2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[Waz]

Not sure it is related to this tread, but saw some video on reddit of Aston Martin testing some Frankenstein car a clone of Valkyrie and F1, not sure the purpose behind it

Testing PU?

Wouldn't it have been less conspicuous to fit the PU into a standard Valkyrie? Or at least the WEC Hypercar?

If that video is even real, it's raising a lot of questions on different platforms. If we know about it, the other teams also do.

[FNTC]

That car had a V12 or something

[SSJ4]

marca saying new engine for silverstone

Also motorsport are saying the Honda engine is overweight by around 30kg?

[Bill]

marca saying new engine for silverstone

Also motorsport are saying the Honda engine is overweight by around 30kg?

And you believe them no question asked.people are making --- about honda from 100bhp underpowered to these.the last claim was made about vibration issues and it has been debuked as normal vibration being amplified by chassis

[SSJ4]

marca saying new engine for silverstone

Also motorsport are saying the Honda engine is overweight by around 30kg?

And you believe them no question asked.people are making --- about honda from 100bhp underpowered to these.the last claim was made about vibration issues and it has been debuked as normal vibration being amplified by chassis

Stop insinuating stuff. I had a ? At the end of it questioning the statement.

It would imply the chassis and Honda engine combined are around 40kg overweight if that statement is true

[Bill]

marca saying new engine for silverstone

Also motorsport are saying the Honda engine is overweight by around 30kg?

And you believe them no question asked.people are making --- about honda from 100bhp underpowered to these.the last claim was made about vibration issues and it has been debuked as normal vibration being amplified by chassis

Stop insinuating stuff. I had a ? At the end of it questioning the statement.

It would imply the chassis and Honda engine combined are around 40kg overweight if that statement is true

You shouldn't take it personal you are not all that ,i was real referring to the media as whole on how the make up stuff and people on social media just take it as fact without any suspicion

[V10FURY]

The latest news on the engine front is that even Ferrari will be applying for the ADOU and potentially getting the full maximum upgrades allowed.

2026 F1 Engine Estimated Horsepower :

1. Mercedes 585 hp
2. Red Bull/ Ford 575 hp
3. Ferrari 550 hp
4. Audi 540 hp
5. Honda 500 hp

If these numbers are accurate then it seems Honda would need a completely new engine concept and design for 2027 to try to catch up to Ferrari, let alone Mercedes! Great job by Red Bull/ Ford on the very first engine they have ever made. Honda needs to get its act together here as this engine cannot be upgraded by 50+ horsepower anytime soon!

[zoroastar]

The latest news on the engine front is that even Ferrari will be applying for the ADOU and potentially getting the full maximum upgrades allowed.

2026 F1 Engine Estimated Horsepower :

1. Mercedes 585 hp
2. Red Bull/ Ford 575 hp
3. Ferrari 550 hp
4. Audi 540 hp
5. Honda 500 hp

If these numbers are accurate then it seems Honda would need a completely new engine concept and design for 2027 to try to catch up to Ferrari, let alone Mercedes! Great job by Red Bull/ Ford on the very first engine they have ever made. Honda needs to get its act together here as this engine cannot be upgraded by 50+ horsepower anytime soon!

yeah who woulda thought redbull powertrains would trounce a legendary company like honda. here we are

[zoroastar]

marca saying new engine for silverstone

Also motorsport are saying the Honda engine is overweight by around 30kg?

And you believe them no question asked.people are making --- about honda from 100bhp underpowered to these.the last claim was made about vibration issues and it has been debuked as normal vibration being amplified by chassis

dude, honda themselves were saying they were having problems getting the weight down, and creating enough power since before the season started. do you actually find the new reports hard to believe at this point?

[GhostF1]

marca saying new engine for silverstone

Also motorsport are saying the Honda engine is overweight by around 30kg?

And you believe them no question asked.people are making --- about honda from 100bhp underpowered to these.the last claim was made about vibration issues and it has been debuked as normal vibration being amplified by chassis

dude, honda themselves were saying they were having problems getting the weight down, and creating enough power since before the season started. do you actually find the new reports hard to believe at this point?

The actual figures I don't take as accurate but they are definitely down on power. They literally went into this season with two years less development time while also admitting the new regs have rendered their combustion and regen techniques that gave them big results on the last PU redundant and they have to figure out new avenues to regain the power lost. They said this as the season was about to begin.

I am not surprised they are down on power. They need time, but Honda always find their way, their development speed even when behind has always been incredible. The only thing that will slow it down is this power unit manufacturer cost cap (ridiculous) brought in for 2026, so they can't spend or dyno test as much as they used to. Hopefully ADUO is enough.

[collindsilva]

So Honda has produced a engine that is
- 30 Kg overweight
- 85 to 10 Hp down on Powered
- Vibrates like hell

[BassVirolla]

So Honda has produced a engine that is
- 30 Kg overweight
- 85 to 10 Hp down on Powered
- Vibrates like hell

Put that way, looks like a vintage diesel engine.

[Badger]

And you believe them no question asked.people are making --- about honda from 100bhp underpowered to these.the last claim was made about vibration issues and it has been debuked as normal vibration being amplified by chassis

dude, honda themselves were saying they were having problems getting the weight down, and creating enough power since before the season started. do you actually find the new reports hard to believe at this point?

The actual figures I don't take as accurate but they are definitely down on power. They literally went into this season with two years less development time while also admitting the new regs have rendered their combustion and regen techniques that gave them big results on the last PU redundant and they have to figure out new avenues to regain the power lost. They said this as the season was about to begin.

I am not surprised they are down on power. They need time, but Honda always find their way, their development speed even when behind has always been incredible. The only thing that will slow it down is this power unit manufacturer cost cap (ridiculous) brought in for 2026, so they can't spend or dyno test as much as they used to. Hopefully ADUO is enough.

It took 6 years to improve their engine to a competitive level after 2015. Not sure what is "incredible" about that.

The time to catch up will be determined by how much potential is left for the top manufacturers to exploit. If there is a siginficant amount of performance left for the others to find I don't think Honda will catch up at all during this engine regulation (which looks to be short-lived). But if they are already near the ceiling of what is possible Honda may be able to get to a decent level in the next couple of years.

[selvam_e2002]

I don't see AMR winning any races till next rule change in 2030. Alonso retire from F1 this year or next year if all the information such as over weight, down on power and 2 years behind development etc about Honda is true Bad management decision Fromm AMR to choose Honda.

[GhostF1]

dude, honda themselves were saying they were having problems getting the weight down, and creating enough power since before the season started. do you actually find the new reports hard to believe at this point?

The actual figures I don't take as accurate but they are definitely down on power. They literally went into this season with two years less development time while also admitting the new regs have rendered their combustion and regen techniques that gave them big results on the last PU redundant and they have to figure out new avenues to regain the power lost. They said this as the season was about to begin.

I am not surprised they are down on power. They need time, but Honda always find their way, their development speed even when behind has always been incredible. The only thing that will slow it down is this power unit manufacturer cost cap (ridiculous) brought in for 2026, so they can't spend or dyno test as much as they used to. Hopefully ADUO is enough.

It took 6 years to improve their engine to a competitive level after 2015. Not sure what is "incredible" about that.

The time to catch up will be determined by how much potential is left for the top manufacturers to exploit. If there is a siginficant amount of performance left for the others to find I don't think Honda will catch up at all during this engine regulation (which looks to be short-lived). But if they are already near the ceiling of what is possible Honda may be able to get to a decent level in the next couple of years.

Lol seriously? You think going from by far the worst PU, starting considerably later than others, with zero facilities or infrastructure, to arguably the best PU of the field, all while the others are developing at the same time is not impressive? You somehow think that isn't a clear demonstration of incredible development speed and potential? Wild take.

This isn't exactly starting from ground zero with the engine as it was 2015. I can't see it taking the same timeframe. Yes, the situation is worse than expected at the start, the car itself is all new, as are facilities and design methods, personnel and also the beginnings of a relationship between two international partners. Let's see how the team handle progression and development in the first half of the season before we start chanting "death to Honda" or "bad management decision choosing Honda" lol...