2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[Honda Porsche fan]

I think there is an obvious disadvantage of having two separate parts of the race car designed and developed on two separate parts of the planet by two different cultures and two different languages. It does make it much easier when the complete car is all done inhouse by the same company.

[CHT]

Honda RC president Koji Watanabe confirmed that the severe vibration issues plaguing the 2026 Aston Martin-Honda F1 car were at an "acceptable level" during bench testing (dyno tests) at their factory, but became uncontrollable when integrated into the actual chassis.

Whatever Honda’s countermeasures is introducing will not a have a significant impact as it is outside of their scope of action…

Question is where do they go from here. To wait for new engine which will take months, or to design a new chassis that will help reduce the vibration. I think AMR must have been testing all sort of different ideas both on engine and chassis over the past 3 races hoping it will help fix the problem. Unfortunately with this unfortunate long break, they will fewer races for testing. Hope this is for the better.

[diffuser]

Honda RC president Koji Watanabe confirmed that the severe vibration issues plaguing the 2026 Aston Martin-Honda F1 car were at an "acceptable level" during bench testing (dyno tests) at their factory, but became uncontrollable when integrated into the actual chassis.

Whatever Honda’s countermeasures is introducing will not a have a significant impact as it is outside of their scope of action…

Question is where do they go from here. To wait for new engine which will take months, or to design a new chassis that will help reduce the vibration. I think AMR must have been testing all sort of different ideas both on engine and chassis over the past 3 races hoping it will help fix the problem. Unfortunately with this unfortunate long break, they will fewer races for testing. Hope this is for the better.

They said they have the vibrations fixed for the batteries, now also for the drivers for the next race. The ICE and MGU-K aren't effected by the vibrations. Next step is turn up the power on the PU.

[collindsilva]

Honda RC president Koji Watanabe confirmed that the severe vibration issues plaguing the 2026 Aston Martin-Honda F1 car were at an "acceptable level" during bench testing (dyno tests) at their factory, but became uncontrollable when integrated into the actual chassis.

Whatever Honda’s countermeasures is introducing will not a have a significant impact as it is outside of their scope of action…

Question is where do they go from here. To wait for new engine which will take months, or to design a new chassis that will help reduce the vibration. I think AMR must have been testing all sort of different ideas both on engine and chassis over the past 3 races hoping it will help fix the problem. Unfortunately with this unfortunate long break, they will fewer races for testing. Hope this is for the better.

They said they have the vibrations fixed for the batteries, now also for the drivers for the next race. The ICE and MGU-K aren't effected by the vibrations. Next step is turn up the power on the PU.

During Friday practice there was no vibrations, Honda implemented temporary fix which could not be raced during the
quali and race due to reliability issues.
So coming next race Miami, no vibrations. however still unknown are

- is the chassis overweight.
- is the engine in par with the other manufacturers

[Honda Porsche fan]

Hopefully, the long distance and communication between Aston Martin Racing and HRC Sakura Japan is worked out.

[diffuser]

Question is where do they go from here. To wait for new engine which will take months, or to design a new chassis that will help reduce the vibration. I think AMR must have been testing all sort of different ideas both on engine and chassis over the past 3 races hoping it will help fix the problem. Unfortunately with this unfortunate long break, they will fewer races for testing. Hope this is for the better.

They said they have the vibrations fixed for the batteries, now also for the drivers for the next race. The ICE and MGU-K aren't effected by the vibrations. Next step is turn up the power on the PU.

During Friday practice there was no vibrations, Honda implemented temporary fix which could not be raced during the
quali and race due to reliability issues.
So coming next race Miami, no vibrations. however still unknown are

- is the chassis overweight.
- is the engine in par with the other manufacturers

The chassis weight isn't unknown. Krack said they're over weight.

As far as the PU is concerned, you'll not know unless you try. Still, not sure what difference this makes. You need to push the PU and find it's weak points in both performance and reliability.

[collindsilva]

They said they have the vibrations fixed for the batteries, now also for the drivers for the next race. The ICE and MGU-K aren't effected by the vibrations. Next step is turn up the power on the PU.

During Friday practice there was no vibrations, Honda implemented temporary fix which could not be raced during the
quali and race due to reliability issues.
So coming next race Miami, no vibrations. however still unknown are

- is the chassis overweight.
- is the engine in par with the other manufacturers

The chassis weight isn't unknown. Krack said they're over weight.

As far as the PU is concerned, you'll not know unless you try. Still, not sure what difference this makes. You need to push the PU and find it's weak points in both performance and reliability.

The actual order of the AMR will be revealed in Maimi.
Anything above Williams should be good.

[Jambier]

During Friday practice there was no vibrations, Honda implemented temporary fix which could not be raced during the
quali and race due to reliability issues.
So coming next race Miami, no vibrations. however still unknown are

- is the chassis overweight.
- is the engine in par with the other manufacturers

The chassis weight isn't unknown. Krack said they're over weight.

As far as the PU is concerned, you'll not know unless you try. Still, not sure what difference this makes. You need to push the PU and find it's weak points in both performance and reliability.

The actual order of the AMR will be revealed in Maimi.
Anything above Williams should be good.

I think this is dreaming to think they can do something else than last for now.

Ok, they can be ahead of Cadillac but that doesn’t count.

Even if they are 1s faster they will be fighting with Williams for « last regular team »

But if:
- there are no more vibrations
- they can push PU and finish races

Then it means that their season will finally start and they can start to develop the chassis and engine (ADUO) to progress

Alonso said September is the target, so the goal I think is to be on an Alpine level in September which would mean already a huge progress.


And then focusing on 2027

[CHT]

Honda RC president Koji Watanabe confirmed that the severe vibration issues plaguing the 2026 Aston Martin-Honda F1 car were at an "acceptable level" during bench testing (dyno tests) at their factory, but became uncontrollable when integrated into the actual chassis.

Whatever Honda’s countermeasures is introducing will not a have a significant impact as it is outside of their scope of action…

Question is where do they go from here. To wait for new engine which will take months, or to design a new chassis that will help reduce the vibration. I think AMR must have been testing all sort of different ideas both on engine and chassis over the past 3 races hoping it will help fix the problem. Unfortunately with this unfortunate long break, they will fewer races for testing. Hope this is for the better.

They said they have the vibrations fixed for the batteries, now also for the drivers for the next race. The ICE and MGU-K aren't effected by the vibrations. Next step is turn up the power on the PU.

I read Honda have detached the battery from ICE to solve the vibration issue, but ICE + MGU-K is still the source of the vibration when mounted to the chassis. Battery part is solved but not the vibration that is affecting the driver and the whole car

[collindsilva]

Question is where do they go from here. To wait for new engine which will take months, or to design a new chassis that will help reduce the vibration. I think AMR must have been testing all sort of different ideas both on engine and chassis over the past 3 races hoping it will help fix the problem. Unfortunately with this unfortunate long break, they will fewer races for testing. Hope this is for the better.

They said they have the vibrations fixed for the batteries, now also for the drivers for the next race. The ICE and MGU-K aren't effected by the vibrations. Next step is turn up the power on the PU.

I read Honda have detached the battery from ICE to solve the vibration issue, but ICE + MGU-K is still the source of the vibration when mounted to the chassis. Battery part is solved but not the vibration that is affecting the driver and the whole car

https://jp.motorsport.com/f1/news/aston ... /10809478/

Statement from Krack

"In addition, with the cancellation of the Bahrain Grand Prix and the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, there is a large interval of one month between the Japanese Grand Prix and the next Miami Grand Prix. Until the crack, he expressed confidence that the vibration problem would be over by Miami, saying, "I strongly believe that in Miami, I will take a step forward and not have to talk about it anymore."

[diffuser]

Question is where do they go from here. To wait for new engine which will take months, or to design a new chassis that will help reduce the vibration. I think AMR must have been testing all sort of different ideas both on engine and chassis over the past 3 races hoping it will help fix the problem. Unfortunately with this unfortunate long break, they will fewer races for testing. Hope this is for the better.

They said they have the vibrations fixed for the batteries, now also for the drivers for the next race. The ICE and MGU-K aren't effected by the vibrations. Next step is turn up the power on the PU.

I read Honda have detached the battery from ICE to solve the vibration issue, but ICE + MGU-K is still the source of the vibration when mounted to the chassis. Battery part is solved but not the vibration that is affecting the driver and the whole car

I don't know the battery was ever attached to the ICE. Pretty sure it never was.

In FP2 they tested a part that solved the vibration for the driver. They didn't use it in qualifying or the race. The part wasn't race ready part. It was just of test quality.

Please READ the forum before you start to write stuff that is history.

[mzso]

If what I read is correct, they said they tested a new component to address driver vibrations. I don't know if they're just referring to isolating the driver from the problem or if they found the source of the vibrations. I think they'll isolate the driver from the vibrations for Miami, and the definitive, performance-enhancing solution will come much later.

If so what is reliability concern mentioned in the article?

The mounting can't handle the chunky tungsten dampening weights, probably.

[Otromundo]

Searching the internet I found a very interesting YouTube video, Gary Anderson goes on at length about the problems of AMR. It's a 49-minute talk that is worth it. It took me longer because I have to rewind several times to understand everything well.

https://youtu.be/jqoY1nMTo1M

[Otromundo]

I think that during the broadcast of the Suzuka race I heard the Spanish commentators talk about a decision that AMR should have made: taking the chassis to an Austrian company that apparently are the real specialists in the matter. I think they suspend the car in the air and the attachment points are the wheels. I was digging around and found a company in Graz that could be this company, but their website does not specifically mention this matter.

During the talk, they mentioned the fact as something surprising because apparently any team that aspires to something necessarily goes through these facilities. This led to something very interesting: perhaps AMR still does not have / consider that they have a definitive chassis. That is, we are almost in pre-season. This and the long interview with Gary Anderson confirm my suspicion and with it they reassure me a little. We are simply late. We can improve a lot. Supposedly.

I would also like to ask a favor of our Austrian colleagues: please, does anyone know anything about that company?

[bigblue]

I'm not Austrian, but surely you mean AVL, they're mentioned reasonably frequently in the context of F1 and even Aston's pre-season testing (they wanted to go to AVL, but didn't have time and are now doing things at Sakura, if I remember some news story on the web I read somewhere correctly - I make no claims as to the actual accuracy of that story though!).