2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

[LM10]

that's a long time, suffering will continue...

Yup, Barcelona and Silverstone might be rough for Ferrari, they should be strong at Monaco though

I rather think this is alarming for the fact, that they are even close to 4% deficit. That would mean that Merc is using more sandbags than we see. And 4% is a deficit they will never be able to catch with one update...not even close.

If you mean sandbags in terms of ICE performance, sandbagging will not have an effect on measurement.

If you mean sandbags in terms of overall performance, they were not in a position to sandbag in Miami as they were in a serious race with McLaren upfront (Antonelli) and with others at the back (Russell).

[basti313]

If you mean sandbags in terms of ICE performance, sandbagging will not have an effect on measurement.

Yes, that is the 4% hope.

If you mean sandbags in terms of overall performance, they were not in a position to sandbag in Miami as they were in a serious race with McLaren upfront (Antonelli) and with others at the back (Russell).

Merc can only turn down all Merc engines. There was no race between Merc engine cars and non-Merc engine cars.
Merc and McLaren were half a minute clear of the rest, midfield dominated by Alpine and Willi.
Seems they turned it down just 30sec enough...

[venkyhere]

Yup, Barcelona and Silverstone might be rough for Ferrari, they should be strong at Monaco though

I rather think this is alarming for the fact, that they are even close to 4% deficit. That would mean that Merc is using more sandbags than we see. And 4% is a deficit they will never be able to catch with one update...not even close.

If you mean sandbags in terms of ICE performance, sandbagging will not have an effect on measurement.

If you mean sandbags in terms of overall performance, they were not in a position to sandbag in Miami as they were in a serious race with McLaren upfront (Antonelli) and with others at the back (Russell).

Kinsly elaborate on the bold highlighted phrase above.
Does FIA have their own ECU s/w, with it's own boost/fuel/battery maps in-situ with a throttle map ? OR does the FIA simply use the ECU s/w that the engine supplier provides ? How exactly does FIA 'measure/evaluate' the potency of a PU ?

[sucof]

Does anyone know any actual quotes from Ferrari regarding if the upgraded engine was their plan all along?
I heard such rumours. And it would make some sense, as some claim the current engine is just a version of the last years, in anticipation of some development time in the season to introduce their final solution?

[f1316]

What is the front wing trend others have and Ferrari don’t (according to Lewis)? I’ve seen various thing across the teams so not sure specifically what he’s referring to

[venkyhere]

What is the front wing trend others have and Ferrari don’t (according to Lewis)? I’ve seen various thing across the teams so not sure specifically what he’s referring to

Ignore 'engineer Lewis' , he keeps revealing pearls of engg wisdom (those questions/doubts/concerns that he is supposed to ask internally to his team) , to the press/media so that the narrative remains 'the car is not good enough' rather than 'driving isn't great'. This is an old trick. The whole world can understand why drivers aren't technically astute, they can't be expected to, they were turning wheels on tracks when other children were studying math & science, they had to give up an important aspect of life to excel in another. Yet some of them throw their engg team under the bus by nitpicking to the media about specific parts on their car which frankly they don't understand much more than the viewing public does. It's not their competence, yet they choose to 'play engineer'.

[jambuka]

Does anyone know any actual quotes from Ferrari regarding if the upgraded engine was their plan all along?
I heard such rumours. And it would make some sense, as some claim the current engine is just a version of the last years, in anticipation of some development time in the season to introduce their final solution?

If that was their plan all as long then new engines better be a beast.

[FDD]

Does anyone know any actual quotes from Ferrari regarding if the upgraded engine was their plan all along?
I heard such rumours. And it would make some sense, as some claim the current engine is just a version of the last years, in anticipation of some development time in the season to introduce their final solution?

If that was their plan all as long then new engines better be a beast.

According to the rumors Wolf Zimmermann made some miscalculations with thermal characteristics of the new ICE, so that was not their plan, but they were forced to use last season ICE with some mods, while they develop the new ICE.
I'll repeat, these was rumors, I never ever found any official statement by Cavallino Rampante, personally I think that it is quite possible that they have certain problems with the new ICE...
We also know that Wolf is now in Audi with his former colleague Matia Binoto.
A lot of former Cavallino staff is now in teams other than Cavallino, like for example Andrea Stella in McL (Michael era)...

[sucof]

What is the front wing trend others have and Ferrari don’t (according to Lewis)? I’ve seen various thing across the teams so not sure specifically what he’s referring to

Ignore 'engineer Lewis' , he keeps revealing pearls of engg wisdom (those questions/doubts/concerns that he is supposed to ask internally to his team) , to the press/media so that the narrative remains 'the car is not good enough' rather than 'driving isn't great'. This is an old trick. The whole world can understand why drivers aren't technically astute, they can't be expected to, they were turning wheels on tracks when other children were studying math & science, they had to give up an important aspect of life to excel in another. Yet some of them throw their engg team under the bus by nitpicking to the media about specific parts on their car which frankly they don't understand much more than the viewing public does. It's not their competence, yet they choose to 'play engineer'.

Hehehe, I like how you politely formulated what I also tried to preach here before
I do not know why so many people think the drivers can develop the car... and the worst is when such a driver believes they actually do! Like Ham.

[Luscion]

What is the front wing trend others have and Ferrari don’t (according to Lewis)? I’ve seen various thing across the teams so not sure specifically what he’s referring to

Ignore 'engineer Lewis' , he keeps revealing pearls of engg wisdom (those questions/doubts/concerns that he is supposed to ask internally to his team) , to the press/media so that the narrative remains 'the car is not good enough' rather than 'driving isn't great'. This is an old trick. The whole world can understand why drivers aren't technically astute, they can't be expected to, they were turning wheels on tracks when other children were studying math & science, they had to give up an important aspect of life to excel in another. Yet some of them throw their engg team under the bus by nitpicking to the media about specific parts on their car which frankly they don't understand much more than the viewing public does. It's not their competence, yet they choose to 'play engineer'.

All he said is that he thinks theyre doing something different with the front wing to ferrari because theyre all look different to what Ferrari have, he doesnt know if thats necessarily the whole thing, but he does wonder what theyre doing. He's also said they have the best car multiple times up to last week in Miami and that all they need is just the engine

[bananapeel23]

that's a long time, suffering will continue...

Yup, Barcelona and Silverstone might be rough for Ferrari, they should be strong at Monaco though

I rather think this is alarming for the fact, that they are even close to 4% deficit. That would mean that Merc is using more sandbags than we see. And 4% is a deficit they will never be able to catch with one update...not even close.

Merc is not sandbagging unless they have also convinced McLaren and Alpine to sandbag. McLaren is a genuine threat to their pace, so they have to run the engine at full beans, or else McLaren will win.

The 4% deficit isn’t alarming for Ferrari, it’s alarming for Mercedes and McLaren, who are like 2-3 tenths ahead if Ferrari despite a 4% power advantage in an engine formula.

Ferrari isn’t bringing ”one update” that is trying to squeeze more power out of the current engine. They are bringing a brand new engine concept. It will be completely different in basically every regard.

[jambuka]

There's a lot of talk about an engine update thanks to ADUO, but do we even know if the engine department in Maranello has been able to find a good performance gain?

2026
This, has there been any news about new engine? Is it strong and reliable? Everyone keeps banking on new engine , but we don’t know new engine details.

When was the last time Ferrari didn’t build a proper engine (except for 2020 obviously, but that’s another story)?

[deadhead]

Ferrari isn’t bringing ”one update” that is trying to squeeze more power out of the current engine. They are bringing a brand new engine concept. It will be completely different in basically every regard.

2027 maybe

[basti313]

Yup, Barcelona and Silverstone might be rough for Ferrari, they should be strong at Monaco though

I rather think this is alarming for the fact, that they are even close to 4% deficit. That would mean that Merc is using more sandbags than we see. And 4% is a deficit they will never be able to catch with one update...not even close.

Merc is not sandbagging unless they have also convinced McLaren and Alpine to sandbag. McLaren is a genuine threat to their pace, so they have to run the engine at full beans, or else McLaren will win.

The 4% deficit isn’t alarming for Ferrari, it’s alarming for Mercedes and McLaren, who are like 2-3 tenths ahead if Ferrari despite a 4% power advantage in an engine formula.

Ferrari isn’t bringing ”one update” that is trying to squeeze more power out of the current engine. They are bringing a brand new engine concept. It will be completely different in basically every regard.

Wow, so much nonsense in one post...

1. Merc turned down the engine is clearly visible if we just compare how much they still have in the bag if they need to go for fast laps during the race. In Melbourne they were just limiting it by their driving, but could easily pull a second over everyone else. This is stongly limited now suggesting they are using less powerful engine settings.
2. The settings are equal for all Merc powered teams. They turned it down for everyone. And yes, McLaren is giving them a run for their money, but this is not related to the current engine sandbagging, as the same sandbagging will be on every Merc powered car.
3. Ferrari can not bring a completely new engines. This is simply not possible by the rules. ADUO allows for one or two additional upgrades and a small amount of extra test bench time.
4. ADUO is not a leap-frog mechanism. FIA controls it to be not this or something like a BoP. If they are really 2% behind Merc, ADUO will help them to get to close to 1% maybe. Not more.

[Luscion]