2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

[AR3-GP]

It's an academic question, as in not for the benefit of either driver.

[Luscion]

Did they say anything about why 20 over 5 seconds? I thought it was a similar situation to Hamilton in Singapore last year, but he only got 5 there if I recall

The strange thing is Hamilton cut far more corners that time.

Leclerc only cut 3 corners today. Why wasn't this just handled under the track limit infringement code? 3 track limit strikes which gives no punishment?

I don't care either way, so it's more of an educational question. Why is this not handled under track limit infringement?

Could be that lewis went off track but was pretty slow while doing it as he had to slow down to turn whereas Leclerc went off and kept going as fast as possible while cutting parts of the track with Russell and Max behind. even though the summons were the same in the fia's reasonings for why they have the penalty were different, lewis was only for cutting the track multiple times while the fia said charles gained a lasting advantage, i genuinely have no clue just a guess, but 20secs drive through penalty is rough

[Luscion]

floor and sidepod damage to lewis' car

[FittingMechanics]

Did they say anything about why 20 over 5 seconds? I thought it was a similar situation to Hamilton in Singapore last year, but he only got 5 there if I recall

The strange thing is Hamilton cut far more corners that time.

Leclerc only cut 3 corners today. Why wasn't this just handled under the track limit infringement code? 3 track limit strikes which gives no punishment?

I don't care either way, so it's more of an educational question. Why is this not handled under track limit infringement?

Leclerc was trying to block drivers, I would say that made it worse. If he just limped home that would probably be a lesser penalty.

[bananapeel23]

To wrap up on a positive note, the start?

Charles: "The starts have been positive since the first race. I hope to find another positive point, but clearly today, my mistake throws all the team's hard work in the trash, and on that front, I need to be very tough on myself and ensure it doesn't happen again."

Did you deliberately close the wing to let him through?

Charles: "That was part of the strategy, but well, the strategy didn't work. If I'd stayed ahead, I was sure Oscar would overtake, because they had way too much speed on the straights, especially in sector two, which was my strength at the start of the race. By the end, with the worn tires, I no longer had that strength, so I knew I absolutely had to activate Overtake mode. So he passed as expected, but then I made the mistake, and that threw all the efforts in the trash."

They gotta work on the ADUO and get meaningful engine upgrade otherwise no mistakes nor amazing chassis would close the gap in this kind of F1 era.

They need to capitalize on what is clearly the class of the field in all respects but the PU. If they are actually more than 4% down on power while staying this competitive, the chassis must be so absurdly ahead of the field that it isn’t even funny.

Still, no anount of chassis and aero will make up for the performance gap to Mercedes. Their only saving grace right now is that McLaren and Mercedes appear to be stealing points from each other.

[bananapeel23]

It was predicted that this could happen, drivers choosing to be behind before starting the last lap so they get the overtake mode. Don't think it will work.

It doesn't make sense either because on the last lap the defending driver can use the boost mode until the battery is completely flat because there is no lap afterwards.

He wanted to reovertake after the start/finish line in order to get overtake. That extra 0.5MJ clearly makes a pretty decent difference.

1.6 additional seconds of deployment clearly helps a fair bit, even if you also have to harvest that energy in the beginning of the lap to deploy it on the straights.

My guess is that he intended to lift and coast in sector 1 so that he could dump all that power on the first straight. Without overtake he would’ve been a sitting duck on the back straight after doing that.

[Xyz22]

Outside Monaco which is probably the only track where Ferrari can fight for the win the best strategy is probably bringing the car home without taking any risk, which means P5-P7 depending on RB performance.

[sucof]

I do not like these couch experts who criticise Leclerc for his spinning and after...
You have no idea how much he tried to hang on to third place, and how terrible it is to make a very small mistake and loose so much...
He is not ahead of Hamilton because he is simply faster, but because he drives on the edge a lot harder. And he does this since many many years at Ferrari despite all the disappointments of promises of a winning car. So I can understand him.

Let's hope the engine will fix their championship, because if not, I can see the current team falling apart, sadly. Vasseur will loose the trust from the owners, and many important team members in Ferrari, like the drivers.

[FDD]

I do not like these couch experts who criticise Leclerc for his spinning and after...
You have no idea how much he tried to hang on to third place, and how terrible it is to make a very small mistake and loose so much...
He is not ahead of Hamilton because he is simply faster, but because he drives on the edge a lot harder. And he does this since many many years at Ferrari despite all the disappointments of promises of a winning car. So I can understand him.

Let's hope the engine will fix their championship, because if not, I can see the current team falling apart, sadly. Vasseur will loose the trust from the owners, and many important team members in Ferrari, like the drivers.

Think that you're right.
He is pushing hard, driving on the edge most of the time with higher risk to make mistakes.
It is worth to mention that against Oscar he had 7 laps older tires also.
My personal opinion is that he has to relax a bit with the pushing and to bring points home.
Waiting for the new ICE.

[edu2703]

I do not like these couch experts who criticise Leclerc for his spinning and after...
You have no idea how much he tried to hang on to third place, and how terrible it is to make a very small mistake and loose so much...
He is not ahead of Hamilton because he is simply faster, but because he drives on the edge a lot harder. And he does this since many many years at Ferrari despite all the disappointments of promises of a winning car. So I can understand him.

Let's hope the engine will fix their championship, because if not, I can see the current team falling apart, sadly. Vasseur will loose the trust from the owners, and many important team members in Ferrari, like the drivers.

A good driver should always know how hard they can push the car and when the reward doesn't outweigh the risks. Excusing a driver for mistakes because they were "pushing hard" is very convenient, but when it happens repeatedly, it requires serious reflection on what I said above.

Leclerc is a very talented driver, and I've never doubted that, but he has a problem with taking too many unecessary risks and easily succumbing to any kind of pressure in that context. Even if he were in a car capable of fighting for the title, this characteristic could easily cost him a title, and the bad thing is that he doesn't seem to have improved at all in this aspect in all these years he's been in F1.

[CRazyLemon]

I do not like these couch experts who criticise Leclerc for his spinning and after...
You have no idea how much he tried to hang on to third place, and how terrible it is to make a very small mistake and loose so much...
He is not ahead of Hamilton because he is simply faster, but because he drives on the edge a lot harder. And he does this since many many years at Ferrari despite all the disappointments of promises of a winning car. So I can understand him.

Let's hope the engine will fix their championship, because if not, I can see the current team falling apart, sadly. Vasseur will loose the trust from the owners, and many important team members in Ferrari, like the drivers.

A good driver should always know how hard they can push the car and when the reward doesn't outweigh the risks. Excusing a driver for mistakes because they were "pushing hard" is very convenient, but when it happens repeatedly, it requires serious reflection on what I said above.

Leclerc is a very talented driver, and I've never doubted that, but he has a problem with taking too many unecessary risks and easily succumbing to any kind of pressure in that context. Even if he were in a car capable of fighting for the title, this characteristic could easily cost him a title, and the bad thing is that he doesn't seem to have improved at all in this aspect in all these years he's been in F1.

Let him win one title and watch him settle down.

Verstappen was a proper hot head in 2021 and then relaxed with that 1st wdc under his belt. Norris last year? A few mistakes as well. Now he is just letting it come to him.

There's desperation type errors vs just making mistakes.

[Seanspeed]

I do not like these couch experts who criticise Leclerc for his spinning and after...
You have no idea how much he tried to hang on to third place, and how terrible it is to make a very small mistake and loose so much...
He is not ahead of Hamilton because he is simply faster, but because he drives on the edge a lot harder. And he does this since many many years at Ferrari despite all the disappointments of promises of a winning car. So I can understand him.

Let's hope the engine will fix their championship, because if not, I can see the current team falling apart, sadly. Vasseur will loose the trust from the owners, and many important team members in Ferrari, like the drivers.

A good driver should always know how hard they can push the car and when the reward doesn't outweigh the risks. Excusing a driver for mistakes because they were "pushing hard" is very convenient, but when it happens repeatedly, it requires serious reflection on what I said above.

Leclerc is a very talented driver, and I've never doubted that, but he has a problem with taking too many unecessary risks and easily succumbing to any kind of pressure in that context. Even if he were in a car capable of fighting for the title, this characteristic could easily cost him a title, and the bad thing is that he doesn't seem to have improved at all in this aspect in all these years he's been in F1.

Oh come on, Leclerc barely ever makes these mistakes these days. Verstappen also made a big mistake today, and he's probably the best driver this sport has seen since Schumacher. Norris is easily more mistake-prone even when he's got the best car. And frankly, the only reason a podium was even remotely on the cards was because of Leclerc just being that good. Coming in to bash Leclerc over this feels like convenient opportunism than actual reasonable criticism. smh

Either way, it's the team ultimately letting Leclerc down way more often than the other way around. The guy deserves a proper top car. It's gotta be demoralizing knowing how well he drives so consistently and it simply doesn't matter because the Merc engine is more powerful.

[Jdn1327]

I do not like these couch experts who criticise Leclerc for his spinning and after...
You have no idea how much he tried to hang on to third place, and how terrible it is to make a very small mistake and loose so much...
He is not ahead of Hamilton because he is simply faster, but because he drives on the edge a lot harder. And he does this since many many years at Ferrari despite all the disappointments of promises of a winning car. So I can understand him.

Let's hope the engine will fix their championship, because if not, I can see the current team falling apart, sadly. Vasseur will loose the trust from the owners, and many important team members in Ferrari, like the drivers.

A good driver should always know how hard they can push the car and when the reward doesn't outweigh the risks. Excusing a driver for mistakes because they were "pushing hard" is very convenient, but when it happens repeatedly, it requires serious reflection on what I said above.

Leclerc is a very talented driver, and I've never doubted that, but he has a problem with taking too many unecessary risks and easily succumbing to any kind of pressure in that context. Even if he were in a car capable of fighting for the title, this characteristic could easily cost him a title, and the bad thing is that he doesn't seem to have improved at all in this aspect in all these years he's been in F1.

I wish Charles could win a title with Ferrari. It would be a fairy tale. Unfortunately his only failing is his blind loyalty for Ferrari. He will go down in history as a driver ripe with potential but unrealised because of the team listening to number 2 drivers rather than him.

[Ollywood1987]

I do not like these couch experts who criticise Leclerc for his spinning and after...
You have no idea how much he tried to hang on to third place, and how terrible it is to make a very small mistake and loose so much...
He is not ahead of Hamilton because he is simply faster, but because he drives on the edge a lot harder. And he does this since many many years at Ferrari despite all the disappointments of promises of a winning car. So I can understand him.

Let's hope the engine will fix their championship, because if not, I can see the current team falling apart, sadly. Vasseur will loose the trust from the owners, and many important team members in Ferrari, like the drivers.

A good driver should always know how hard they can push the car and when the reward doesn't outweigh the risks. Excusing a driver for mistakes because they were "pushing hard" is very convenient, but when it happens repeatedly, it requires serious reflection on what I said above.

Leclerc is a very talented driver, and I've never doubted that, but he has a problem with taking too many unecessary risks and easily succumbing to any kind of pressure in that context. Even if he were in a car capable of fighting for the title, this characteristic could easily cost him a title, and the bad thing is that he doesn't seem to have improved at all in this aspect in all these years he's been in F1.

Oh come on, Leclerc barely ever makes these mistakes these days. Verstappen also made a big mistake today, and he's probably the best driver this sport has seen since Schumacher. Norris is easily more mistake-prone even when he's got the best car. And frankly, the only reason a podium was even remotely on the cards was because of Leclerc just being that good. Coming in to bash Leclerc over this feels like convenient opportunism than actual reasonable criticism. smh

Either way, it's the team ultimately letting Leclerc down way more often than the other way around. The guy deserves a proper top car. It's gotta be demoralizing knowing how well he drives so consistently and it simply doesn't matter because the Merc engine is more powerful.

Best since Schumacher?! And what is this based on? Vibes? Yet to win a clean WDC with zero in team competition. also played Mario Cart with most of the field in both the sprint and GP this weekend and got away with it because the FIA are scared he will walk away now he’s not winning. Leclerc, top driver but even with an engine over powered by some margin in 2019 wasn’t able to be in contention for a WDC. Wasn’t even comfortably beaten by Sainz.

[Xyz22]

I do not like these couch experts who criticise Leclerc for his spinning and after...
You have no idea how much he tried to hang on to third place, and how terrible it is to make a very small mistake and loose so much...
He is not ahead of Hamilton because he is simply faster, but because he drives on the edge a lot harder. And he does this since many many years at Ferrari despite all the disappointments of promises of a winning car. So I can understand him.

Let's hope the engine will fix their championship, because if not, I can see the current team falling apart, sadly. Vasseur will loose the trust from the owners, and many important team members in Ferrari, like the drivers.

A good driver should always know how hard they can push the car and when the reward doesn't outweigh the risks. Excusing a driver for mistakes because they were "pushing hard" is very convenient, but when it happens repeatedly, it requires serious reflection on what I said above.

Leclerc is a very talented driver, and I've never doubted that, but he has a problem with taking too many unecessary risks and easily succumbing to any kind of pressure in that context. Even if he were in a car capable of fighting for the title, this characteristic could easily cost him a title, and the bad thing is that he doesn't seem to have improved at all in this aspect in all these years he's been in F1.

It’s difficult to stay calm when it’s been 7 years of cars not even close to fight for the world championship.