2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

[Luscion]

200km completed. Driver feedback on Macarena is positive, with no complaints reported. Updates on the pillars and flap. Package already shipped for Miami, drivers at the simulator tomorrow.

[Fakepivot]

love how they continue to come up with these kind of original ideas.. well done to them hope it all works out

[f1Follower]

So if the new rules promote to have bigger turbo will Ferrari move to have bigger turbo. Mercedes and others were successful in changing startup turbo lag with power from MGU-K

[bluechris]

So if the new rules promote to have bigger turbo will Ferrari move to have bigger turbo. Mercedes and others were successful in changing startup turbo lag with power from MGU-K

I suppose from what i read here and its a general feeling, that Ferrari went to smaller turbo to mitigate the loss of MGU-H in Race Starts. Offcourse the constantly changing of the the rules for the race starts, made them to feel stupid they will need to change that.
Either way, this was not supposed to be the engine for 2026 but its an intermediate solution since they had problems with the engine they designed and did a hybrid update to the 2025 engine and have it now. So because of ADUO and the fixing of the normal engine that they had design, they will be up in power and everything i assume like the rest.

[SiLo]

So if the new rules promote to have bigger turbo will Ferrari move to have bigger turbo. Mercedes and others were successful in changing startup turbo lag with power from MGU-K

They don't promote that. The changes to start procedures mitigated it a little but the recent change won't affect it. They are for starts where drivers are basically stationary or have anti-stall kick in.

[PlatinumZealot]

I am not sure about if they are allowed to make a new engine every year, or is Mercedes stuck with their current engine for the following years if it is the best or equal?

They have fixed engine free upgrade cycles. I think it's every two years or something like that to 2030.

[PlatinumZealot]

So if the new rules promote to have bigger turbo will Ferrari move to have bigger turbo. Mercedes and others were successful in changing startup turbo lag with power from MGU-K

Who says Ferrari have a smaller turbo?!

I don't know who come up with this stuff!! Lol

No one knows but Ferrari what the diameter of their turbine wheel is. The rules allow 90mm to 100mm. It might be silly not to use the full 100mm allowed because there are other ways to get quick spooling and that's free horsepower left on the table.

[Fakepivot]

No one knows but Ferrari what the diameter of their turbine wheel is. The rules allow 90mm to 100mm. It might be silly not to use the full 100mm allowed because there are other ways to get quick spooling and that's free horsepower left on the table.

i din't know there min and max size for turbo, does like what 1 cm make that much difference??

[PlatinumZealot]

No one knows but Ferrari what the diameter of their turbine wheel is. The rules allow 90mm to 100mm. It might be silly not to use the full 100mm allowed because there are other ways to get quick spooling and that's free horsepower left on the table.

i din't know there min and max size for turbo, does like what 1 cm make that much difference??

Yes! It makes a huuuge difference! For roto-dynamic machinery a few square centimeters or millimeters can even change flows and pressures by double! It is too much risk to go smaller, risking top end flow and hoping your rivals have a slow spooling turbo. I don't think any logical engineer would take the risk on that side of things. I would rather go maximum diameter and then figure out how to spool it quicker (let's face it, once the cars are up and running, the turbo can be kept spooled up, even in slow corners). Mercedes still beating us on traction out of corners.

[CRazyLemon]

200km completed. Driver feedback on Macarena is positive, with no complaints reported. Updates on the pillars and flap. Package already shipped for Miami, drivers at the simulator tomorrow.

As a bonus looks like we'll get 90 minutes in FP1 to assess the wing and the other 1.1 of the update package.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/miami-gra ... 2026-rules

[sucof]

No one knows but Ferrari what the diameter of their turbine wheel is. The rules allow 90mm to 100mm. It might be silly not to use the full 100mm allowed because there are other ways to get quick spooling and that's free horsepower left on the table.

i din't know there min and max size for turbo, does like what 1 cm make that much difference??

Yes! It makes a huuuge difference! For roto-dynamic machinery a few square centimeters or millimeters can even change flows and pressures by double! It is too much risk to go smaller, risking top end flow and hoping your rivals have a slow spooling turbo. I don't think any logical engineer would take the risk on that side of things. I would rather go maximum diameter and then figure out how to spool it quicker (let's face it, once the cars are up and running, the turbo can be kept spooled up, even in slow corners). Mercedes still beating us on traction out of corners.

Vasseur said many times that they choose a smaller turbo. Or am I mistaken?
Quote:
"That’s why we made certain decisions, and the FIA has been quite clear from the beginning about not wanting to change the starting procedure, so I was surprised when this topic resurfaced in Bahrain."

Vasseur added that "compromises" had been made in Ferrari's design process to accommodate the previous situation, although the Ferrari-powered cars generally appeared to enjoy stronger getaways at the start of the race despite the application of the five-second hold period.

[f1316]

i din't know there min and max size for turbo, does like what 1 cm make that much difference??

Yes! It makes a huuuge difference! For roto-dynamic machinery a few square centimeters or millimeters can even change flows and pressures by double! It is too much risk to go smaller, risking top end flow and hoping your rivals have a slow spooling turbo. I don't think any logical engineer would take the risk on that side of things. I would rather go maximum diameter and then figure out how to spool it quicker (let's face it, once the cars are up and running, the turbo can be kept spooled up, even in slow corners). Mercedes still beating us on traction out of corners.

Vasseur said many times that they choose a smaller turbo. Or am I mistaken?
Quote:
"That’s why we made certain decisions, and the FIA has been quite clear from the beginning about not wanting to change the starting procedure, so I was surprised when this topic resurfaced in Bahrain."

Vasseur added that "compromises" had been made in Ferrari's design process to accommodate the previous situation, although the Ferrari-powered cars generally appeared to enjoy stronger getaways at the start of the race despite the application of the five-second hold period.

I don’t think it’s been explicitly said that it’s a smaller turbo - I also don’t think it was confirmed 100% that they had one in the previous rules cycle.

That said, I do think it is very widely believed to be the case across both rules cycles and, given it was almost certainly the case in the last cycle, it’s very likely they continued with it. I don’t think the start advantage has been neutralised (nor have the other benefits they’ll get out of corners, which should mean continued strength at places like Monaco) so I presume they’ll continue it, whilst trying to get more extreme combustion (possibly with better fuel) - which will also help with harvesting - so that they can further balance out the trade off.

[Waz]

No one knows but Ferrari what the diameter of their turbine wheel is. The rules allow 90mm to 100mm. It might be silly not to use the full 100mm allowed because there are other ways to get quick spooling and that's free horsepower left on the table.

i din't know there min and max size for turbo, does like what 1 cm make that much difference??

Yes! It makes a huuuge difference! For roto-dynamic machinery a few square centimeters or millimeters can even change flows and pressures by double! It is too much risk to go smaller, risking top end flow and hoping your rivals have a slow spooling turbo. I don't think any logical engineer would take the risk on that side of things. I would rather go maximum diameter and then figure out how to spool it quicker (let's face it, once the cars are up and running, the turbo can be kept spooled up, even in slow corners). Mercedes still beating us on traction out of corners.

I thought I was the only one who was questioning where the idea comes from that Ferrari has a smaller turbo.

I remember they did in 2014, but it wasn't intentional and no way they made that mistake again.

Fred didn't say anything about turbo size or having to make any compromise. Just that they designed the engine and obviously gearbox with the start procedure in mind.

[CRazyLemon]

Nice comparison of Ferrari vs Redbull flip wings.

https://racingnews365.com/major-red-bul ... -explained

[THOR06]

Hello, I read a French article saying that Ferrari will bring a new engine to the Miami Grand Prix, but it seems to me that this isn't possible at the moment with ADUO. Or perhaps Ferrari can optimize the engine it already has before the FIA ​​even approves ADUO? Thank you for your answers.