2026 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 01 - 03

[basti313]

Hamilton too fighting Colapinto was not needed at all and he austained huge damage as a result.

Why not? We all know that once things string out it would be much more difficult to pass. Ham was more than alongside Franco and was entitled to go for it. Had it been max he would've been praised either way for going for it too.

Max is usually not praised for crashing his car.

[basti313]

This is one of the most energy rich circuits on the calendar. IIRC only Monaco and Singapore have more harvestable braking available. Lets wait and see how things look in Canada before saying the changes made any real difference.

We already had China which was also energy rich and it was a yo-yo fest.

2 of the straights in Miami had 250kW MGU-K power limits. The superclipping was more powerful. So they drained the energy more slowly and they could charge faster. That's part of why driver's could overtake one another over the course of 2 laps instead of yo-yoing for 10 laps. It made it feel like drivers could actually accomplish a pass that they earned, rather than to just lose their position immediately every single time in order to create a social media friendly gimmick.

We are straddling the lines of actual sport and entertainment.

Sure it was just about adequate to be called F1 here. That's not a good sign for some of the faster circuits with less braking like Canada, Silverstone or Austria. If we're back to energy starvation there and the drivers continue to have to choose between taking a corner like Copse as fast as the car is able to and harvesting through them to go faster on the straight then we're still going to be back to looking like the farce in Suzuka.

Well, it is the right direction. Unarguably if they reduce the allowed deployment racing gets better.
We see now a gap in Q between most teammates, that did not exist at the start of the season. So the driver plays more of a role again. The lift and coast reduction is very good in Q.

So the direction to improve is given, that is a good one. I agree, that Canada or others have a very high likelihood of being bad again. This is just the usual FIA stubbornness. But this might be better in 2027 once they have seen it with their own eyes.

[cplchanb]

Hamilton too fighting Colapinto was not needed at all and he austained huge damage as a result.

Why not? We all know that once things string out it would be much more difficult to pass. Ham was more than alongside Franco and was entitled to go for it. Had it been max he would've been praised either way for going for it too.

Max is usually not praised for crashing his car.

No but hes praised for having the guts to go for it... just rewatch the global feed. Coulthard and Jacques were both gushing with praise on his high risk high reward divebombs during the race.
Meanwhile on this forum ham gets bashed for just sitting there and not doong anything and bashed for putting the same max moves because he shouldve been sitting there instead

[basti313]

Meanwhile on this forum ham gets bashed for just sitting there and not doong anything and bashed for putting the same max moves because he shouldve been sitting there instead

What are you talking about? Nerves already twisted in such a nonsense season? There is one post, that simply does not make any sense...quite far away from "bashed" I would say...just say what does not make sense.

For me there are two remarkable things, none relate to Verstappen or driving style:
- Two certain drivers come together quite often, surprisingly often. Reminds a bit of the old Massa slapstick to be honest...resulting in parts of the internet going Falklands 2.0. Not on this forums luckily. We are good!
- A certain driver gets surprisingly well off the hook with punishments. Remarkable. Is this skill or just fishy?

[Seanspeed]

That's exactly why Red Bull must sell Racing Bulls. Can't just give up positions like that. No integrity

I'm fine with team orders, but I do think they should maybe include a sporting regulation banning inter-team orders like this. Like, unless you can explain why you're giving up a position to a different team's car on a competitive basis or something, it shouldn't be allowed. There will still be wiggle room to perhaps say to a driver, "Dont fight X too hard" or something but straight up just backing off completely for like multiple seconds to let a different car through at a total detriment to yourself? Should be banned.

[PlatinumZealot]

Why not? We all know that once things string out it would be much more difficult to pass. Ham was more than alongside Franco and was entitled to go for it. Had it been max he would've been praised either way for going for it too.

Max is usually not praised for crashing his car.

No but hes praised for having the guts to go for it... just rewatch the global feed. Coulthard and Jacques were both gushing with praise on his high risk high reward divebombs during the race.
Meanwhile on this forum ham gets bashed for just sitting there and not doong anything and bashed for putting the same max moves because he shouldve been sitting there instead

It's amusing too that Max started on first row and threw it all away and everybody forgets that.

Charles gave away a podium.

Really Piastri, Norris, Antonnelli were the drivers of the day.

[Just_a_fan]

- A certain driver gets surprisingly well off the hook with punishments. Remarkable. Is this skill or just fishy?

Yes, it's fishy that a driver gets a meaningless 5s post-race penalty for crossing the pitlane line. The in-race penalty for that is a drive through which equates to a post-race 20s time penalty.

[Farnborough]

- A certain driver gets surprisingly well off the hook with punishments. Remarkable. Is this skill or just fishy?

Yes, it's fishy that a driver gets a meaningless 5s post-race penalty for crossing the pitlane line. The in-race penalty for that is a drive through which equates to a post-race 20s time penalty.

The stewards trod on their own toes in this one. What should have been a simple yes/no judgement was unclear to them immediately surrounding the incident. It shouldn't have taken until post race to judge it, or if in doubt wave it through as not contested.
Unacceptable to delay such a simple thing to post race, seems more like ass-covering fro officials once they lost impetus.

[Waz]

That race had so much going on. Drivers losing their minds, and others with quality overtakes.

Great drives by Antonelli, the McLaren duo and honorable mention to Charles for his fighting spirit. Ferrari tire wear was terrible this weekend.

I haven't seen radio on it, but watching live on the Lawson and Max swap, it seemed like he was asked to give the position back after a dodgy overtake rather than a team order of any kind.

I feel like inter team orders have been somewhat banned for a while now? Also, whenever it involves Red Bull, it seems overblown. There's a lot of examples of the sister team not moving over for them.

[Farnborough]

That race had so much going on. Drivers losing their minds, and others with quality overtakes.

Great drives by Antonelli, the McLaren duo and honorable mention to Charles for his fighting spirit. Ferrari tire wear was terrible this weekend.

I haven't seen radio on it, but watching live on the Lawson and Max swap, it seemed like he was asked to give the position back after a dodgy overtake rather than a team order of any kind.

I feel like inter team orders have been somewhat banned for a while now? Also, whenever it involves Red Bull, it seems overblown. There's a lot of examples of the sister team not moving over for them.

This was my understanding too, and same as MV giving the place back to LH from breech in off track limit while gaining a lasting advantage.

[michl420]

That race had so much going on. Drivers losing their minds, and others with quality overtakes.

Great drives by Antonelli, the McLaren duo and honorable mention to Charles for his fighting spirit. Ferrari tire wear was terrible this weekend.

I haven't seen radio on it, but watching live on the Lawson and Max swap, it seemed like he was asked to give the position back after a dodgy overtake rather than a team order of any kind.

I feel like inter team orders have been somewhat banned for a while now? Also, whenever it involves Red Bull, it seems overblown. There's a lot of examples of the sister team not moving over for them.

This was my understanding too, and same as MV giving the place back to LH from breech in off track limit while gaining a lasting advantage.

LAW was ask to give the positon back. But as I understand it VES try to overtake LAW, resulting both of them going off track. For me LAW had the right to staying in front.

[michl420]

Crossing pit exit line was always drive trough. Simple black and with. If such easy desicions are not possible anymore, than they need a 2 hour conference after every race.

[Farnborough]

Crossing pit exit line was always drive trough. Simple black and with. If such easy desicions are not possible anymore, than they need a 2 hour conference after every race.

The question from me is, why have they not got competent monitoring LIVE of that exit line to formulate, in realistic time, the penalty that is given to it ?

It just shouldn't need much level of analysis and debate from those controlling it to undermine the process. Do this properly, or it looses credibility for all competitors.

[Farnborough]

That race had so much going on. Drivers losing their minds, and others with quality overtakes.

Great drives by Antonelli, the McLaren duo and honorable mention to Charles for his fighting spirit. Ferrari tire wear was terrible this weekend.

I haven't seen radio on it, but watching live on the Lawson and Max swap, it seemed like he was asked to give the position back after a dodgy overtake rather than a team order of any kind.

I feel like inter team orders have been somewhat banned for a while now? Also, whenever it involves Red Bull, it seems overblown. There's a lot of examples of the sister team not moving over for them.

This was my understanding too, and same as MV giving the place back to LH from breech in off track limit while gaining a lasting advantage.

LAW was ask to give the positon back. But as I understand it VES try to overtake LAW, resulting both of them going off track. For me LAW had the right to staying in front.

Important is, that it was between Lawson and his race engineer to make the direction, and not governed (as some would have it) by inter team collusion, that's howsoever it was initially caused.

His race engineer and he was acting to prevent it being referred to stewards, from their own volition in this case.

[basti313]

- A certain driver gets surprisingly well off the hook with punishments. Remarkable. Is this skill or just fishy?

Yes, it's fishy that a driver gets a meaningless 5s post-race penalty for crossing the pitlane line. The in-race penalty for that is a drive through which equates to a post-race 20s time penalty.

That is actually not what I meant, but ok

Interesting: This is called a minor infringement and also named like this in the document. Former race director Wittich also said during the race, that this is a 5sec. I am trying to find another example, but only Austria 2024 is clear...but I do not find a video example.
The document for the penalty also states that they did not have the camara footage from the pit exit camera...there is a special camara to judge these infringements.