2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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FittingMechanics wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 13:09
avantman wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 13:07
Sorry, could you formulate again, what was the point of regulation?
To allow tactical use of energy and help with overtakes. If they wanted hybrids that have power throughout the lap they wouldn't formulate rules which give you 22 seconds of full electrical power per lap.
If you ever wanted to help with overtakes, setting this a prime goal, you would never be making slipstream effect weaker, which is exactly what f1 has been doing since 2022 regs change.
These regs, engine regs I suppose we are speaking about were created in order to enhance completely fake fabricated image of F1 as a green environmentally friendly sustainable sport. Which in turn would attract more and new car manufacturers which is good, supposedly, for the business, for such brands as Mercedes especially. Who and when was thinking about the sport? Racing? Overtaking? Developing these technical regulations…
Now F1 can proudly say they burn 400kilos less per race, roughly 10 tons less per year than a year before. And nobody asks them how many tons of fuel do Toto, Zack, Max and all others flying private all over the world burn annually spreading the products all over our heads? How many tons of diesel do all the trucks carrying their crap all over the Europe burn per year?
I always thought that was in essence the point of regulations, the rest…active aero, mj of energy allowed for harvest and deploy being largely irrelevant technicalities or fixes to cover the holes in the regs.

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F1 is just virtue signaling with these regulations. I am shocked people are trying to defend the joke of the regulations.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

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avantman wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 09:27
I should kindly remind everyone that Hadjar was rated significantly higher than Antonelli based on the evidence of last year. Theres no reason to believe Isack wouldnt be leading the championship id he had a chance to drive that Mercedes now.
And yet, MV manages to outpace his teammate by 20, 30 plus seconds in race trim, by far the biggest margins between teammates across all top teams, and most other teams as well.
Yet, we keep on hearing from the people he did not adapt, he can make no difference anymore getting to drive for once a brand new car that was not built entirely for him and his liking. This car was literally built for him to hate and yet he is so impressively fast in it. Qualifying has never been less relevant in the history of F1, there wont be 7-8 tenths gaps anymore, between anyone in the same car. Leclerc said all we need to kniw about it yesterday.
That's a significant amount of copium 😂

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Vettel165 wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 12:35
avantman wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 12:27
Utter tragedy. Not even this particular piece of evidence, but the fact the majority of fan base finds this proper racing, even exciting. Even so many on this very forum, which was supposed to be for more like connoisseurs of motorport rather than just casual fans.
But what if I’m wrong and it’s simply silly Max didn’t use his energy strategically enough, not being capable of adapting to new demands , unlike the next Senna young Kimi?
Indeed the overtakes are artificial and not real, I feel zero excitement when one car passes another. Its just a battery management-arcade game, F1 should have been always who has the biggest balls into the corner. I would rate this new rules 1/10, a big change is needed. And also Red Bull needs to make a big change/update, in Miami they will lower some of the weight on the car. But otherwise in terms of racing its very bad, to lose 40-50 km in the middle of the straight is not just a big joke, but very dangerous. Peak top speed should always be at the end of the straight, it always was like that. Skills dont matter anymore how quick you are in the corners. F1 was/always should be like this, who is best in the corners should win the race/WDC. And now the straights matter the most on which you need zero skills... A big shame...
100% agree. Cars spending too much battery to pass before the chicane, and then running out of battery mid way down the straight and being passed over and over again, and the commentators try to pretend its "brave" and exiting. Utter joke. Tripling the electric motor and keeping the same tiny battery is a disaster.

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What have they done to my favourite sport... If no speed was lost at the end of the straights I would gladly accept this new rules.

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f1isgood wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 13:35
F1 is just virtue signaling with these regulations. I am shocked people are trying to defend the joke of the regulations.
People are completely brainwashed. So many fans keep on repeating 50/50 distribution as a mantra, some say that just tweaking it to 55/45or 60/40 as an ultimate and obvious solution to every issue we have, seemingly not even knowing it it already almost 55/45, 53,3/46,7 to be precise. And even that is distribution at maximum power it can be 80/20, it can be 100 ice, it can be apparently less than the maximum power of the ICE at 400kW. Propaganda has been working hard to engrave these 50/50 numbers in people’s mind. That’s already a lie.
Another lie, or probably better to say misconception is that people believe this F1 car somehow uses electric, green energy to power it, whereas in fact ALL of it’s power and energy comes from burning fuel, literally 100%. It’s totally different to an EV charging its batteries at night, and/or from renewable energy sources and then spending next day entirely on this ‘green energy’ (let’s not go deep in the topic here). And then I’ve already talked above on the amount of kerosine and diesel burned down by the whole circus and its top figures annually only to get their arses around the globe, which makes the whole effort look like a complete joke. Yes, they made cars slower, a bit lighter and less draggy with active aero - all combined less energy hungry, which allows them to save 10 tons of fuel annually for racing, which is now sustainable anyway.
All this is like a bad joke if you think about it.

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both cars in dirty air throughout the race :

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Firstly this team needs to sort out their pitstops and operations. Okay the chassis is --- why is everything else ---? Secondly with the engine equalization they will be able to find some more performance. Both should help. Not sure how they got it THIS wrong.

Since Jonathan left, they have been utterly unserious.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

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venkyhere wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 16:09
both cars in dirty air throughout the race :

https://i.ibb.co/Mkd4h9fK/RB22-race-plo ... a-2026.png
So Had deficit to Ver was around 8-9 tenths, is that correct?

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Max went after the race very quick to the airport and is on his way home with a fuelstop in the Georgian capital, Tbilisi.
On Monday evening he is flying to Cologne, Germany, so he can drive on the Nordschleife on Tuesday.
He said he can't take part at the NLS3-race on April 11 but maybe we will see him April 18 and 19 for qualifying for the 24h race.

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Wouter wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 16:31
Max went after the race very quick to the airport and is on his way home with a fuelstop in the Georgian capital, Tbilisi.
On Monday evening he is flying to Cologne, Germany, so he can drive on the Nordschleife on Tuesday.
He said he can't take part at the NLS3-race on April 11 but maybe we will see him April 18 and 19 for qualifying for the 24h race.
A true legend of racing. He lives for it, amazing passion. :D

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avantman wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 16:29
venkyhere wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 16:09
both cars in dirty air throughout the race :

https://i.ibb.co/Mkd4h9fK/RB22-race-plo ... a-2026.png
So Had deficit to Ver was around 8-9 tenths, is that correct?
HAD deficit to VER is a result of their track position, not outright pace… Hadjar was stuck without been able to overtake, just as Max was stuck behind Gasly… The gap between both at the end of the race is more a reflection of the pace of the cars in front of them, than their own pace

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SmallSoldier wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 17:15
avantman wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 16:29
venkyhere wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 16:09
both cars in dirty air throughout the race :

https://i.ibb.co/Mkd4h9fK/RB22-race-plo ... a-2026.png
So Had deficit to Ver was around 8-9 tenths, is that correct?
HAD deficit to VER is a result of their track position, not outright pace… Hadjar was stuck without been able to overtake, just as Max was stuck behind Gasly… The gap between both at the end of the race is more a reflection of the pace of the cars in front of them, than their own pace
That is surely not a correct answer but thank you for effort. You forgot to mention the massive upgrade package than Max had giving him extra half a second a lap, no less and magic ability to overtake all those cars Isack couldn’t even stay close behind.

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📊 RACE PACE

1)Merc
2)McL +0.24 s/lap
3)Ferrari +0.32
4)Alpine +0.97
5)RBR +1.02
6)Haas +1.59
7)Audi +1.71
8)RBs +1.74
9)Williams +2.13
10)Cadillac +3.14
11)Aston +3.99

So Red Bull needs to find at least a second through weight reduction, and finding balance with the car to win. But my biggest worry is that Verstappen will retire because of the garbage anti racing regulations, even if the car is good. And without Verstappen the team is ---.

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pantherxxx wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 17:31
📊 RACE PACE

1)Merc
2)McL +0.24 s/lap
3)Ferrari +0.32
4)Alpine +0.97
5)RBR +1.02
6)Haas +1.59
7)Audi +1.71
8)RBs +1.74
9)Williams +2.13
10)Cadillac +3.14
11)Aston +3.99

So Red Bull needs to find at least a second through weight reduction, and finding balance with the car to win. But my biggest worry is that Verstappen will retire because of the garbage anti racing regulations, even if the car is good. And without Verstappen the team is ---.
Suzuka doesn't have long radius corners. They will be absolutely useless in Miami. Suzuka hides a lot of weaknesses.

They have a terribly useless chassis and that's the mildest way for me to put it. They are basically going towards McLaren in the mid late 2010s. No direction whatsoever.
The FIA folds on a royal flush.