2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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gearboxtrouble wrote:
21 Mar 2026, 17:28
Well I think I would bet money on Max retiring from F1 unless there are some drastic changes to the engine formula for 27. A driver being able to access max power at will using the throttle... that's one of the basic tenets of racing.
There are 100 million reasons why this will never happen. Talking about his retirement in genrral is just bad take and media nonsense. Drivers are not idiots even if they feel personally conflicted.
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Vettel165 wrote:
20 Mar 2026, 22:36
You will see how strong this car will be with some new updates and weight near a normal level. A lot of potential, its just a matter of time dont worry. The team will be back.
I doubt it. The RB board don't want it. They don't want to win, they think it's a bad thing. They look at their past successes in F1 with contempt, because they're ashamed of the people associated with it. Horner, Newey, Marko, Verstappen, maybe even Mateschitz himself. Once Mateschitz was gone, there was nothing to prevent RB from becoming any other globalized corporation.

The RB board and maybe even some fraction of RBR management do not want to win races. They want to look good in the office as they stare at each other. They want to look good on LinkedIn. They want to look good in the eyes of corrupt governments.

Common corporate progression. A founder leaves, then it's crabs in a barrel, and all that's left for oneupmanship within the contemporary corporate world is virtue-signalling by people who are not virtuous themselves. Horner in such a context would have been an easy target--and apparently was. The spiral must continue though, as RB corporate becomes another faceless globalized organization within the still-stumbling-along pomo economic order, a process which will fracture the remaining old-guard of RBR even if that encompasses 90% of the staff. It's trickling down. The livery is a bit random this year although still good, but the team kit looks atrocious. Blue on blue can be done, but they bottled it and it looks amateur.

I think RBR the team did send out Mateschitz in the grandest fashion that they could, while they could. Completing the most dominant car performance and most dominant driver performance in Formula One history. "Goodbye, brother." The MP4/4 was only similarly, although slightly less, dominant because it had two good drivers each bringing home half of its total victories. Incredible to think that amidst 2023, there was a growing faction with RB that was essentially thinking, "They're doing it wrong." So the demolition began. RBR would be transformed into something more resembling of the wannabes and no-names who took the helm of RB corporate. Various external parties would also have had an interest in this. Ultimately it was all a relatively easy process for the board, as all the big names at RBR were only employees. All they had to do was fire and hire.
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f1isgood wrote:
21 Mar 2026, 17:36
gearboxtrouble wrote:
21 Mar 2026, 17:28
Well I think I would bet money on Max retiring from F1 unless there are some drastic changes to the engine formula for 27. A driver being able to access max power at will using the throttle... that's one of the basic tenets of racing.
There are 100 million reasons why this will never happen. Talking about his retirement in genrral is just bad take and media nonsense. Drivers are not idiots even if they feel personally conflicted.
I might be wrong but I'm fairly certain he hates these garbage engines that he's forced to drive in F1 right now. The idea that you could be full throttle and have anywhere from 300hp (during superclip) to 1000hp is the antithesis of driver agency in racing. He's made clear again and again and again that he sees himself as a racer first whether thats GT cars, F1 or even just on the sim. He also knows he has the leverage. F1 would absolutely change these regs than risk losing him and have him flame them from outside. Max isn't going to do this but imagine if he threatened to go to Indycar - a Max vs Palou fight would be box office and it would trash F1's attempts to take over US motorsports.

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BTW I think it's great the team is giving Max the freedom to participate in other racing series next to his F1 duties.

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Sadly, they are DQ’ed for using extra set

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no peace for Max lol

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The GT race is cool but it's got nothing to do with the Red Bull F1 team thread, especially when there is a dedicated thread for the race and Max's involvement therein.
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Dee wrote:
17 Mar 2026, 21:34
Also, this guy is saying Max needs to take a tight line approach to corners to conserve tyres and help with energy with these low downforce cars, especially in China in corner 1.He says Max puts more load into the tyres than the car can take due to the lack of downforce.



Now, Max is adaptable. He won in both categories of kart, driving different styles (Long corners vs Tight corners) every other week. https://forums.kartpulse.com/t/kz-drivi ... e-pic/4474

He can drive and win in multiple car series.

So, does he need to adapt to this, for these types of cars?

If he hasn't done it yet, is it just a frustration thing with these new cars as Martin says, taking a tight line doesn't feel like your "on the limit...it doesn't feel natural or by feel"
The guy in the video is a buffoon and a known Max /RBR hater. I remember when he had to delete part of the baku video because he was getting called out on his BS.

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Just_a_fan wrote:The GT race is cool but it's got nothing to do with the Red Bull F1 team thread, especially when there is a dedicated thread for the race and Max's involvement therein.
Link to dedicated thread? I feel stupid for asking but can't find it when using my phone

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tinuva wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 08:27
Just_a_fan wrote:The GT race is cool but it's got nothing to do with the Red Bull F1 team thread, especially when there is a dedicated thread for the race and Max's involvement therein.
Link to dedicated thread? I feel stupid for asking but can't find it when using my phone

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This thread is NLS dedicated viewtopic.php?t=32557

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Farnborough wrote:
tinuva wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 08:27
Just_a_fan wrote:The GT race is cool but it's got nothing to do with the Red Bull F1 team thread, especially when there is a dedicated thread for the race and Max's involvement therein.
Link to dedicated thread? I feel stupid for asking but can't find it when using my phone

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This thread is NLS dedicated viewtopic.php?t=32557
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They say that red bull deny being 20kg overweight.

First updates will come in Japan as expected