2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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makecry wrote:
13 May 2026, 19:44
diffuser wrote:
12 May 2026, 23:35
SSJ4 wrote:
12 May 2026, 13:22
gotta wait till spa at the earliest for new engine and for b spec amr. until then it will be gathering more data and hopefully fixing the gearbox issues
Wazari said that they will not be able to use full power of the current PU till they get the new ICE mounting system and that will probably come in SPA. as for new PU we still don't know anything. Just because they bring all the updates at once doesn't really make it a b-Spec. Just a A-spec with lots of upgrades.
I don’t understand we are still discussing comments by a forum member who claims to work at Honda and has given wrong information over the years and is currently saying similar things that were post 10 years back
Given how was Honda communication ten years ago, I don't fully discard the possibility that the motorsport section of Honda is totally dellusional when facts don't go their way.

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makecry wrote:
13 May 2026, 19:44
diffuser wrote:
12 May 2026, 23:35
SSJ4 wrote:
12 May 2026, 13:22
gotta wait till spa at the earliest for new engine and for b spec amr. until then it will be gathering more data and hopefully fixing the gearbox issues
Wazari said that they will not be able to use full power of the current PU till they get the new ICE mounting system and that will probably come in SPA. as for new PU we still don't know anything. Just because they bring all the updates at once doesn't really make it a b-Spec. Just a A-spec with lots of upgrades.
I don’t understand why. we are still discussing comments by a forum member who claims to be a senior Honda personnel, but somehow is more often than not just wrong, and is more less repeating the same things from 10 years ago. More importantly, why are you taking this person's words as gospel like they are official Honda comments?
The stuff I read from him was true.

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yeah from what i remember it was about 50/50 where wazari was concerned. but a lot of the things he was way off on were timelines. but hondas timelines were way off too so, coulda just been towing the company line. was he active at all while honda were actually winning? or does he only show up when the copium is at an all time high? unfortunately ive never been on the winning side of hondas f1 history unless i go back to the early 90s.

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diffuser wrote:
14 May 2026, 21:42
makecry wrote:
13 May 2026, 19:44
diffuser wrote:
12 May 2026, 23:35


Wazari said that they will not be able to use full power of the current PU till they get the new ICE mounting system and that will probably come in SPA. as for new PU we still don't know anything. Just because they bring all the updates at once doesn't really make it a b-Spec. Just a A-spec with lots of upgrades.
I don’t understand why. we are still discussing comments by a forum member who claims to be a senior Honda personnel, but somehow is more often than not just wrong, and is more less repeating the same things from 10 years ago. More importantly, why are you taking this person's words as gospel like they are official Honda comments?
The stuff I read from him was true.
So how do you explain his comments from back in the day which I posted, or the fact that he claimed the 2026 engine was “on schedule”?

I would love for this forum to have more insiders but I will trust a person’s track record over anonymous credentials any day.

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Badger wrote:
15 May 2026, 10:31
diffuser wrote:
14 May 2026, 21:42
makecry wrote:
13 May 2026, 19:44


I don’t understand why. we are still discussing comments by a forum member who claims to be a senior Honda personnel, but somehow is more often than not just wrong, and is more less repeating the same things from 10 years ago. More importantly, why are you taking this person's words as gospel like they are official Honda comments?
The stuff I read from him was true.
So how do you explain his comments from back in the day which I posted, or the fact that he claimed the 2026 engine was “on schedule”?

I would love for this forum to have more insiders but I will trust a person’s track record over anonymous credentials any day.
Maybe Honda thought they were on schedule, only to find out that their schedule was way behind everybody else. Honda saying they are on schedule and their engine turning out to be quite bad are not mutually exclusive.

Edited a word.

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Slahinki wrote:
15 May 2026, 10:48
Badger wrote:
15 May 2026, 10:31
diffuser wrote:
14 May 2026, 21:42


The stuff I read from him was true.
So how do you explain his comments from back in the day which I posted, or the fact that he claimed the 2026 engine was “on schedule”?

I would love for this forum to have more insiders but I will trust a person’s track record over anonymous credentials any day.
Maybe Honda thought they were on schedule, only to find out that their schedule was way behind everybody else. Honda saying they are on schedule and their engine turning out to be quite bad are not mutually exclusive.

Edited a word.
It has crossed my mind but that level of corporate incompetence and self-delusion seems a bit unrealistic given Honda's immense experience, resources, and recent success in F1. I would also like to believe that an insider who claims to have decades of experience within Honda would be able to see through the corporate BS to give us a slightly more unfiltered perspective. Because how can we trust an "insider" who only gives vaguely positive information even when the project is in a state of complete disrepair behind the scenes? If we had taken Wazari at his word we would have believed that Honda was going to be competing for podiums in 2015, that they would be competitive with Mercedes from 2016 onwards, and that their engine in 2026 was on schedule. It's the complete opposite of what really happened over and over again.

Anyways, I don't want to pick on anyone but we must understand that this is the internet. Trust but verify. Verification has failed on this one many times.

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https://www.autoracing1.com/pl/493003/f ... y-mistake/
Former Ferrari and Mercedes engineering chief Aldo Costa:
Costa was particularly critical of Newey’s early-season public criticism of Honda after Aston Martin’s Melbourne disaster.

“I’ll say this openly – it has never happened to me before that I found an attack from Newey so out of place, carried out in such a violent and public way, right at the beginning of a championship, against your own partner,” he said.

“You just don’t do that.”

The veteran engineer believes the episode exposed deeper leadership failures inside the organization.

“Unfortunately it highlighted a lack of management, a lack of leadership,” Costa continued.

“When they later declared ‘In November we went to Japan, we saw they weren’t using the same people from the old Formula 1 project, that they were behind on power…’

“In November? You should have known before November.”

Costa added that true leadership means protecting the group publicly during difficult moments. “In my opinion, a boss is not someone who says: ‘If we win, I win – if we lose, you lose.’

“You should never do something like that. If you’re a good leader, in my opinion, it’s exactly the opposite.”
“I’ve never worked with him, but I have enormous respect – he’s arguably the most successful person in Formula 1,” he said.

“I have boundless respect for his technical abilities.”

But he added: “Feedback from those who have worked with him confirms that his greatest talent is technical, with a slightly lesser one in organizational and managerial matters.”

Costa believes that is why Newey thrived at Red Bull Racing under a broader management structure.

“Therefore, he needs support – it’s important to find a team like Red Bull,” he said.

“At Red Bull, while he played a key role, he didn’t formally hold the title of technical director.”
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Wazari is a fakey for sure, the internet is full of larpers. I remember someone randomly mentioning him, and it was not long after (hours) after which he responded with some story. Likely active with a sock

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Badger wrote:
15 May 2026, 13:14
Slahinki wrote:
15 May 2026, 10:48
Badger wrote:
15 May 2026, 10:31

So how do you explain his comments from back in the day which I posted, or the fact that he claimed the 2026 engine was “on schedule”?

I would love for this forum to have more insiders but I will trust a person’s track record over anonymous credentials any day.
Maybe Honda thought they were on schedule, only to find out that their schedule was way behind everybody else. Honda saying they are on schedule and their engine turning out to be quite bad are not mutually exclusive.

Edited a word.
It has crossed my mind but that level of corporate incompetence and self-delusion seems a bit unrealistic given Honda's immense experience, resources, and recent success in F1. I would also like to believe that an insider who claims to have decades of experience within Honda would be able to see through the corporate BS to give us a slightly more unfiltered perspective. Because how can we trust an "insider" who only gives vaguely positive information even when the project is in a state of complete disrepair behind the scenes? If we had taken Wazari at his word we would have believed that Honda was going to be competing for podiums in 2015, that they would be competitive with Mercedes from 2016 onwards, and that their engine in 2026 was on schedule. It's the complete opposite of what really happened over and over again.

Anyways, I don't want to pick on anyone but we must understand that this is the internet. Trust but verify. Verification has failed on this one many times.
Largely fair enough, but for the bolded part. Keep in mind that you are talking about the manufacturer that announced they would be leaving the sport and split the PU team appart sending the them off to the various corners of the larger Honda organization. And when the new CEO decided that they wouldn't be leaving after all, instead of getting the band back together, they started their PU team from scratch with inexperienced engineers that hadn't worked in F1 before. So yeah, Honda just might be incompetent.

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AM should talk to Arrivabene...

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Aston Martin: let's expect a first... change of pace for the AMR26 in Canada

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-as ... /10821548/
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