mounted to engine only from one end of it. Maybe it needs another mount to engine or chassis from the other end. Just an idea...

[Leon Kennedy]

Sector 1, 11th best sector, 1/10th behind Verstappen, and all this on medium tyres. Amazing chassis, Newey did his part.

[GoranF1]

Alonso slowly catching up with the midfield.

[CHT]

Vibration is affecting battery, gearbox and driver. If source of vibration is coming from ICE affecting the chassis, then a damper will easily work for battery as well. My concern is its a combination of MGU-K vibration being too close to the battery and driver, + MGU-K mounting position causing excessive ICE vibration.

If vibration or some of the vibration is because of mgu-k, it maybe because of that it is mounted to engine only from one end of it. Maybe it needs another mount to engine or chassis from the other end. Just an idea...

I think there may be 2 parts to the problem.

1) The MGU-K vibration - Honda mentioned it was a challenge in 2021, which require some modification to make the housing more rigid.

2) The less optimal mounting position of MGU-K mounting to the ICE.

From this picture, it does look like the battery pack is also mounted to a common structure attached to ICE. Which result in vibration coming from multiple sources at different frequency.

https://www.the-race.com/content/images ... it.jpg.jpg


Here is quote from Honda after Bahrain.

What Honda can see is the battery pack is being shaken because the structure it is attached to is vibrating more severely than expected.

Honda is investigating a combination of factors that likely caused these vibrations to emerge and running virtual track testing at its Sakura base with a chassis, engine and gearbox combined, but is yet to pinpoint the root cause.

"If we could identify a single cause, it would be easier to fix, but because multiple linked factors generate the vibration, we don't know whether fixing just one will solve it," said Takeishi.

[Ashwinv16]

looking at the sector times i am starting to see Adrian's frustration. He really cooked with the regs. Granted the car is still not great in slow corners but it's an absolute rocket in medium speed corners(defie lty the fastest or at least 2nd fastest behind the Ferrari and handles the high speed well. Honeslty it looks like as long as Honda gives reliability with a battery and regen to match others, it wont matter if the cars down on power. The chassis will make it up. Slow corners is massive worry though with terrible understeer and even worse traction but step by step.

[Ashwinv16]

Sprint Qualfying, lets see where we end up. Honestly the target would be to have an issue free session

[FNTC]

Alonso 2.5s off Russell with all the issues they have. Improvment at least.

[Leon Kennedy]

looking at the sector times i am starting to see Adrian's frustration. He really cooked with the regs. Granted the car is still not great in slow corners but it's an absolute rocket in medium speed corners(defie lty the fastest or at least 2nd fastest behind the Ferrari and handles the high speed well. Honeslty it looks like as long as Honda gives reliability with a battery and regen to match others, it wont matter if the cars down on power. The chassis will make it up. Slow corners is massive worry though with terrible understeer and even worse traction but step by step.

Yes I agree with you, they probably have the best car on the grid in terms of chassis and aero, but without an engine it's impossible. If only they had a decent engine, I wouldn't say the best, but a decent one. Let's hope for Japan.

[Ashwinv16]

Alonso 2.5s off Russell with all the issues they have. Improvment at least.

All of it seems to be just literally the enigne, and the final turn.