2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[AR3-GP]

Am I the only one suspicious that the only two numbers beyond the decimal point in that entire table are 0 and 5?

EDIT: just saw the picture. So maybe that's the precision of the scale? Kinda disappointing.

Anyway, If Norris, Leclerc and Gasly are a bit clser to Max size than Hadjar size, the weight deficit for RBR might be closer to 10kg

Hadjar: 65 kg (https://global.honda/en/F1/driver/IsackHadjar/)
LEC: 68kg (https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/formula1/charles-leclerc)
NOR/PIA: 68 kg according to various unofficial sources.

[organic]

To be fair, max/waché talked about potential of the car before the horror show in china. They are still understanding the car characteristics, its limitations, and how to set it up

Let's not get carried away by the weight topic. There's a lot of work to be done and I imagine it will take a couple of upgrade packages to improve enough and incorporate ideas of others

[Xyz22]

Am I the only one suspicious that the only two numbers beyond the decimal point in that entire table are 0 and 5?

EDIT: just saw the picture. So maybe that's the precision of the scale? Kinda disappointing.

Anyway, If Norris, Leclerc and Gasly are a bit clser to Max size than Hadjar size, the weight deficit for RBR might be closer to 10kg

Hadjar: 65 kg (https://global.honda/en/F1/driver/IsackHadjar/)
LEC: 68kg (https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/formula1/charles-leclerc)
NOR/PIA: 68 kg according to various unofficial sources.

Leclerc is not 68kg lmao

[Dee]

This news is nothing but good news for us as fans.

15-20kg overweight in a regulation set that is sensitive to weight is a massive amount of laptime.

It also doesn't need wind tunnel time to fix.

After going so long into the last regulation set because we were fighting for the win and with a bad wind tunnel, why are a lot of posters so negative about the team? New engine, new regulations, new gearbox. This was not easy.

PU is excellent, Gearbox good and the car will be near or on pace to the Ferrari's with the weight loss.

That's pretty much all I can ask for in a brand new regulation set after spending pretty much all of last season on 2025 regs.

[Dee]

They're not shedding 30kgs by end of the year. This is peak incompetence. Williams level incompetence.

Also this doesn't explain why the car is generally --- at everything lol. The 2022 car had very clear strengths even while being so heavy. There's nothing on this car.

Weight didn't matter as much then, as long as the concept sealed the floor, which it did..

[Wouter]

The Red Bull is 20 kg heavier compared to the Alpine and 19 kg heavier compared to the McLaren.
The Red Bull currently weighs 798.5 kg (Excluding fuel) (minimum driver weight 82 kg)

This explains the high deg and lack of pace (Spotted by @MaxleclercVerst))




Translated from Chinese. A commentator/VIP watched the weighting process of parc ferme during ChinaGP.

taylorwebber

6 hours ago, from vivo X100s
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[Red Bull Drastically Overweight?!] Weight data of some team drivers observed from an upstairs perspective after qualifying.
—Red Bull cars weigh a whopping 716.5kg, while Ferraris, McLarens, and Alpines all weigh under 700kg.
As for drivers, Pan Zi and Erben both weigh 80.0kg (including helmet and equipment).
What surprised me most was Aokang [Ocon?]; at 185cm tall, he only weighs 72.5kg including equipment. See the image for detailed data.—
Note: The rules require a minimum vehicle inspection weight of 768kg (race car + driver, including equipment, excluding fuel).
◇F1 Super Topic #2026F1ChineseGrandPrix#



This is MCL40.



Translated from the Dutch F1 site F1 Maximaal.

Charles Leclerc's Ferrari was also weighed. The Monegasque himself weighs approximately 75 kilograms, including equipment.
Therefore, just like Gasly, he must carry at least seven kilograms of ballast. The Ferrari itself weighed 698.5 kilograms.
If you add the weight of the driver and equipment to that, you arrive at 773.5 kilograms. This puts Ferrari 5.5 kilograms above the weight limit,
although the actual figures may differ slightly if Norris, Gasly, and Leclerc are actually slightly lighter or heavier.

The only combination where the weight of both the car and the driver is known is that of Isack Hadjar. His RB22 weighed no less than 716.5 kilograms. Including the weight of the driver, that brings the total to 787 kilograms. This means Red Bull is nineteen kilograms overweight. Since the weight of both the driver and the car is known in this case, there is no uncertainty in the figures.
Verstappen weighs 9.5 kilograms more than his teammate and therefore needs to carry less ballast, but for him, the entire package is also nineteen kilograms above the weight limit. The time loss due to excess weight varies by circuit, but an average of 0.35 seconds per ten kilograms is assumed. An excess weight of nineteen kilograms would cost 0.665 seconds in that case.

[venkyhere]

The "estimate" for how much overweight ranges from 10,15,19,20,25,30 kgs, in this thread, after considering driver weight, ballast to meet minimum driver weight etc

However, I have a different question. What does the regulation specify regarding engine/PU weight ? Is it a min or max spec ? I have a feeling that RBPT DM01 maybe a good old bull whilst other PUs are cows.
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[Sergej]

The "estimate" for how much overweight ranges from 10,15,19,20,25,30 kgs, in this thread, after considering driver weight, ballast to meet minimum driver weight etc

However, I have a different question. What does the regulation specify regarding engine/PU weight ? Is it a min or max spec ? I have a feeling that RBPT DM01 maybe a good old bull whilst other PUs are cows.
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this is interesting because maybe the overweight comes from the engine ? and in that case it would take a PU upgrade (ADUO?) to shred some weight.

[Vettel165]

Amazing analysis from evervone here in the last day. You gave me a whole new hope if what about the weight really is true. Then it will worth the wait, as when the chunk will get slimmer a lot of whole new perfomance will come. The team has some luck as well, they will have 33 days to address the issue after Suzuka and come back stronger. Never stop believing. Imagine a car near its optimal weight will have much more stable balance, unpredicted understeer or oversteer will be probably gone as well, much better tyre wear. And also more speed on the straights. It could be worth a second per lap.

[FittingMechanics]

The "estimate" for how much overweight ranges from 10,15,19,20,25,30 kgs, in this thread, after considering driver weight, ballast to meet minimum driver weight etc

However, I have a different question. What does the regulation specify regarding engine/PU weight ? Is it a min or max spec ? I have a feeling that RBPT DM01 maybe a good old bull whilst other PUs are cows.
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I'd expect them to mention the weight if it was something they can easily work on. So I wouldn't he surprised if the engine is the reason for the weight.

[Vettel165]

I hope the weight comes from the chassis and not the engine. Because its easier that way to fix it with the updates. Lets have some faith, I am sure they are already working on it. Maybe already in Miami we will see a whole new car.

[TNTHead]

The "estimate" for how much overweight ranges from 10,15,19,20,25,30 kgs, in this thread, after considering driver weight, ballast to meet minimum driver weight etc

However, I have a different question. What does the regulation specify regarding engine/PU weight ? Is it a min or max spec ? I have a feeling that RBPT DM01 maybe a good old bull whilst other PUs are cows.
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I'd expect them to mention the weight if it was something they can easily work on. So I wouldn't he surprised if the engine is the reason for the weight.

May be the comment of Verstappen about 50% engine, 50% chassis, could also be read as (partly) related the weight.

I wonder what the weight of the Racing Bull car is, if the weight surplus is due to the engine they also would be overweight.

[AR3-GP]

Am I the only one suspicious that the only two numbers beyond the decimal point in that entire table are 0 and 5?

EDIT: just saw the picture. So maybe that's the precision of the scale? Kinda disappointing.

Anyway, If Norris, Leclerc and Gasly are a bit clser to Max size than Hadjar size, the weight deficit for RBR might be closer to 10kg

Hadjar: 65 kg (https://global.honda/en/F1/driver/IsackHadjar/)
LEC: 68kg (https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/formula1/charles-leclerc)
NOR/PIA: 68 kg according to various unofficial sources.

Leclerc is not 68kg lmao

For his height, that’s the right weight range (68-69kg) for F1 driver. Helmet is 1-2kg and suit is 1-2kg. Do you think the driver himself 75 kg? Lol. Hadjar isn’t 70kg either. That’s with his helmet, hans device, shoes, and suit.

[Dee]

The minimum weight on the 2026 engines is 185kg https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/what ... sis-rules/#, it was 151kg.

I doubt they wouldn't have accounted for that when they were building their own engine.

[Badger]

The Chinese guy who took the pictures on the weigh bridge literally posted the weight for several of the drivers.

Using these numbers and some estimates we can easily get a picture of the relative weight of the cars.

We have the weight for Hadjar, 70,5 kg. We don't have the weights for Norris, Leclerc, and Gasly, but I'm going to estimate them around 75 kg based on some of the other drivers that are listed (Piastri, Bortoleto, Perez). The minimum weight for quali is 726 kg + 46 kg (tyres) = 772 kg.

Results:
Red Bull: 716,5 + 70,5 = 787 kg
Ferrari : 698,5 + 75 = 773,5 kg
McLaren: 697,5 + 75 = 772,5 kg
Alpine: 696,5 + 75 = 771,5 kg

So RB is around 15 kg heavier. Ferrari, McLaren, and Alpine should be around the weight limit.