2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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The driver talk is just fanboy mumbo jumbo. Irrelevant for the team.

This turned into a weekend to forget at the end there, but also a "slap to reality" for Ferrari. The chassis/aero department can put overtime hours and they're still not going to be able to challenge Mercedes without a new power unit.
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Leclerc needs to manage deficit if they’re considering jumping back from ADUO otherwise it would be on his shoulder in comparison to Vettel’s case.

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ADUO can't come soon enough. If that deficit can be cut to 1/3 of what it is, Ferrari will win every race.
CRazyLemon wrote:
03 May 2026, 21:03
Seems like with the upgrades we got new car characteristics , I mean it is just one race but there is a hint it isn't too kind on the tyres anymore.
Hamilton drove the entire race with one bargeboard and Leclerc was pushing like an animal on ~7 lap older tyres in order to stay ahead of a faster car, and likely overheated his tyre surface as a result.

I would not call this representative of overall deg.

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To wrap up on a positive note, the start?

Charles: "The starts have been positive since the first race. I hope to find another positive point, but clearly today, my mistake throws all the team's hard work in the trash, and on that front, I need to be very tough on myself and ensure it doesn't happen again."

Did you deliberately close the wing to let him through?

Charles: "That was part of the strategy, but well, the strategy didn't work. If I'd stayed ahead, I was sure Oscar would overtake, because they had way too much speed on the straights, especially in sector two, which was my strength at the start of the race. By the end, with the worn tires, I no longer had that strength, so I knew I absolutely had to activate Overtake mode. So he passed as expected, but then I made the mistake, and that threw all the efforts in the trash."

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bananapeel23 wrote:
03 May 2026, 21:18
ADUO can't come soon enough. If that deficit can be cut to 1/3 of what it is, Ferrari will win every race.
CRazyLemon wrote:
03 May 2026, 21:03
Seems like with the upgrades we got new car characteristics , I mean it is just one race but there is a hint it isn't too kind on the tyres anymore.
Hamilton drove the entire race with one bargeboard and Leclerc was pushing like an animal on ~7 lap older tyres in order to stay ahead of a faster car, and likely overheated his tyre surface as a result.

I would not call this representative of overall deg.
And in any case, given the size of the package, one race to solve teething issues is surely due

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According to Duchessa, Lewis had a lot more damage than reported, the floor fence alone cost him 20 points of downforce, he also had cooling and balance problems as a result of Colapinto hitting him, considering lewis at times keeping up with the others just a few tenths behind until the last bit of the race thats a positive i guess. "Santi wanted to keep him as optimistic as possible, giving him an estimate well below the actual figure", which imo, good on santi.

"Hamilton's car suffered a lot of damage — the lateral floor fence alone cost at least 20 points (of downforce), on top of a serious balance and cooling problem. I think Santi wanted to keep him as optimistic as possible, giving him an estimate well below the actual figure."
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Luscion wrote:
03 May 2026, 21:41
According to Duchessa, Lewis had a lot more damage than reported, the floor fence alone cost him 20 points of downforce, he also had cooling and balance problems as a result of Colapinto hitting him, considering lewis at times keeping up with the others just a few tenths behind until the last bit of the race thats a positive i guess. "Santi wanted to keep him as optimistic as possible, giving him an estimate well below the actual figure", which imo, good on santi.
santi and lewis seem to jell a lot better, but what happens to the race engineer they hired from mclaren? why waste money when they already a decent one?

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No matter what we do, the engine deficit takes everything out. It is a decent effort from aero side from the team but till an engine upgrade happened, we are out of luck. I am fine with both drivers, especially Leclerc who fought hard with what ever had in his hands.
One thing i has overestimated was the ability for Ferrari to follow other cars, seems McLaren is equal or better than us in this.

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Image
Antonelli-Leclerc laps 50-52, both in clean air, no weird deployment or OT.

I mean, what is there to say...

(Beside that Leclerc is the same as always)
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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
03 May 2026, 21:29
To wrap up on a positive note, the start?

Charles: "The starts have been positive since the first race. I hope to find another positive point, but clearly today, my mistake throws all the team's hard work in the trash, and on that front, I need to be very tough on myself and ensure it doesn't happen again."

Did you deliberately close the wing to let him through?

Charles: "That was part of the strategy, but well, the strategy didn't work. If I'd stayed ahead, I was sure Oscar would overtake, because they had way too much speed on the straights, especially in sector two, which was my strength at the start of the race. By the end, with the worn tires, I no longer had that strength, so I knew I absolutely had to activate Overtake mode. So he passed as expected, but then I made the mistake, and that threw all the efforts in the trash."
They gotta work on the ADUO and get meaningful engine upgrade otherwise no mistakes nor amazing chassis would close the gap in this kind of F1 era.

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Luscion wrote:
03 May 2026, 21:41
According to Duchessa, Lewis had a lot more damage than reported, the floor fence alone cost him 20 points of downforce, he also had cooling and balance problems as a result of Colapinto hitting him, considering lewis at times keeping up with the others just a few tenths behind until the last bit of the race thats a positive i guess. "Santi wanted to keep him as optimistic as possible, giving him an estimate well below the actual figure", which imo, good on santi.

"Hamilton's car suffered a lot of damage — the lateral floor fence alone cost at least 20 points (of downforce), on top of a serious balance and cooling problem. I think Santi wanted to keep him as optimistic as possible, giving him an estimate well below the actual figure."
Just shocking how Franco got away with it considering how obviously clear ham was alongside him and fias recent stance on this type of collisions.

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cplchanb wrote:
03 May 2026, 21:47
Luscion wrote:
03 May 2026, 21:41
According to Duchessa, Lewis had a lot more damage than reported, the floor fence alone cost him 20 points of downforce, he also had cooling and balance problems as a result of Colapinto hitting him, considering lewis at times keeping up with the others just a few tenths behind until the last bit of the race thats a positive i guess. "Santi wanted to keep him as optimistic as possible, giving him an estimate well below the actual figure", which imo, good on santi.

"Hamilton's car suffered a lot of damage — the lateral floor fence alone cost at least 20 points (of downforce), on top of a serious balance and cooling problem. I think Santi wanted to keep him as optimistic as possible, giving him an estimate well below the actual figure."
Just shocking how Franco got away with it considering how obviously clear ham was alongside him and fias recent stance on this type of collisions.
yea not only goes colapinto run him off track but goes straight into him afterwards, it seems the fia has decided if stuff like that happens on lap 1 its just a racing incident and dont give out penalties

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Luscion wrote:
03 May 2026, 21:51
cplchanb wrote:
03 May 2026, 21:47
Luscion wrote:
03 May 2026, 21:41
According to Duchessa, Lewis had a lot more damage than reported, the floor fence alone cost him 20 points of downforce, he also had cooling and balance problems as a result of Colapinto hitting him, considering lewis at times keeping up with the others just a few tenths behind until the last bit of the race thats a positive i guess. "Santi wanted to keep him as optimistic as possible, giving him an estimate well below the actual figure", which imo, good on santi.



Just shocking how Franco got away with it considering how obviously clear ham was alongside him and fias recent stance on this type of collisions.
yea not only goes colapinto run him off track but goes straight into him afterwards, it seems the fia has decided if stuff like that happens on lap 1 its just a racing incident and dont give out penalties
Once again fia the epitome of consistency. This was way beyond first corner and they were all alone battling so honestly no excuse not to investigate. It wasn't event a dive bomb like max does

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IntrinsicVoid wrote:
03 May 2026, 21:14
Leclerc needs to manage deficit if they’re considering jumping back from ADUO otherwise it would be on his shoulder in comparison to Vettel’s case.
Leclerc has now a 37 pt deficit over 4 races despite taking huge risks to outperform faster cars. By driving “safely” Ferrari can only finish P5-P6 and there are still 8 races left till Monza where the PU will likely be introduced. Finishing P5 means losing 15 pt per race. I leave the calculations to you guys.

This weekend was crucial and it has been a disaster. Terrible pace, terrible strategy, terrible pit stops, terrible reliability and mistakes by the drivers who are already under massive pressure. As of now, we are looking at a 150/160 pt deficit after the first half of the season.

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Fred -

https://x.com/FerrariF1FRA/status/2051031522258374839
- "It was the scenario from the start: everything revolved around tire management and temperature. When you're in a good position, the pace is there. That's true for us, but also for everyone else, with big performance fluctuations. It's very easy to overheat the tires and lose performance. It's a tough race to read. In the first part, when we were leading, for the first 15 to 20 laps, we managed to hold our position; it wasn't easy, but everything was under control. Then, however, the safety car came out."


- "When the safety car came onto the track, the others used push-to-pass mode, we lost positions, and from there, the race became much more difficult. We suffered too much from overheating, especially at the rear tire level."

- "There was a big gap between the first 17 laps and the rest of the race. We'd already had the same feeling yesterday: a very strong first part, then more difficulties at the end of the race. We need to learn the lessons from what happened and fix this issue."

- "With a clear track, the pace was good; we could stay in the slipstream of the others. We had more trouble when we were in the pack, well-positioned on the track. We don't have an advantage on the straights, and that's a problem when you're in the thick of the fight. You lose positions easily when the others use push-to-pass mode."

- "It's an overall issue, not just the engine. We need to work on all aspects. We managed to lead with relative ease for the first 15 to 17 laps, which means we can hold on even longer. Let's focus on Canada and try to bring improvements as soon as possible to make progress."

- "It's possible to fight for the title right up to the last race. The important thing is to have the pace needed to battle for the win. We have issues to fix, but we know what needs to be done."

- "Lewis had a lot of problems, including engine temperature issues, and had to manage his pace to protect the power unit. For him, it was more of a survival race until the end."