2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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I am surprised the race pace wasn't better. A very bad weekend. I think long corners are a particularly bad weakness for this chassis at the moment and it made them drop to midfield.

Still, worse pace and deg than their sister team? That's harsh.
Did Hadjar have any long-lasting damage from his kerfuffle in the beginning of the race?
Even then, I think Max was dropping away from Bearman in the end there, so it was hardly better on the other side of the garage.
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Emag wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 11:48
I am surprised the race pace wasn't better. A very bad weekend. I think long corners are a particularly bad weakness for this chassis at the moment and it made them drop to midfield.

Still, worse pace and deg than their sister team? That's harsh.
Did Hadjar have any long-lasting damage from his kerfuffle in the beginning of the race?
Even then, I think Max was dropping away from Bearman in the end there, so it was hardly better on the other side of the garage.
18s ahead af the time of retirement. Would’ve been 25s ahead in the end if MV had a chance to finish. Hardly better? Have you been watching the race at all? That is massive gap under these regs when best drivers couldnt make as much of a difference as before.

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avantman wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 11:50
Emag wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 11:48
I am surprised the race pace wasn't better. A very bad weekend. I think long corners are a particularly bad weakness for this chassis at the moment and it made them drop to midfield.

Still, worse pace and deg than their sister team? That's harsh.
Did Hadjar have any long-lasting damage from his kerfuffle in the beginning of the race?
Even then, I think Max was dropping away from Bearman in the end there, so it was hardly better on the other side of the garage.
18s ahead af the time of retirement. Would’ve been 25s ahead in the end if MV had a chance to finish. Hardly better? Have you been watching the race at all? That is massive gap under these regs when best drivers couldnt make as much of a difference as before.
You turned it into a driver thing, when I was quite clearly talking on the context of the car, but okay. It was the car that didn't look any better in either side of the garage, not the driver.

You're rather confrontational all the time for no reason actually. Try to chill.
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The season is really awful.

- Bad regulations which diminish the impact of the driver even more
- Red Bull with a big engine deficit to Mercedes and even Ferrari
- The car which is overweight, understeer and has big reliability issues at each race/qualification session

These are problems that probably won't be fixed before the next regulation.

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Poor max… :( no words. P6 would be Max today, p8 if Mclaren drivers were starting. A lot of homework to do, both drivers have shown racing spirit. Well its the reality.

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The potential was very visible today.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

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f1isgood wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:37
The potential was very visible today.
Potential of finishing 8th.

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PierreW wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:38
f1isgood wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:37
The potential was very visible today.
Potential of finishing 8th.
Thats what I have being saying. They have absolutely built a dog of a car. This is unacceptable even for a transition year.

The new Red Bull management is off to a terrible start.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

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f1isgood wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:39
PierreW wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:38
f1isgood wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:37
The potential was very visible today.
Potential of finishing 8th.
Thats what I have being saying. They have absolutely built a dog of a car. This is unacceptable even for a transition year.

The new Red Bull management is off to a terrible start.
The most worrying is that they can improve the car somehow but they would still be powerless regarding the engine and the battery part which are much harder to improve and out of their control.

At this point I can't imagine than this year is another thing than a complete write off.

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PierreW wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:43
f1isgood wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:39
PierreW wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:38


Potential of finishing 8th.
Thats what I have being saying. They have absolutely built a dog of a car. This is unacceptable even for a transition year.

The new Red Bull management is off to a terrible start.
The most worrying is that they can improve the car somehow but they would still be powerless regarding the engine and the battery part which are much harder to improve and out of their control.

At this point I can't imagine than this year is another thing than a complete write off.
I think I will leave the engine criticism away for now. It's always going to be rocky.

For chassis side this is deplorable.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

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Its better to have retirements when you are far behind then while at the front. Red bull are nowhere now, have a bad engine reliability, poor chassis, starts are very bad. The only positive thing we can say, it can only get better from now. Crazy what happened also to Mclaren, the two team which were dominant from 2022-2025 are nowhere…
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Vettel165 wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:44
Its better to have retirements when you are far behind then while at the front. Crazy what happened also to Mclaren, the two team which were dominant from 2022-2025 are nowhere…
McLaren are a customer team. They're getting nerfed by Mercedes. Although they have dropped the ball with the chassis as well.
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Vettel165 wrote:
15 Mar 2026, 12:44
Its better to have retirements when you are far behind then while at the front. Crazy what happened also to Mclaren, the two team which were dominant from 2022-2025 are nowhere…
McLaren has a better engine so the potential is there.

They have to understand how to make it work since Mercedes are going to hide a lot of information. When they bribe someone in Mercedes engine development to access the proper manual, they will be more competitive.

RB in the other hand will fall behind McLaren and Alpine purely due to the engine.

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Looks like this year will be just like a testing session for 2027. But I still think in the middle of the season things will probably get slightly better. Its hard to watch this, but its the reality. We had our 4 amazing years, and now 2026 its just a transition year for Red Bull. Both drivers are good now, but without the proper car they cant fight.

I wish you everyone a lovely sunday, one day we will be back, mark my words.