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[Xyz22]

Thought so, Monza has the ideal braking zones for testing the wing's actuation speed. Also what's the status on the car's weight?

Apparently a few KGs over the weight limit. Nothing like RB but not at minimum weight yet.

[dia6olo]

Thought so, Monza has the ideal braking zones for testing the wing's actuation speed. Also what's the status on the car's weight?

Apparently a few KGs over the weight limit. Nothing like RB but not at minimum weight yet.

Good to hear that they are carrying some extra weight too.
It has been said a number of other teams, specifically McLaren & RBR who could become a threat to being second best are overweight, so it's good to hear that Ferrari also has some free time to gain with weight loss, even if it won't be as much as the other two...

[Xyz22]

Thought so, Monza has the ideal braking zones for testing the wing's actuation speed. Also what's the status on the car's weight?

Apparently a few KGs over the weight limit. Nothing like RB but not at minimum weight yet.

Good to hear that they are carrying some extra weight too.
It has been said a number of other teams, specifically McLaren & RBR who could become a threat to being second best are overweight, so it's good to hear that Ferrari also has some free time to gain with weight loss, even if it won't be as much as the other two...

According to the data leaked (if it's reliable) Mclaren looks to be lighter than Ferrari at the moment.

[dia6olo]

Apparently a few KGs over the weight limit. Nothing like RB but not at minimum weight yet.

Good to hear that they are carrying some extra weight too.
It has been said a number of other teams, specifically McLaren & RBR who could become a threat to being second best are overweight, so it's good to hear that Ferrari also has some free time to gain with weight loss, even if it won't be as much as the other two...

According to the data leaked (if it's reliable) McLaren looks to be lighter than Ferrari at the moment.

Even better then, It looks like RBR need a small miracle to get back on track whereas McLaren still have the PU card in hand, if they are lighter than Ferrari I guess a small win for Ferrari there.

[THOR06]

I don't understand why everyone's talking about the engine, the weight, or the Ferrari's rear wing. We have a big problem, even if we're catching up to Mercedes in terms of engine and weight; the biggest issue to solve remains tire degradation. In the race in China, the gap was enormous. For me, tire degradation will be key this season because Mercedes' engine advantage in qualifying is no longer as significant in the race.

[bananapeel23]

I don't understand why everyone's talking about the engine, the weight, or the Ferrari's rear wing. We have a big problem, even if we're catching up to Mercedes in terms of engine and weight; the biggest issue to solve remains tire degradation. In the race in China, the gap was enormous. For me, tire degradation will be key this season because Mercedes' engine advantage in qualifying is no longer as significant in the race.

Tyre deg is only high because the drivers were fighting, while the Mercedes cars could cruise. From what I’ve seen, the data seems to suggest that Ferrari had the best deg in Australia. Given the amount of fighting they did, their deg was also very good in China.

[CRazyLemon]

For the ADUO if Ferrari gets this allowance and the rumour of ne ICE concept is true, would yhd team not be a bit hamstrung on upgrade options until the new ICE concept is in place? Or do we think ICE and electric can be developed separately and the SW has the hard work of making them work together seamlessly?

[AR3-GP]

Thought so, Monza has the ideal braking zones for testing the wing's actuation speed. Also what's the status on the car's weight?

Apparently a few KGs over the weight limit. Nothing like RB but not at minimum weight yet.

Who have you been reading today? Luca?

He did bad calculations

*errata corridge, more or less.
I'm told that the ballast that helps the driver reach 82kg should be in the car at the time of weighing.

[Seanspeed]

Thought so, Monza has the ideal braking zones for testing the wing's actuation speed. Also what's the status on the car's weight?

Apparently a few KGs over the weight limit. Nothing like RB but not at minimum weight yet.

Who have you been reading today? Luca?

He did bad calculations

*errata corridge, more or less.
I'm told that the ballast that helps the driver reach 82kg should be in the car at the time of weighing.

And he redid the calculations based on that.

[dia6olo]

I don't understand why everyone's talking about the engine, the weight, or the Ferrari's rear wing. We have a big problem, even if we're catching up to Mercedes in terms of engine and weight; the biggest issue to solve remains tire degradation. In the race in China, the gap was enormous. For me, tire degradation will be key this season because Mercedes' engine advantage in qualifying is no longer as significant in the race.

Tyre deg is only high because the drivers were fighting, while the Mercedes cars could cruise. From what I’ve seen, the data seems to suggest that Ferrari had the best deg in Australia. Given the amount of fighting they did, their deg was also very good in China.

Personally I don't feel tyre degradation is an issue at all. their degradation does indeed fall behind Mercedes, but I would argue it's because Ferrari are stressing them more in the corners than Mercedes are.
With a more potent PU Ferrari would also be able to stress the tyres less in the corners and make up the time in the straights.

[AR3-GP]

Apparently a few KGs over the weight limit. Nothing like RB but not at minimum weight yet.

Who have you been reading today? Luca?

He did bad calculations

*errata corridge, more or less.
I'm told that the ballast that helps the driver reach 82kg should be in the car at the time of weighing.

And he redid the calculations based on that.

He didn't. He just said he made mistake and didn't calculate any further. The numbers would indicate that Ferrari are already at the weight limit. The only way they would not be is if you assume that charles Leclerc is much heavier than Oscar Piastri and Lando Norris. He's clearly not. There wouldn't be more than 1-2 kg between these drivers which you can suspect visually, but is also consistent with numbers that have been published on the internet for each driver.

[LM10]

I don't understand why everyone's talking about the engine, the weight, or the Ferrari's rear wing. We have a big problem, even if we're catching up to Mercedes in terms of engine and weight; the biggest issue to solve remains tire degradation. In the race in China, the gap was enormous. For me, tire degradation will be key this season because Mercedes' engine advantage in qualifying is no longer as significant in the race.

What tyre deg issue are you talking about? Ferrari does not have any.

Look at Leclerc’s hard tyre stint in China. His lap times got only better and better. Guess what, his fastest time was on the last lap of the race on 45 laps old Hards. And this was despite many laps of wheel to wheel action and driving in dirty air.

[AR3-GP]

I don't understand why everyone's talking about the engine, the weight, or the Ferrari's rear wing. We have a big problem, even if we're catching up to Mercedes in terms of engine and weight; the biggest issue to solve remains tire degradation. In the race in China, the gap was enormous. For me, tire degradation will be key this season because Mercedes' engine advantage in qualifying is no longer as significant in the race.

What tyre deg issue are you talking about? Ferrari does not have any.

Look at Leclerc’s hard tyre stint in China. His lap times got only better and better. Guess what, his fastest time was on the last lap of the race on 45 laps old Hards. And this was despite many laps of wheel to wheel action and driving in dirty air.

I thought the data from China was weird because almost every car, even Red Bull show "negative deg". I think what this means is that mass has a bigger effect in China than most circuits. So the fuel burning off each lap is what made them faster at the end, not a lack of tire degradation. With fuel correction it looks like this:

[LM10]

I don't understand why everyone's talking about the engine, the weight, or the Ferrari's rear wing. We have a big problem, even if we're catching up to Mercedes in terms of engine and weight; the biggest issue to solve remains tire degradation. In the race in China, the gap was enormous. For me, tire degradation will be key this season because Mercedes' engine advantage in qualifying is no longer as significant in the race.

What tyre deg issue are you talking about? Ferrari does not have any.

Look at Leclerc’s hard tyre stint in China. His lap times got only better and better. Guess what, his fastest time was on the last lap of the race on 45 laps old Hards. And this was despite many laps of wheel to wheel action and driving in dirty air.

This is not the correct interpretation of the data. You haven't done the fuel correction. Mass has a higher sensitivity in China than other circuits so it meant that every car (even Red Bull) had faster laptime on old tires late in the race.

I know I didn’t correct it for fuel. Still very good tyre deg despite - and i say it again - being the only two drivers fighting each other hardly for many laps, on top of being in each other’s dirty air.

If 0.15 tenths of more tyre deg relative to the cruising Mercedes is “a big problem”, I don’t know what to say.

[AR3-GP]

I know I didn’t correct it for fuel. Still very good tyre deg despite - and i say it again - being the only two drivers fighting each other hardly for many laps, on top of being in each other’s dirty air.

If 0.15 tenths of more tyre deg relative to the cruising Mercedes is “a big problem”, I don’t know what to say.

I agree. I don't see that Ferrari has a deg problem.