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DJ Downforce wrote:
18 Mar 2026, 15:38
I wonder how Suzuka will go for Ferrari. I expect that they will have the fastest sector 1 throughout the weekend but bleed time in sector 2 and particularly sector 3. I predict the gap to be 0.5 tenths in an optimistic world.
It depends on whether or not they can make the macarena wing work.
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DJ Downforce wrote:
18 Mar 2026, 15:38
I wonder how Suzuka will go for Ferrari. I expect that they will have the fastest sector 1 throughout the weekend but bleed time in sector 2 and particularly sector 3. I predict the gap to be 0.5 tenths in an optimistic world.
I think I saw Autoracer estimating a 0.3s gap, but who really knows.

S1 is a bit deceptive, because while it does include the high/medium-speed esses in S1, it also includes all of the front straight. I think Ferrari will be strong through the esses, but I don't know that they'll necessarily be significantly ahead of Mercedes there.

S2 is where I'd expect Ferrari will likely be best and have a chance to find time on Mercedes, specifically T9, T10/T11 (hairpin), and T13/T14 (spoon).

S3 will be rough through the back straight and 130R, but I'd expect Ferrari to find time in the chicane. Edit: the more I think about it, I'm not sure 130R will necessarily be flat-out, in which case Ferrari may be able to find some time there, but like the esses, I doubt they'll be significantly ahead of Mercedes.

I'd like to think (hope, maybe) it'll be relatively more competitive than Australia, and probably China, too. But I don't expect they're likely to have a chance to win, barring issues for Mercedes during the race, or an usually poor qualifying.

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https://x.com/KemalSengulll/status/2034270798844666350
The cancellation of the Bahrain and Saudi Arabia races has affected the teams' update plans.

Most teams had planned major updates for Bahrain. Now, they will use the 1-month break to bring more comprehensive packages to Miami.

Ferrari will also bring its major update to Miami. The team is particularly working to improve its performance on straights
He also tweeted about Ferrari's upgrades after the australian gp and said Ferrari expect to close most of the gap to Merc with them

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Luscion wrote:
18 Mar 2026, 16:53
https://x.com/KemalSengulll/status/2034270798844666350
The cancellation of the Bahrain and Saudi Arabia races has affected the teams' update plans.

Most teams had planned major updates for Bahrain. Now, they will use the 1-month break to bring more comprehensive packages to Miami.

Ferrari will also bring its major update to Miami. The team is particularly working to improve its performance on straights
He also tweeted about Ferrari's upgrades after the australian gp and said Ferrari expect to close most of the gap to Merc with them
I very much doubt they can achieve that with chassis upgrades alone.

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Luscion wrote:
18 Mar 2026, 16:53
https://x.com/KemalSengulll/status/2034270798844666350
The cancellation of the Bahrain and Saudi Arabia races has affected the teams' update plans.

Most teams had planned major updates for Bahrain. Now, they will use the 1-month break to bring more comprehensive packages to Miami.

Ferrari will also bring its major update to Miami. The team is particularly working to improve its performance on straights
He also tweeted about Ferrari's upgrades after the australian gp and said Ferrari expect to close most of the gap to Merc with them
Is Mercedes just going to stand around during all this time? If Mercedes brings an equal step, the gap will remain the same.
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I agree with the theory that was presented here some pages ago. The reason Hamilton is close to Leclerc is because the importance of the corners has been killed in the new Formula. Now the key to a good laptime is hitting the energy recovery targets, not corner speeds. So as long as Hamilton can recover the same amount of energy as Leclerc in the lap, he's going to set the same laptimes.
According to GPBlog, McLaren drivers have told the team that mistakes in a corner can sometimes reduce energy use. That saved energy can then be deployed later on the straight.

“Occasionally, there are comments from our drivers that once they make a mistake, it actually saves some energy,” Stella said. “Therefore, you go faster overall in a sector because the energy you saved with the delay in the throttle is going to reward you at the end of the straight.”

The idea runs against the usual values of top-level racing. Drivers train to remove mistakes from every lap. Stella openly acknowledged that tension.

“Obviously, this goes much more as to…do we want to be faithful to the DNA of racing in a traditional sense? Do we accept that this counter-intuitive situation belongs to the business or not?”

He framed the debate as a wider question for the sport. Stella said fans and drivers should also play a role in deciding how Formula 1 responds.

He did not call for immediate rule changes. Instead, he said the responsibility now sits with the sport’s leadership.

“It’s for F1 and the FIA now to collect the feedback, create a picture,” Stella said. “The tools to respond now exist.”
https://readmotorsport.com/2026/03/16/a ... 6-f1-rules
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18 Mar 2026, 19:11
I agree with the theory that was presented here some pages ago. The reason Hamilton is close to Leclerc is because the importance of the corners has been killed in the new Formula. Now the key to a good laptime is hitting the energy recovery targets, not corner speeds. So as long as Hamilton can recover the same amount of energy as Leclerc in the lap, he's going to set the same laptimes.
According to GPBlog, McLaren drivers have told the team that mistakes in a corner can sometimes reduce energy use. That saved energy can then be deployed later on the straight.

“Occasionally, there are comments from our drivers that once they make a mistake, it actually saves some energy,” Stella said. “Therefore, you go faster overall in a sector because the energy you saved with the delay in the throttle is going to reward you at the end of the straight.”

The idea runs against the usual values of top-level racing. Drivers train to remove mistakes from every lap. Stella openly acknowledged that tension.

“Obviously, this goes much more as to…do we want to be faithful to the DNA of racing in a traditional sense? Do we accept that this counter-intuitive situation belongs to the business or not?”

He framed the debate as a wider question for the sport. Stella said fans and drivers should also play a role in deciding how Formula 1 responds.

He did not call for immediate rule changes. Instead, he said the responsibility now sits with the sport’s leadership.

“It’s for F1 and the FIA now to collect the feedback, create a picture,” Stella said. “The tools to respond now exist.”
https://readmotorsport.com/2026/03/16/a ... 6-f1-rules
I think one also has to consider that these were Leclerc’s two worst tracks of the year (and arguably two of Hamilton’s strongest) - so you might argue that the gap to Mercedes is higher where he is not optimising; could it be that a Leclerc who’s comfortable is worth two tenths (effectively halving the gap to the front)?

But I hope that both Ferraris can be equally strong - my preference is always for whichever driver is most consistently capable of the best results (eg on the few occasions Massa was ahead of Alonso on the road, I wanted him out of the way because we knew he wouldn’t be able to sustain it every week, so it was only hurting the lead driver) and if that happens to be Hamilton this year, that’s just as good as if it’s Leclerc.

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That's not at all what your excerpt is saying. I think it's fine to admit that certain drivers are just struggling on their own terms to beat Colapinto in similarly competitive machinery without contorting into these absurdities about how driver skill doesn't matter anymore (a cursory glance at the timing screens would demonstrate it still in fact does). The demands on cornering technique in the current reg set are the same ones we've had prior to 2022, ergo what worked for the 50 years of flat floors before that is going to work now. Hamilton's technique of shortening the corner through late-braking and trailing off the brakes is not particularly rewarded by the reg set's energy demands (quite the opposite), but make him fast now for the same reason they did pre-22. A driver getting more competitive when they bed into a completely new team after a season is the expected result and doesn't need deranged magical thinking on the caliber of "driver skill doesn't matter anymore so better drivers (the driver I like) are magically doing worse than worse ones (drivers I don't like) T_T"

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f1316 wrote:
19 Mar 2026, 00:09
AR3-GP wrote:
18 Mar 2026, 19:11
I agree with the theory that was presented here some pages ago. The reason Hamilton is close to Leclerc is because the importance of the corners has been killed in the new Formula. Now the key to a good laptime is hitting the energy recovery targets, not corner speeds. So as long as Hamilton can recover the same amount of energy as Leclerc in the lap, he's going to set the same laptimes.
According to GPBlog, McLaren drivers have told the team that mistakes in a corner can sometimes reduce energy use. That saved energy can then be deployed later on the straight.

“Occasionally, there are comments from our drivers that once they make a mistake, it actually saves some energy,” Stella said. “Therefore, you go faster overall in a sector because the energy you saved with the delay in the throttle is going to reward you at the end of the straight.”

The idea runs against the usual values of top-level racing. Drivers train to remove mistakes from every lap. Stella openly acknowledged that tension.

“Obviously, this goes much more as to…do we want to be faithful to the DNA of racing in a traditional sense? Do we accept that this counter-intuitive situation belongs to the business or not?”

He framed the debate as a wider question for the sport. Stella said fans and drivers should also play a role in deciding how Formula 1 responds.

He did not call for immediate rule changes. Instead, he said the responsibility now sits with the sport’s leadership.

“It’s for F1 and the FIA now to collect the feedback, create a picture,” Stella said. “The tools to respond now exist.”
https://readmotorsport.com/2026/03/16/a ... 6-f1-rules
I think one also has to consider that these were Leclerc’s two worst tracks of the year (and arguably two of Hamilton’s strongest) - so you might argue that the gap to Mercedes is higher where he is not optimising; could it be that a Leclerc who’s comfortable is worth two tenths (effectively halving the gap to the front)?

But I hope that both Ferraris can be equally strong - my preference is always for whichever driver is most consistently capable of the best results (eg on the few occasions Massa was ahead of Alonso on the road, I wanted him out of the way because we knew he wouldn’t be able to sustain it every week, so it was only hurting the lead driver) and if that happens to be Hamilton this year, that’s just as good as if it’s Leclerc.
I think that while these were not exactly Lecerc's favourite tracks, reality is as I said a few pages back, without incidents there will not be much separation between them. That will actually be the case across all the teams. These cars as they currently stand make it almost impossible for the drivers to make a difference.

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AR3-GP wrote:
18 Mar 2026, 19:11
I agree with the theory that was presented here some pages ago. The reason Hamilton is close to Leclerc is because the importance of the corners has been killed in the new Formula. Now the key to a good laptime is hitting the energy recovery targets, not corner speeds. So as long as Hamilton can recover the same amount of energy as Leclerc in the lap, he's going to set the same laptimes.
According to GPBlog, McLaren drivers have told the team that mistakes in a corner can sometimes reduce energy use. That saved energy can then be deployed later on the straight.

“Occasionally, there are comments from our drivers that once they make a mistake, it actually saves some energy,” Stella said. “Therefore, you go faster overall in a sector because the energy you saved with the delay in the throttle is going to reward you at the end of the straight.”

The idea runs against the usual values of top-level racing. Drivers train to remove mistakes from every lap. Stella openly acknowledged that tension.

“Obviously, this goes much more as to…do we want to be faithful to the DNA of racing in a traditional sense? Do we accept that this counter-intuitive situation belongs to the business or not?”

He framed the debate as a wider question for the sport. Stella said fans and drivers should also play a role in deciding how Formula 1 responds.

He did not call for immediate rule changes. Instead, he said the responsibility now sits with the sport’s leadership.

“It’s for F1 and the FIA now to collect the feedback, create a picture,” Stella said. “The tools to respond now exist.”
https://readmotorsport.com/2026/03/16/a ... 6-f1-rules
Interestingly, Ham was recovering more energy quicker than Leclerc during their battle. He had more in the battery at turn 1 and also The big straight. Something Peter Windsor also pointed out in his video review.

Alex Albon rightly predicted that the LH driving style would also benefit the most from these rules. Granted, Leclerc and Lewis styles are mostly similar with small nuances between them.

I don't think any trends in the ground effect regulations apply to these new ones! We just have to reset out understanding.

On another note Ferrari should be much closer to Mercedes in Japan but I have a feeling Mercedes will have a special downforce adding upgrade there...
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Luscion wrote:
18 Mar 2026, 16:53
https://x.com/KemalSengulll/status/2034270798844666350
The cancellation of the Bahrain and Saudi Arabia races has affected the teams' update plans.

Most teams had planned major updates for Bahrain. Now, they will use the 1-month break to bring more comprehensive packages to Miami.

Ferrari will also bring its major update to Miami. The team is particularly working to improve its performance on straights
He also tweeted about Ferrari's upgrades after the australian gp and said Ferrari expect to close most of the gap to Merc with them
I can only assume that's with the added assumption that Mercedes don't bother bringing upgrades themselves.

Regarding Suzuka, with the latest info that Merc are almost as quick as Ferrari through the corners after all and a lot quicker exiting corners (all while stresses the tyres much less throughout), I don't see a scenario where Ferrari can be reasonably close.
I think minimum half a second gap.

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Matt2725 wrote:
19 Mar 2026, 03:34
Luscion wrote:
18 Mar 2026, 16:53
https://x.com/KemalSengulll/status/2034270798844666350
The cancellation of the Bahrain and Saudi Arabia races has affected the teams' update plans.

Most teams had planned major updates for Bahrain. Now, they will use the 1-month break to bring more comprehensive packages to Miami.

Ferrari will also bring its major update to Miami. The team is particularly working to improve its performance on straights
He also tweeted about Ferrari's upgrades after the australian gp and said Ferrari expect to close most of the gap to Merc with them
I can only assume that's with the added assumption that Mercedes don't bother bringing upgrades themselves.

Regarding Suzuka, with the latest info that Merc are almost as quick as Ferrari through the corners after all and a lot quicker exiting corners (all while stresses the tyres much less throughout), I don't see a scenario where Ferrari can be reasonably close.
I think minimum half a second gap.
Mercedes appear close to Ferrari through higher speed corners, but Ferrari seemingly have an advantage through medium/low-speed corners.

And that doesn't account for the fact that Ferrari is having to push harder through all corners in an effort to bother Mercedes, using more of their tires in the process. I suspect if Ferrari was comparable on power and didn't have to push hard just to stay close, their tire deg would be a bit ahead of Mercedes.

On the flip side, if Ferrari were up on power and Mercedes were having to push harder through non-power sensitive portions of the track just to keep pace with Ferrari, Mercedes relative tire deg would almost certainly look worse than it currently does.

The power disparity is a very key cog in all of this.

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It’s interesting to see the latest debacle at Aston Martin and think about how it relates to Newey/his decision not to join Ferrari (for the umpteenth time).

Putting aside the geographical aspect (“having” to move to Italy - as if that’s a downgrade from beautiful, sunny England…), the biggest reason Newey didn’t join Ferrari was lack of total autonomy. That’s the thing he always thought he wanted (throughout Williams and McLaren tenured in particular) and AM finally gave it to him, first as a managing partner and then even extending to include team principal. Seems like a case of “careful what you wish for”, no? All of the decision making Newey thought he wanted arguably distracted from what he does best.

I would suggest that what he really wanted was to be listened to on key decisions (which arguably Horner did a good job of for a long time) not actually have the responsibility for making them. Fred might well have been the perfect partner - someone supportive who would listen and value Newey while dealing with all the crap he didn’t want to (a Jean Todt type). Maybe it’ll all come good in the end but I can’t help but feel as if a successful stint at Ferrari would have been the perfect end to an amazing career and an environment which includes way more of the foundational tools to actually make that happen.

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"For us, there were a few corners in which we struggled, but it was actually giving us a bit of a boost down the straight because we were off throttle through the corners and charging a bit more,” he explained.
https://f1i.com/news/561452-lawson-hail ... oubts.html

It's showing why Ferrari's focus on cornering might not be necessary in this formula and why drivers are not benefitting from pushing the limits in the corners. They charge less when they do that.


There was a graphic shown somewhere on social media that showed that Ferrari was having to slow down a lot more in the corners of China in race trim just to charge the battery. So in the end Mercedes was showing higher corner speeds simply because they are more efficient harvesting, so they don't have to slow down so much in the corners.

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f1316 wrote:
20 Mar 2026, 21:54
It’s interesting to see the latest debacle at Aston Martin and think about how it relates to Newey/his decision not to join Ferrari (for the umpteenth time).

Putting aside the geographical aspect (“having” to move to Italy - as if that’s a downgrade from beautiful, sunny England…), the biggest reason Newey didn’t join Ferrari was lack of total autonomy. That’s the thing he always thought he wanted (throughout Williams and McLaren tenured in particular) and AM finally gave it to him, first as a managing partner and then even extending to include team principal. Seems like a case of “careful what you wish for”, no? All of the decision making Newey thought he wanted arguably distracted from what he does best.

I would suggest that what he really wanted was to be listened to on key decisions (which arguably Horner did a good job of for a long time) not actually have the responsibility for making them. Fred might well have been the perfect partner - someone supportive who would listen and value Newey while dealing with all the crap he didn’t want to (a Jean Todt type). Maybe it’ll all come good in the end but I can’t help but feel as if a successful stint at Ferrari would have been the perfect end to an amazing career and an environment which includes way more of the foundational tools to actually make that happen.
Too early to jump to conclusions on Newey and Aston Martin. In fact based on what the staff are saying, he's a great leader and things are going quiet well outside of the Honda issues. I see them coming on strong mid-year and potentially a threat to Ferrari.
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