2026 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, March 27 - 29

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I think the esses will be a good place to charge for the run from T7 to T8. I don't know how much downforce they'll have for T8, but they might want to charge again in that corner. Either superclipping or just LICO through T8 fully and then brake for T9. Then they will want to charge a lot through the hairpin and spoon to make the run to final chicane. Either partial throttle or just braking more. Since the start finish line is not far from the exit of the chicane, teams won''t be too concerned with having energy after the chicane.

Straight line mode will probably only be available on the front straight and before and after 130R. The rest of the track has too much curvature.


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AR3-GP wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 18:24
I think the esses will be a good place to charge for the run from T7 to T8. I don't know how much downforce they'll have for T8, but they might want to charge again in that corner. Either superclipping or just LICO through T8 fully and then brake for T9. Then they will want to charge a lot through the hairpin and spoon to make the run to final chicane. Either partial throttle or just braking more. Since the start finish line is not far from the exit of the chicane, teams won''t be too concerned with having energy after the chicane.

Straight line mode will probably only be available on the front straight and before and after 130R. The rest of the track has too much curvature.


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Be prepared to watch cars doing LiCo through 130R.
It will be the most pathetic viewing through that corner, made famous by prime Alonso & mid-teen Verstappen.

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venkyhere wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 06:33
AR3-GP wrote:
22 Mar 2026, 18:24
I think the esses will be a good place to charge for the run from T7 to T8. I don't know how much downforce they'll have for T8, but they might want to charge again in that corner. Either superclipping or just LICO through T8 fully and then brake for T9. Then they will want to charge a lot through the hairpin and spoon to make the run to final chicane. Either partial throttle or just braking more. Since the start finish line is not far from the exit of the chicane, teams won''t be too concerned with having energy after the chicane.

Straight line mode will probably only be available on the front straight and before and after 130R. The rest of the track has too much curvature.


https://i.postimg.cc/nhHGSF5Z/image.png
Be prepared to watch cars doing LiCo through 130R.
It will be the most pathetic viewing through that corner, made famous by prime Alonso & mid-teen Verstappen.
They will, but not because of energy but because of downforce. I don`t think R130 will go flat.

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This chart really doesn’t make sense without accounting for length of circuit, or more accurately how much of the circuit is power limited.

Austria looks worse than Belgium here, but I guarantee you it will be much worse in Spa.

Suzuka is going to be a bad circuit for energy. It’s long and lacks braking zones. The straights come consecutively with little ability to recharge in between. By the time they hit T1 they will be completely depleted (race), and so will be forced to spend their time up until T11 recharging the battery. Basically they will be harvesting and tyre saving on the iconic parts of the track whilst deploying on the flat bits.

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Thus... The Sh*tshow continues. :wink:

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Badger wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 10:54
This chart really doesn’t make sense without accounting for length of circuit, or more accurately how much of the circuit is power limited.

Austria looks worse than Belgium here, but I guarantee you it will be much worse in Spa.

Suzuka is going to be a bad circuit for energy. It’s long and lacks braking zones. The straights come consecutively with little ability to recharge in between. By the time they hit T1 they will be completely depleted (race), and so will be forced to spend their time up until T11 recharging the battery. Basically they will be harvesting and tyre saving on the iconic parts of the track whilst deploying on the flat bits.
It is just a indication of how much the brakes harvest, which is 70% of 4MJ battery i.e 8 sec, the rest of the time is going to be artificial with lift and coast, and generator mode

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michl420 wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 10:37

They will, but not because of energy but because of downforce. I don`t think R130 will go flat.
I think it will be easy flat if the wings are closed.
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Here are the straight mode zones. Boring as expected. I believe the percentage of the circuit covered by straight mode is less than Australia. The energy consumption is going to be very high. This is a track where teams would want to have high efficiency wings since they spend much more of the lap in the cornering mode where they don't need the downforce.

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From Thomas Maher:

Suzuka is not too bad for recovery, but equally it has its challenges because of the long straights," said Alpine's Dave Greenwood.

"I think we’ll see some variation in speeds through 130R across the teams, as you won’t want to waste energy if you’re scrubbing speed laterally on the tyres.

“ i think we’ll see cars harvesting before they reach the Turn 16 chicane. I think we’ll also be much quicker than in previous years out of the hairpin and on the exit of Spoon.

“The effect of less downforce will be keenly felt around Spoon. Drivers will be grip-limited for longer there, which will make it more challenging. I think we’ll see more variation in the lines taken, and it’s critical because of the exit you need onto the next straight.

"The FIA has confirmed there will only be two Straight Modes at Suzuka: the first is after Spoon, ending just before 130R, and the second is on the Start/Finish straight.”

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Can we please not have a thread full of complaints again. Perhaps a separate thread can be made for that? Or these people who hate this formula so much could stop watching for a while?

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It might be possible to get cars alongside one another into the 130R. If the leading car runs out energy and the trailing car has used the overtake mode then it could be close. It depend on how early they reach 290km/h before the 130R. Then I would have to assume that if you use overtake mode in the back stretch you would be vulnerable on the start/finish straight.

It's probably better to use overtake mode on the front straight since it's very unlikely that there is room to pass anywhere in the 1st sector. You could back off and charge the battery fully just by dawdling on the racing line through the esses.
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DJ Downforce wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 16:18
Can we please not have a thread full of complaints again. Perhaps a separate thread can be made for that? Or these people who hate this formula so much could stop watching for a while?
F1technical is site for purists

you should visit some sites recommended by your influencers who start every sentence with 'o my god'

If you feel a F1 car with 600hp for 80 sec of a 88 sec lap exciting, pls enjoy

Even a F2 car has more hp

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DJ Downforce wrote:
23 Mar 2026, 16:18
Can we please not have a thread full of complaints again. Perhaps a separate thread can be made for that? Or these people who hate this formula so much could stop watching for a while?
Or perhaps it's non of your business and if people want to complain about how poor these regs are then let them?